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Good Book on CW Era Bullets?

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Posted Feb 10, 2010, 09:45:43 am

As many of you know I am pretty good at identifying modern bullets many of our forum members dig.  But I would like to sharpen my skills on CW era dug bullets.  Can any of you recommend a good book that has lots of pictures and descriptions of CW bullets?  Much Appreciated.  Monty

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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Feb 10, 2010, 11:09:17 am

this one looks good Jim.




http://www.amazon.com/Handbook-Civi...ar-Bullets-Cartridges/dp/0939631946
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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 06:49:25 am

I second that  icon_thumright
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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 10:23:45 am

Thanks, I have received one other reference and I'll check it out.  My local book store don't have either one but Amazon might.  Thanks again! Monty

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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Feb 13, 2010, 07:42:19 am

The most prominent reference book for bullet collectors:

Civil War Projectiles II - Small Arms & Field Artillery by W. Reid Mckee and M.E Mason Jr. 1980.

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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Feb 13, 2010, 07:31:58 pm

I own and recommend both.
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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Feb 19, 2010, 04:05:53 am

Gentlemen,

A little assistance if you would please... I know this may fall into the category of post civil war, but I would like some confirmation on this .22 shell I had found. I believe it is a Phoenix Metallic Cartridge Co. copper coated shell produced between 1874-1891. I believe it is not a "Peters" cartridge because it has a roman-esque style "P" and not a smooth "P". Thank you for any help in advance.

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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Feb 19, 2010, 08:40:56 pm

Sorry, Remington-Peters, probably 1950s.  Monty

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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Feb 19, 2010, 09:33:42 pm

The most prominent reference book for bullet collectors:

Civil War Projectiles II - Small Arms & Field Artillery by W. Reid Mckee and M.E Mason Jr. 1980.


This is the book I've always used and is the one North South Trader uses to ID bullets in their price guide.
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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Feb 19, 2010, 09:49:45 pm

Monty,

Kindest Sir. I hate to continue to be a pain, but the closest possible date I can get for this cartridge would be of the most benefit. Using your advise, I found on the internet, the specified difference between the impressed "P" and the raised "P". Additionally, I was able to find a photo at an auction site that shows the headstamp from the 1950's for Peter's; and it was a smooth "P".

Because I am working an area that contains overlapping layers of history, ironically, my ability to properly date my site rests with the ability to date this cartridge very specifically. All I have on the subject is the internet. If you would please, help me in this endeavor. I will be eternally greatful.

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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Feb 21, 2010, 10:51:17 am

That's why I am looking for a book on early projectiles and bullets.  I did not see where it was a "raised"P in your first inquiry.  You need to post this inquiry on the "What Is It" forum and be very precise about the description. You should get several opinions. Does your book say anything about the Rem./Peters "Rocket" .22 shells?  They came in flat packets like Chicklet gum and I don't recall what they had on the headstamp, assuming it was a Rem/Peters product.  That's the only other ones I am familar with.  Sorry I couldn't be of more help. Monty

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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Feb 21, 2010, 11:12:44 am

I have ordered the CW Projectiles II from Amazon.  I got it for $38.95. one place wanted $123.00 for it!  That  is wild!  Thanks everyone.  Monty

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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Feb 21, 2010, 04:45:27 pm

I think you got it at a decent price.  $123.00 is insane.  I think you might be in for a surprise when you see all the different bullets and variants.
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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 03:13:15 pm

I pretty much knew how many varients there was, especially CSA.  They made bullets enywhere they could  with whatever equipment they could find.  I have hands on with a great many modern bullets and there is just as many varients now days as there was back then.  Monty

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Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Feb 24, 2010, 02:52:35 am

Tom Stelma has a good Bullet Identification Book on CD Rom...... you might check it out.

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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Mar 07, 2010, 08:38:35 pm

I have ordered the CW Projectiles II from Amazon.  I got it for $38.95. one place wanted $123.00 for it!  That  is wild!  Thanks everyone.  Monty
The $123.00 was most likely for a first edition issue. I think the book has many editions.
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Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Mar 08, 2010, 03:07:45 pm

Got my book a couple of days ago and was noticing several typos and misspelled words.  Looks like some home publishing perhaps?  But it contains more information than I am apt to ever need!  Thanks for the recommendations all.  Monty

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Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Mar 08, 2010, 07:51:46 pm

Monty
 I should have mentioned that some findings have come to light since McKee's & Mason's book was published. One I know for sure is # 159  on page 30. It is listed as a double end Whitworth. It was thought to be a Whitworth because of the length and caliber. It was later found to have been used  in a gun called a Vandenberg. these bullets were only dug in 2 or 3 locations. One in Tenn. and I believe another was in NC
  Here is a link for a bit more info if you are interested
 Some more info you might not need  laughing7
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