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Muff flintlock Pocket Pistol - Updated Photos

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Posted Feb 21, 2010, 04:40:03 pm

Last month I had the opportunity to explore a new piece of property.  The area is rich in history with Indian battles and a Revolutionary War skirmish.  The property owner told me that there was a supposed to be a church on the site at one time and an old colonial road passes through the property.  My first visit resulted in several buckles, a copper button, and a large keyhole cover.  I was anxious to return, as I knew this area was hiding some treasures.

Saturday I was able to get out there for about 2 1/2 hours.  I focused my energy in the area the old church sat.  Due to the amount of iron, I stayed in discrimination mode and took my time.  The first find was a silver spoon less the handle.

When I found the pistol, it was about four inches down under broken pieces of brick.  At first I thought it was an old toy until I started cleaning it off.  I was rather surprised as to the condition of the gun and am still amazed the screws are still attached that held the frame to the handle.  Our friends at "What Is It" have helped me to narrow it down to a late 1700's Muff Pocket Pistol.  On one side it reads "New York"  the opposite plate reads "Squire & Co."  The bottom side of the barrel contains two makers marks that I will post later.  Thanks for looking.
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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Feb 21, 2010, 04:44:25 pm

 headbang  wav headbang icon_thumright Sweet Gun  icon_thumleft  headbang  wav    headbang
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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Feb 21, 2010, 04:45:26 pm

Hi burlington, that pistol is superb WTG icon_thumleft. Hurry up and get back there Grin.

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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Feb 21, 2010, 04:46:58 pm

Awesome find.
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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Feb 21, 2010, 04:58:52 pm

that is way cool, thank you for sharing.

them that dive will be the lucky ones !!
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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Feb 21, 2010, 05:28:28 pm

That is a super find...the condition is amazing!

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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Feb 21, 2010, 05:51:51 pm

Squire & Co could be an importer. The makers marks might be the key to the manufacturer.
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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Feb 21, 2010, 06:08:54 pm

      Killer find!!  icon_thumright  You have had some amazing finds and this is no exception!! Keep up the good work!!
   
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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Feb 21, 2010, 06:13:38 pm

I would start by Googling "Squire and Co - gunworks"
That may be all it takes.

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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Feb 21, 2010, 07:39:57 pm

That is a dreamfind. I hope i find something like this sometime.  thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Feb 21, 2010, 07:48:22 pm

Awesome find!  Similar, but not the same obviously, as this one:
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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Feb 21, 2010, 07:54:47 pm

Oh--that muff pistol.  Grin icon_thumleft

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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Feb 21, 2010, 07:57:12 pm

Thanks for all the replies.  That image looks just like this gun.  Still trying to find information on the "Squire & Co." stamped on side.  Tomorrow hope to have better photos showing the makers mark on the bottom of barrell.
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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Feb 21, 2010, 08:00:16 pm

Sweet find  congrats   headbang

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Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Feb 21, 2010, 11:00:38 pm

 hello2 hello2

Great find !!!!!!
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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Feb 21, 2010, 11:52:53 pm

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Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 01:44:59 am

fabulous display piece!!

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Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 02:40:46 am

Sweet fine............Thanks

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Reply To This Topic #19 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 03:05:44 am

Fantastic piece of history there. Congrats!  thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #20 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 03:07:07 am

that thing is awesome!! i would make a handle for that baby. congrats. willy
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Reply To This Topic #21 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 06:05:18 am

This is outstanding!  I have never found a pistol.  It is definitely on my list to find.  But finding one from the 1700's just blows my mind.  Great job.

Always dig deeper....
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Reply To This Topic #22 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 06:08:00 am


Awesome find.

Frickin' banner!!!

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Reply To This Topic #23 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 06:36:50 am

Great Looking Find.

I Have my Nephew checking his Favorite
hunting site for Info on Squire and Co,
although It may be like Sears
just the name of the shop that sold it.

Can you get some Better Pics.
"Square" and Without the Ruler in them ?
Maybe at a  little distance
with alot of empty backround around it,
So I Can Crop it Square ?

Getting alot of Banner Nominations
But Can't do anything with your
rectangular shaped pics.

Here is the site
If you wanna sign up & Try & Add Pics

http://www.huntingpa.com/forums/ubb...php?ubb=showflat&Number=1641127

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Reply To This Topic #24 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 07:14:09 am

Great find!  WTG! thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup

Reply To This Topic #25 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 10:19:53 am

Great Looking Find.

I Have my Nephew checking his Favorite
hunting site for Info on Squire and Co,
although It may be like Sears
just the name of the shop that sold it.

Can you get some Better Pics.
"Square" and Without the Ruler in them ?
Maybe at a  little distance
with alot of empty backround around it,
So I Can Crop it Square ?

Getting alot of Banner Nominations
But Can't do anything with your
rectangular shaped pics.

Here is the site
If you wanna sign up & Try & Add Pics

http://www.huntingpa.com/forums/ubb...php?ubb=showflat&Number=1641127
I posted a link in the whatsits thread with a refrence to a Joseph Squire a Colonial Gunsmith, don't know if that might help his search Smiley
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=&f=false
 

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Reply To This Topic #26 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 11:35:37 am

Very Nice!  icon_pirat

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Reply To This Topic #27 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 12:22:51 pm

That is an awesome find. I hope you find many more like it.

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Reply To This Topic #28 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 02:29:21 pm

 hello2 hello2 I like it  headbang
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Reply To This Topic #29 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 02:52:45 pm

Nice find!!  icon_thumright

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Reply To This Topic #30 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 05:46:49 pm

SWEEEET headbang headbang
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Reply To This Topic #31 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 06:13:58 pm

Thanks for all the great replies and votes.  I truly thought I had found a toy when I recovered this from its earthly den.  Attached are some updated photos that show the makers mark on the underside of the barrel.  Silver Searcher, I have looked at the link you provided and agree that it may be a possible lead.  I plan on posting this on some gun forums to see if I can dig deeper.  Some day I would like to have this gun restored and a handle made for it.  It is sure to be a great display piece.  Made it back out to the same site today with some friends and recovered a couple of buttons and large cents.  Those are for another post on another day.  Happy hunting to all.
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Reply To This Topic #32 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 06:15:50 pm

Thats just AWESOME!!!!  Great find!! notworthy
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Reply To This Topic #33 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 06:56:31 pm

What a great find!

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Reply To This Topic #34 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 07:17:02 pm

Can you say incredible? That blows my socks off! headbang

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Reply To This Topic #35 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 08:12:18 pm

That's a really an awesome find. Not many of them posted up either. icon_thumright
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Reply To This Topic #36 Posted Feb 22, 2010, 09:00:02 pm

  Some day I would like to have this gun restored and a handle made for it.  It is sure to be a great display piece.  Made it back out to the same site today with some friends and recovered a couple of buttons and large cents.  Those are for another post on another day.  Happy hunting to all.
An absolutely neat find, I wish you all the luck in finding out info on it.  Please share it with us if you restore this fantastic early firearm.
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Reply To This Topic #37 Posted Feb 23, 2010, 01:47:05 am

What an Amazing Find !  Shocked  WTG

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Reply To This Topic #38 Posted Feb 23, 2010, 04:15:42 am

Extremely nice, understatement for sure!

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Reply To This Topic #39 Posted Feb 23, 2010, 12:17:16 pm

 headbang Banner all the way  headbang

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Reply To This Topic #40 Posted Feb 23, 2010, 12:46:40 pm

Very impressive, bet you were excited!

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Reply To This Topic #41 Posted Feb 23, 2010, 01:05:00 pm

That's a sweet find burlington and in great condition  hello2

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Reply To This Topic #42 Posted Feb 23, 2010, 01:30:28 pm

Banner Find For sure! icon_thumleft icon_thumright Been seeing it for awhile now maybe it will find it's place soon. On the banner! headbang Thanks for sharing a cool find with us indeed! thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #43 Posted Feb 23, 2010, 01:36:00 pm

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I'd say Definately Birmingham
 
http://www.dave-cushman.net/shot/proofmarks.html


https://store.bluebookinc.com/Info/PDF/Firearm/Proofmarks.pdf
 see : 2248 PROOF MARKS: BRITISH PROOF MARKS - ENGLAND, cont.
no idea how to tell what year

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Reply To This Topic #44 Posted Feb 23, 2010, 01:54:43 pm

Woo Hoo!

Congrats on the Banner.

Now for a positive I.D.  read2
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Reply To This Topic #45 Posted Feb 23, 2010, 02:14:51 pm

CONGRATS on making the BANNER train up top.  headbang hello2 occasion18 occasion14 blob10 wav thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #46 Posted Feb 23, 2010, 02:15:34 pm

 Fantastic piece  Shocked Congrats  headbang  headbang

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Reply To This Topic #47 Posted Feb 23, 2010, 02:36:50 pm

Very Nice.......Congrat's on the banner  thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #48 Posted Feb 23, 2010, 02:38:48 pm

That is an awesome find. Full of history, if only it could speak !!!! It will look real nice in a display case.

Congrats on the Banner !!!!

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Reply To This Topic #49 Posted Feb 23, 2010, 02:52:05 pm

Very nice I like it very much.  way to go icon_thumleft

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Reply To This Topic #50 Posted Feb 23, 2010, 03:54:06 pm

Excellent find, congrats.
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Reply To This Topic #51 Posted Feb 23, 2010, 04:03:59 pm

Awesome find!  Similar, but not the same obviously, as this one:
The picture you found is very close. Do you have the link Imnengr?
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Reply To This Topic #52 Posted Feb 23, 2010, 04:07:25 pm

Awesome find!  Similar, but not the same obviously, as this one:
The picture you found is very close. Do you have the link Imnengr?
[ ERROR: SPECIFIED ATTACHMENT MISSING ] [ ERROR: SPECIFIED ATTACHMENT MISSING ]

you'll see many here

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Reply To This Topic #53 Posted Feb 23, 2010, 08:04:33 pm

 notworthy  notworthy Well it is now official you made banner!! congrats buddy. I am still on for Thursday if the warden gives the go ahead. I already cleared it with my drill seargent.  hello2 
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Reply To This Topic #54 Posted Feb 23, 2010, 08:33:26 pm


I'd say Definately Birmingham
 
http://www.dave-cushman.net/shot/proofmarks.html


https://store.bluebookinc.com/Info/PDF/Firearm/Proofmarks.pdf
 see : 2248 PROOF MARKS: BRITISH PROOF MARKS - ENGLAND, cont.
no idea how to tell what year
Good links. http://www.gunproof.com/
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Reply To This Topic #55 Posted Feb 24, 2010, 10:11:46 am

Choice. Congrates on the Banner, well deserved!
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Reply To This Topic #56 Posted Feb 24, 2010, 10:22:20 am

great find ,nothing like an old gun to get you going..well done

time and tide waits for no man...or woman !!!
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Western PA
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War Of 1812 Artillery Plate
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Reply To This Topic #57 Posted Feb 24, 2010, 03:56:08 pm

That is the coolist pistol I have ever seen dug!

Seek and Ye shall find, (not necessarily what You were looking for)
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SW Michigan
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Reply To This Topic #58 Posted Feb 24, 2010, 04:07:13 pm

Congrats on unearthing such an enviable relic!. hello2 headbang  Good luck on future hunts there.  WTG on the Banner. thumbsup

Keep digging!

The bicycle is a curious vehicle.  Its passenger is its engine.
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Chicago Area
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Reply To This Topic #59 Posted Feb 24, 2010, 04:18:56 pm

Awesome find!  Similar, but not the same obviously, as this one:
The picture you found is very close. Do you have the link Imnengr?
[ ERROR: SPECIFIED ATTACHMENT MISSING ] [ ERROR: SPECIFIED ATTACHMENT MISSING ]
 Sorry, I didn't keep the link, but it was not hard to find it on Google.  Congrats on banner!  
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South Florida
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Reply To This Topic #60 Posted Feb 24, 2010, 08:04:31 pm

Awesome find!  Similar, but not the same obviously, as this one:
The picture you found is very close. Do you have the link Imnengr?

 Sorry, I didn't keep the link, but it was not hard to find it on Google.  Congrats on banner!  
I searched but couldnt find it. Chances are with a very similar engraving its the same manufacturer and can make the ID. It may be in your history.
presidential campaign items, 1860 JOHN BELL-EDWARD EVERETT tin type pic token, 1888 Benjamin Harrison pin. 1876 CENTENNIAL REVOLUTIONARY WAR MEDAL WITH BARON VON STEUBEN AND GENERAL GEORGE WASHINGTON. CW RELICS 1864 Union store card,3 I,1 R, eagle buttons

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ILL
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Reply To This Topic #61 Posted Feb 24, 2010, 09:00:30 pm

wow what a find!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  MR TUFF

oldest dug 1831 William IIII. 1844 1/6 Skilling. 1834,51,84-86,91,92,93,94s,97-06,08-11,13 Dimes. 1854,56,76s,94,99,1902,06,09d,11,15s Qtrs. 1864 2cent. 79,83cc Morgan. 1867,68,82,87,88,90,91,93,95,97,98,1900,02,04-09,11,12d Nickles. 1848,56,59,61,64-67-69,73-75,81-85,87-09 Cent.
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Colorado
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Flintlock Pocket Pistol
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Reply To This Topic #62 Posted Feb 25, 2010, 06:54:25 am

I would like to thank everyone that has responded and voted on my find.  The signifcance of this find has not sunk in as of yet.  My hunting time is sure to come to a halt, as I am about to start a new position after a few months of unemployment.  Again, thanks for all the responses and good luck.

Burlington
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metro detroit
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Reply To This Topic #63 Posted Feb 25, 2010, 07:11:56 am

WOW !!!    that is A prize !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Not in Dirtyville
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Reply To This Topic #64 Posted Feb 25, 2010, 03:44:14 pm

One sweet find...congrats icon_thumright
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Northern, Michigan

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Reply To This Topic #65 Posted Feb 25, 2010, 04:27:07 pm

That Muff is a once in a lifetime find!
WOW!
Badger

"Everything is an anomaly" Michigan Badger
**Bring History Back to Life**

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Reply To This Topic #66 Posted Feb 25, 2010, 05:28:59 pm

    Great piece of history......nice find!!!

Sometimes you need to look back ........to a time that made you laugh and smile!  Memories of all the great times..... will always be there!!
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new jersey/pa/bucks county
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1793 Chain Cent - 1520 Polish Hammered Silver Coin
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Reply To This Topic #67 Posted Feb 27, 2010, 03:25:41 am

looks like its been out of the ground awhile
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Shelbyville or any yard where the owner will let me detect!
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Banner Stone
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Reply To This Topic #68 Posted Feb 27, 2010, 07:00:11 am

congrats on an awesome discovery and on the banner !!!!

ALLEN
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Reply To This Topic #69 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 03:34:46 pm

Ecellent find!
Tell me, how do you stablize an item like that so it does not flake away?
I have a five pound ball that I found while arrowhead hunting and it has dried out and flaking away.

Thanks!
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South Florida
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Reply To This Topic #70 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 05:22:45 pm

Ecellent find!
Tell me, how do you stablize an item like that so it does not flake away?
I have a five pound ball that I found while arrowhead hunting and it has dried out and flaking away.

Thanks!
I think electrolysis will stabilize iron.
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Reply To This Topic #71 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 05:44:27 pm

I'm betting the frame & barrel are brass which would explain why it's in such good condition. The hammer & trigger guard are steel and have rusted badly. I'm also betting it was made by the same company as the London pistol shown. There were no NY gun makers that I know of in the 1700s and alot were imported from England and had the importers name stamped into them rather than the maker.

Live Free or Die
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North Carolina
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Reply To This Topic #72 Posted Mar 07, 2010, 07:19:59 pm

Congrats on making the Banner!  You sure know how to research the great spots!  Can't wait to see it next month.
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Michigan
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Reply To This Topic #73 Posted Mar 11, 2010, 01:49:31 pm

Outstanding pistol!  The research afterward is as much fun (for you and us) as the retrieval was for you.  I would bet same Mfr., wonder how long Squire & Co. were in business?
LOOT, PLUNDER, PILLAGE...THE SCOURGE OF THE DIRT!

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Reply To This Topic #74 Posted Mar 11, 2010, 02:04:06 pm

Outstanding Find.  I bet you were pretty happy when you realized that you had a real pocket flintlock pistol! thumbsup Wink

I dug a gun too, but mine was made from cheap 'white' metal called aluminum Grin Grin

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Reply To This Topic #75 Posted Mar 22, 2010, 11:10:17 am

I would get it preserved and professionally cleaned as soon as possible so the weaker metals do not rust away.  The longer you wait the worse for wear the rusted areas will become.  Don't do electrolysis on it, because you may end up with holes where the rust has eaten through the rough spots.  Give it to someone who knows what they're doing and can be trusted with the object.  Great work!  If you find another one and don't want it, send it to my address.
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Lenoir City, TN
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Reply To This Topic #76 Posted Mar 22, 2010, 12:03:16 pm

Great find, can you tell if it is still loaded?
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Reply To This Topic #77 Posted Dec 02, 2010, 12:57:48 am

This one is very awesome. May be its from 300 years age.

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Reply To This Topic #78 Posted Dec 02, 2010, 04:56:04 am

1liquigirl has it right. Have it professionally restored. You might send pic`s to the NRA museum. they will probably be able to help you ID it.
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Reply To This Topic #79 Posted Jan 29, 2011, 09:48:31 am

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jeffk  coffee2
..................if it were mine i would definately restore it and make a new pistol-grip to like it was. Grin
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Out Diggin Silver
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Reply To This Topic #80 Posted Jan 29, 2011, 10:10:49 am

Great save,now we all can enjoy it. hello2
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Upper Bucks County,PA
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Reply To This Topic #81 Posted Jan 29, 2011, 10:32:50 am

Great find!   icon_thumright

Dig  For Fun....Dig For Profit
Metal Detecting Is The Greatest Hobby In The World!!!    Can You Dig It!
Dig 'em!

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Federal Way, WA
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Reply To This Topic #82 Posted Jan 31, 2011, 07:27:45 pm

Yeah, that is a nice one. Great job!
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southeast tennessee
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Reply To This Topic #83 Posted Jan 31, 2011, 10:40:48 pm

SWEET!!!! headbang headbang headbang
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Anchorage AK
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Reply To This Topic #84 Posted Jan 31, 2011, 11:24:37 pm

awesome find, definately needs professional preservation
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