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Mankato, MN
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I've been lucky enough to get a few places to hunt around Charleston. Most are soggy bogs that have been logged, horse pastures, and other "great" places.
I take what I get.
I hunted a timbered bog this past weekend and wound up with one flat, slick button and some crap.
I looked at the pile on the table this morning and decided to look at it one more time and then toss it. I washed stuff off and was tossing it in the trash can.
I washed this piece off and thought I could see some letters or something so I thought I could tell what telephone pole it came off of. So I used a little cleaner on it.
Letters started to appear - "S" then "ER" and a "18" I hit the floor. I picked myself up and finished cleaning.
It ain't in the best shape, but it's a SLAVE TAG!!!!
Gotta be my best find of the year. They say compared to finding these 30 miles from Charleston, gold coins are easy.
It's ugly. But it's mine and I HAD to share.
Daryl - still shaking a bit
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Western Colorado
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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 08:17:54 am |
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Congrats Daryl,
Couldn't have happened to a more deserving guy.
Nominated it for the banner
Thom
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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 08:18:29 am |
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 And you have been spending $200 a day coming here  and all along the best finds were to be had over there  Super find Daryl  SS
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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 08:25:41 am |
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OK Congrats, now don't laugh, but you might want to consider getting that one restored, I have seen some miracles performed by some of those who do that, including slave badges!
Don
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"The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 08:29:47 am |
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There's the next banner, for sure.
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da book worm--researcher
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callahan,fl
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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 08:48:37 am |
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makes sense to me , you finding it there - they of course would send the slaves to work in the skeeter (disease) infested swamp bogs to do the hard labor harvesting trees and such there --
SERV
1826 is what I see.
servant
no. 1826 is my guess
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Virginia
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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 09:09:28 am |
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WOW!
And I dont say wow often...WOW!
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ALABAMA
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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 09:17:09 am |
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Congrats!!!!! I have many books on slave tags,yours is a match from what I can see. As I have lived in the area near Charleston I have done much research on these tags. Just in case I were to ever find one  Still searching for one of those  BANNER I have a book that list the tags buy the # and the owners name.As they were registered in many wills and family holdings.Will see if I can find the book. |
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North Carolina
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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 09:17:28 am |
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That is an awsome find! It pays to check out all the trash just in case! WTG
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niles ohio
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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 09:18:39 am |
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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 09:32:15 am |
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Very good find! HH!
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Seymour Johnson AFB, NC
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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 09:35:49 am |
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makes sense to me , you finding it there - they of course would send the slaves to work in the skeeter (disease) infested swamp bogs to do the hard labor harvesting trees and such there --
SERV
1826 is what I see.
servant
no. 1826 is my guess
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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 09:45:26 am |
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I never knew that there was such a thing as slave tags or buttons until i joined TN i think there was 1 or 2 i seen on here before what is the rarity of a slave tag and why are they so valuable other then historical value ? are there many to be found , learn something new on here everyday .Nice find  Good hunting Jim |
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bennington vermont
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Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 10:00:30 am |
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:hello Wow! congrats 2 u on a banner find, I'm glad you didnt throw it in the trash
vermonster
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California
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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 10:08:03 am |
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Awesome RARE find!!!High Dollar too if you get it restored!!
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M.X.T , Tesoro Tejon 4"& 2.5" dredge with a little luck!!
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all ways up for a hunt in the pines
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bayville nj
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Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 10:10:54 am |
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don is right . i seen some miracles on those things restored ,...... great find
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da book worm--researcher
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callahan,fl
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Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 10:21:09 am |
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servant
1826 (year) -- would be nice -- since it would date it age wize -- but wouldn't a number of some sort be needed to show who's slave it was ? -- since the "tag" was proof of ownership .
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Bradenton, Fl
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Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 10:29:26 am |
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Debby
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NC
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Reply To This Topic #19 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 10:46:32 am |
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Banner Bio  Good thing you checked those finds before tossing |
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S.E. TEXAS
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Reply To This Topic #20 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 10:53:05 am |
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A Very great find. There is a guy at treasure depot that restores finds and his work is tops. It would be worth getting restored.
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California
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Reply To This Topic #21 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 11:08:39 am |
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there is a good one at Americanrelichunters too |
M.X.T , Tesoro Tejon 4"& 2.5" dredge with a little luck!!
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Moonlight and Magnolias
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Reply To This Topic #22 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 11:36:35 am |
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OK Congrats, now don't laugh, but you might want to consider getting that one restored, I have seen some miracles performed by some of those who do that, including slave badges!
Don
Absolutely worth Every Single Penny for a restoration. KILLER find there!!!  And Banner nominated too! -Buckles |
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CANE FIELD BANDITS IRON BRIGADE MEMBER
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Moonlight and Magnolias
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Reply To This Topic #23 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 11:37:25 am |
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there is a good one at Americanrelichunters too That's my pick of the lot. You can see some of the work that Hallowed Ground Restoration does at americanrelichunters.com Cheers, Buckles |
Any relics, coins, or other items appearing in my finds posts were found on PRIVATE PROPERTY with total consent and permission from the owners of said property.
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Reply To This Topic #24 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 11:37:41 am |
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I vote BANNER!!! Way to go Daryl. EXCELLENT recovery. -MM- |
Oldest coin - 1700's Spanish silver piece of 8 reale
Oldest U.S. silver - 1833 Capped Bust Half Dime
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nc
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Reply To This Topic #25 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 11:45:08 am |
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nice Tag!
Not to bring up a bad picture in the mind, but I wonder just how these were attached to the person? It looks like that one was cut free from something.
HH
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IH - 1889,1892,1902,04,06,07,08,07,04
Buffalo - 1935
Wheats -?
Silver-1 charm
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da book worm--researcher
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callahan,fl
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Reply To This Topic #26 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 12:26:58 pm |
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leather collar
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Reply To This Topic #27 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 12:36:09 pm |
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Finally! Congratulations. I know you've been wanting one. Now it's my turn! lol I voted. |
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West Virginia
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Reply To This Topic #29 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 12:39:07 pm |
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GREAT find! I vote banner.
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Orlando
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Reply To This Topic #30 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 12:52:58 pm |
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Cool... wtg that would be a neat find for sure a real piece of history... |
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Reply To This Topic #31 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 01:30:26 pm |
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If you do various googles of Slave Tags, you will see they do come in various shapes. Here is one auction site showing different shapes. http://historical.ha.com/common/newsletter.php?id=1651Don |
"The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
The value will increase with judicious cleaning."
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Western New York
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Reply To This Topic #32 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 01:43:35 pm |
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Great find!!! Congratulations!!!
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Northwest Missouri
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Reply To This Topic #33 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 01:52:49 pm |
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Congrats Daryl I would love to find one of those myself, maybe someday... HH Charlie |
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Columbus Ohio
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Reply To This Topic #34 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 01:54:24 pm |
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Looks like an authentic 1826 slave tag to me. Congratulations! Shame some of it is missing, and that may impact the ability to really "restore" it as we don't know what information was lost on the missing part. A great find and a great piece of American history. |
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Norway
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Reply To This Topic #35 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 01:57:49 pm |
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I vote for banner. Its a great find. |
Det vi vet er så uendelig lite mot det som har hendt. Arkeologen er som den som går langs en strand og finner småtterier, skyllet i land fra et forsvunnet skib. Men selve skibet som gikk i dypet med menneskene får han aldri se.
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Let's go dig some history!
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TEXAS
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Reply To This Topic #36 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 01:57:49 pm |
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Wow, what a killer find!! If I have said it once, I have said it a million times....clean everything and double check before pitching it out!!!! I say banner!
HH
Baggins
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Reply To This Topic #37 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 02:13:55 pm |
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Nice one!
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Dirtyville
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Reply To This Topic #38 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 02:22:46 pm |
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Now that would be a shocker!
If it's all there you're a lucky dog because no question it can be restored to look very good.
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Looking for that ONE find.
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South Central Kansas
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Reply To This Topic #39 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 02:53:39 pm |
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My hat is off to you my friend. Hope you get it restored. Get back out there and find more goodies.
Burdie
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Mankato, MN
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Reply To This Topic #40 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 03:13:54 pm |
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Thanks for all the nice comments. I'm humbled. It is just one of those finds that shakes you up and then you think that you almost threw it away. WOW.
I do plan to have it restored if possible. Since it is an early tag, it is supposed to be a "square" tag and not the "diamond" shaped one with the hole in the top corner. It should also be a bit smaller than the CW era Charleston tags.
I talked with a friend of mine in Charleston about the tag and he said that it will have a mark on it - "lafarge" - or something like that and that all the tags of this period were square/rectangular. He also said that at the time these tags were used - 1826 - it was pretty common for them to be "defaced.". They would be bent, cut, nailed, etc. The slaves would risk punishment for losing a tag in order to get the satisfaction of "beating it up." Just what they were doing at this point in the history of slavery.
So thanks for looking and sharing in the find. It is something I surely wasn't expecting.
Daryl
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Chester County, Pennsylvania
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Reply To This Topic #41 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 03:20:52 pm |
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WOW WTG Bio that is awesome!! Congrats!!  |
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Summerfield Fla.
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Reply To This Topic #42 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 03:26:36 pm |
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OK Congrats, now don't laugh, but you might want to consider getting that one restored, I have seen some miracles performed by some of those who do that, including slave badges!
Don
I agree with Don 100% you would be even more shocked when you see what can be done with the tag to restore it Great find for sure  |
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Reply To This Topic #43 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 03:26:54 pm |
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Now that's a real dream find for sure. Great find!  |
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Cape Cod
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Reply To This Topic #44 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 03:30:45 pm |
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Nice job.
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Reply To This Topic #45 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 03:37:50 pm |
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check into getting it restored, so far ive not found a Lafar 1826, and even with the tear in it it would be worth insuring from reading about slave tags, they were only made in charleston sc, and the makers of the tags worked for the auction house by contract, here is a pic of a 1821 tag made by, John J. Lafar one of 8 tag/badge maker, won the contract for making badges for 24 years. some history, on slave tag/badges Lot 2486: LARGEST MOST COMPLETE COLLECTION OF GENUINE CHARLESTON SLAVE HIRE BADGES EVER OFFERED. the pics wouldnt open ,hit the expand button to read history on collection http://www.artfact.com/auction-lot/...ion-of-genuine-charl-1-c-bzmyglmbwzsite i found pic http://charlestonrelics.com/shop/in...fo&cPath=14&products_id=170large pic i hope http://charlestonrelics.com/shop/in...p?main_page=popup_image&pID=170congrats on banner |
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MARYLAND
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Reply To This Topic #46 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 03:44:38 pm |
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I thought you were talking about all this snow......Great dig Daryl |
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R.I.
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Reply To This Topic #47 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 04:06:20 pm |
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atta boy, congrats on that one. whoda thunk it... great find... keep them comeing...
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Texas, Old River Winfree
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Reply To This Topic #48 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 04:33:31 pm |
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Congrats on that nice find. I have one of them on my to do list.....
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Chile Head, FLYERS FAN
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Sunbury, PA
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Reply To This Topic #50 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 05:18:34 pm |
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Outstanding find and congrats on making the banner!!
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Alabama
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Reply To This Topic #51 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 05:19:21 pm |
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Congrats on banner Daryl. That's a dream find. |
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NJ
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Reply To This Topic #53 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 05:27:24 pm |
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Holey Moley, congrats on a totally dream find..and congrats on banner..that is truley awesome.. big time congrats to ya.. I would still be bouncing all over the place.. wow wow and more wow.. |
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Dirtyville
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Reply To This Topic #54 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 05:40:08 pm |
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If mine the most I'd do is have it straightened. I'm not a big fan of adding material to most relics.
Have you made the banner before?
(Just seen the updated pictures. I'd be leaving that as is)
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My treasure lies in Heaven, not under my feet.
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Mandalay, Arkansas
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Reply To This Topic #55 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 05:42:17 pm |
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WTG!
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Roger (YardDigger)
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Mankato, MN
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Reply To This Topic #56 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 05:44:54 pm |
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I don't think I would want them to add anything either. I have seen some repairs where they've straightened and filled in the holes and cracks. It looks good and makes it much more stable and can withstand handling which is important to me as all my artifacts wind up in the classroom.
First time on the banner. Didn't make it even when I found 2 US gold coins in the same hole. Oh well. I MADE IT NOW!!!
Daryl
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Dirtyville
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Reply To This Topic #57 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 05:48:04 pm |
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I don't think I would want them to add anything either. I have seen some repairs where they've straightened and filled in the holes and cracks. It looks good and makes it much more stable and can withstand handling which is important to me as all my artifacts wind up in the classroom.
First time on the banner. Didn't make it even when I found 2 US gold coins in the same hole. Oh well. I MADE IT NOW!!!
Daryl
I just seen your latest pics. I'd be happy with that! It ain't gonna be much better unless it comes back half modern. I guess one banner find is better than nothing. ...and when you find 2 gold coins, does it really matter?  |
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Mankato, MN
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Reply To This Topic #58 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 05:51:00 pm |
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I think you are right. I may just have it flattened and mount it between 2 pieces of plexiglass. Yeah, I'll take two US gold over a banner post. Daryl |
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Let's go dig some history!
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TEXAS
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Reply To This Topic #59 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 05:54:36 pm |
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Congrats on the banner!
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SoCal
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Reply To This Topic #60 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 05:54:59 pm |
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SO THAT'S WHERE MY COLLAR FELL OFF! Thanks for finding my old collar tag. Please return it. It has sentimental value (you know, my old master and all).  Best-Mike |
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Reply To This Topic #61 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 05:55:17 pm |
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I think you are right. I may just have it flattened and mount it between 2 pieces of plexiglass. Yeah, I'll take two US gold over a banner post. Daryl My early owner ID'ed, mason ring was kind of the same deal. It's all there, but broken, and for a while I thought it would be better looking like a ring. But now I am very content as is, and being flat it's easier to display with my other finds. It is what it is and not like I'm going to wear it so who cares. Maybe some day I'll consider getting it fixed but no hurry. |
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Northern Indiana
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Reply To This Topic #62 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 05:56:27 pm |
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Yes, a 'grabber' for sure! This is one item on my to find list in this lifetime! Wow! |
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Reply To This Topic #63 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 06:01:57 pm |
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Mankato, MN
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Reply To This Topic #64 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 06:08:11 pm |
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Hi Gollum,
I thought somebody might recognize it. I always make it a habit to return items I find to their owner. No problem.
Just send me your address and a enough to cover the postage and handling (you know the cost associated with the finding of this small piece of rare copper in the middle of nowhere that's been in the ground for about 175 years or so and 1300 miles away from home). Let's see, that would be 5 detectors purchased, about 4000 hours of ground sweeping time, 1258 AA batteries, 9125 miles of travel, and 6 diet cokes. Ah, $14,000.00 should cover that. So the total Handling and Postage would be $14,000.34.
Hope you enjoy getting it back.
Daryl
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Reply To This Topic #66 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 06:20:36 pm |
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Hi Gollum,
I thought somebody might recognize it. I always make it a habit to return items I find to their owner. No problem.
Just send me your address and a enough to cover the postage and handling (you know the cost associated with the finding of this small piece of rare copper in the middle of nowhere that's been in the ground for about 175 years or so and 1300 miles away from home). Let's see, that would be 5 detectors purchased, about 4000 hours of ground sweeping time, 1258 AA batteries, 9125 miles of travel, and 6 diet cokes. Ah, $14,000.00 should cover that. So the total Handling and Postage would be $14,000.34.
Hope you enjoy getting it back.
Daryl
Hey Come ON! It only cost two cents to make! HAHAHA Congratulations! Amazing Find! Best-Mike |
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Reply To This Topic #67 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 09:00:51 pm |
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Congratulations Daryl A great find and well deserving of the Banner Mike |
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Reply To This Topic #68 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 09:25:48 pm |
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Ya done good . I think I would have it framed as is .
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Reply To This Topic #70 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 09:51:43 pm |
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Thanks all. I think I'm going to do the Plexiglass sandwich thing.
Daryl
Is that on rye or whole wheat? |
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Reply To This Topic #72 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 09:58:23 pm |
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Copper goes better on whole wheat wouldn't you agree?
Daryl
Sure would and silver on rye ain't bad either! |
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Alabama
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Reply To This Topic #74 Posted Feb 11, 2010, 10:20:40 pm |
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He also said that at the time these tags were used - 1826 - it was pretty common for them to be "defaced.". They would be bent, cut, nailed, etc. The slaves would risk punishment for losing a tag in order to get the satisfaction of "beating it up." Just what they were doing at this point in the history of slavery.
Absolutely awesome treasure you have found - and I do mean treasure. It is mangled and defaced somewhat, however, if what your source is telling you is the case here, it would seem to me that it would only add to the value of this historical artifact. (jmo) It is exciting to read about this type of find seeing that I am a total newbie to this fascinating hobby of metal detecting. |
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Reply To This Topic #75 Posted Feb 12, 2010, 12:33:36 am |
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 Fantastic find, Congrats on making the Banner HH Boo
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Reply To This Topic #76 Posted Feb 12, 2010, 01:06:06 am |
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I don't think I would want them to add anything either. I have seen some repairs where they've straightened and filled in the holes and cracks. It looks good and makes it much more stable and can withstand handling which is important to me as all my artifacts wind up in the classroom.
First time on the banner. Didn't make it even when I found 2 US gold coins in the same hole. Oh well. I MADE IT NOW!!!
Daryl
Congratulations Daryl on making the Banner I thought it was a cert for it  I wouldn't do anything to it you have a part of your Countries History there, it should be left as it was found  The Bronze age Gold Cup(ringle mere cup) was left exactally as it was found....crushed, the BM just had a replica made of how it looked, and displayed them both together. Don't no wether this is something for you to consider SS |
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Reply To This Topic #77 Posted Feb 12, 2010, 03:49:58 am |
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It may very well be possible to track down where this badge originated in terms of who owned that property at that time and then dig further (no pun intended) and see who is listed on his property rolls as slaves at the time. THey kept a meticulous record of them believe it or not. Though it may be a darker time in our history it is no doubt still fascinating and this is, no doubt, the find of a lifetime.. It may take long hours of research but I fully believe you can match a soul or at least a family to this badge. Please keep us all informed! |
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Reply To This Topic #78 Posted Feb 12, 2010, 03:59:30 am |
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SWEEEEET find, congrats!!! |
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shhh...the person who posted above me just farted but wont see this since you scrolled down.
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Reply To This Topic #79 Posted Feb 12, 2010, 04:37:18 am |
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So the total Handling and Postage would be $14,000.34. Thats quite a bargain. Postage stamps are .41 so you are saving a whopping .07! Seriously though... That is a sweet chunk of history you have there. I can only dream of finding one so I will detect vicariously through you. |
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Reply To This Topic #81 Posted Feb 12, 2010, 06:24:34 am |
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How much of the tag is missing? Looks like part of the top is gone. Just a thought that it was bent up and thrown away? Either way congrats on the Banner find. |
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Reply To This Topic #82 Posted Feb 12, 2010, 06:29:31 am |
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Yep. Common practice back them from what I understand. The top should say "Charleston." That is the ONLY place they were ever made. So the slave may have bent and torn off the top and then proceeded to deface the rest of the tag. They didn't like them - Duh - and many times would do this if they got the chance.
Daryl
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Aiken, SC
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Reply To This Topic #83 Posted Feb 12, 2010, 10:13:11 am |
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Wow.....an awesome piece of history and a killer find! Big congats on your banner! HH, Moon |
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Reply To This Topic #84 Posted Feb 12, 2010, 11:58:46 am |
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It appears you can read "No." and thus the number of the tag is defaced, probably intentionally. To me, that makes it even more interesting historically. "I am not a number!"
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Reply To This Topic #85 Posted Feb 12, 2010, 12:14:38 pm |
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If this in fact is a original I would say it is a very rare type have dealt with these a bit again I am no expert but have never seen one that shape with #'s and letters in that arrangement. another link http://www.wakeforestcoins.com/slave%20badges/slave%20badges.htm |
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Reply To This Topic #86 Posted Feb 12, 2010, 01:17:54 pm |
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It appears you can read "No." and thus the number of the tag is defaced, probably intentionally. To me, that makes it even more interesting historically. "I am not a number!"
I know very little about slave tags but have a hard time believing a slave would deface his tag. They were slaves and I don't think they'd dare ruin anything, and especially that. Now if it was a "FREE" tag, then maybe there would be a case for it. But thinking a little more, probably not, that thing was their get out of jail card! |
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Reply To This Topic #87 Posted Feb 12, 2010, 01:23:12 pm |
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Thats a super great find, WTG |
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yelm wa.
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Reply To This Topic #88 Posted Feb 12, 2010, 01:52:08 pm |
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all i can say is banner banner |
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Reply To This Topic #89 Posted Feb 12, 2010, 01:59:56 pm |
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Again. Congratulations Doc. That's a needle in a very large hay stack. Please post that when you get it done I'd love to see it displayed. Send a pic to Steve at www.nstcivilwar.com I'm sure he will publish it. Congrats again friend. |
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Reply To This Topic #90 Posted Feb 12, 2010, 05:38:07 pm |
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WOW! I have hunted a few places that I thought about finding one of those. But it was always just a thought. You made it happen! Big congrats! |
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Reply To This Topic #92 Posted Feb 12, 2010, 06:54:16 pm |
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God bless our veterans! Thank you for your sacrifices!  |
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Reply To This Topic #93 Posted Feb 12, 2010, 07:21:41 pm |
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Big Congrats Bio. Find of a lifetime. The equivalent of that find for me in mass would be a tree coin. Banner find for sure. You deserve it. I am not sure if I would restore it or keep it as found.  All the best. |
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Reply To This Topic #94 Posted Feb 12, 2010, 08:05:52 pm |
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Awesome find. Congrats
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URBAN DISCOVERY !
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Reply To This Topic #95 Posted Feb 12, 2010, 08:28:34 pm |
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I know very little about slave tags but have a hard time believing a slave would deface his tag. They were slaves and I don't think they'd dare ruin anything, and especially that.
Now if it was a "FREE" tag, then maybe there would be a case for it. But thinking a little more, probably not, that thing was their get out of jail card!
Slave tags were issued every year for the purpose of keeping track of work slaves did outside of a plantation... They were good for only 1 year... I would have to believe that after the Civil War, they may have been seen as a piece of bad memory and beat and destroyed Obviosly considering where they are found, they were thrown away... I dug 2 when I was stationed in Charleston SC in the Navy back in the early 90's sold them both and now don't have them... both were found downtown area of Charleston... |
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Reply To This Topic #96 Posted Feb 12, 2010, 08:45:39 pm |
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Oh you turkey you made the banner!
Wooo-hooo!
Congrats Doc
Mike and Maggie
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Reply To This Topic #97 Posted Feb 12, 2010, 09:31:36 pm |
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Sweeeeeeeeeet! Congrats Daryl! Breezie |
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Reply To This Topic #98 Posted Feb 13, 2010, 12:28:04 am |
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Wow, Congrats on the find!
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Reply To This Topic #99 Posted Feb 13, 2010, 12:55:59 am |
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If I had found this, I would not have known what it was....great find.
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