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Jewelery Cache Found !! UPDATE - THERE WAS MORE !!

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Posted Mar 06, 2010, 02:58:39 pm

I've been working on researching new places to hunt.  This is a daunting task, as time and time again I've spent time at the library, online, etc., researching an interesting old site, only to get there and find that it had effectively been cleaned out.  When I bring these places up to the old timers at our club meetings afterward, they jovially state "That place, oh yeah, we cleaned that out 20 years ago, it was great!".   Virgin territory around here, aside from a park scrape or lot demo, is a rarity indeed.  

This round of research led to abundant new (to me) information, as well as an old map showing some very interesting areas to detect.  With map in hand, and permission to hunt these new sites, I called my friend Mark (aka BeachBumm) to hunt and off we went for the day to investigate them.  The first spot we hit was almost void of targets, a few gratis clad coins and the usual trash, but it had obviously been hunted before.  The second spot we hit was horribly grown over, it was difficult just to move around, let alone swing your coil, but it did yield a few wheatbacks, so we figured it had potential and might be worth another visit after we run out of areas to hunt at this location.  The third spot started off odd.  We were told to look for an old picnic area next to a salix tree.  We found the tree, but it was very small , and the geography of the area didn't lend itself to being a picnic ground.  We decided to detect it for a while anyhow, but after a bit concluded that it couldn't be the spot we were looking for.  While we were discussing it, I spied a small flat area up a steep hill, and we decided to check it out.  When we got to the top, it looked like we may have found the spot.  Mark veered to the left and I to the right swinging away.

A few minutes later I get a nice big silver signal.  Having no idea what was about to begin, I dug down and out pops a rather odd, hippie looking piece of jewelery.  It's a BIG silver cut out pin that reads "I AM".  I flipped it over and could make out that it was marked "sterling" , but couldn't really read the rest of the mark.  Not really my cup of tea, but a big piece of silver is always welcome in my pouch.  A few feet away from there I get a nickel'ish signal and a few inches down out pops a gold'ish flowerette looking object.  Thinking it's junk, I stick it in my junk pocket and move on.  A few feet from there is an old tree stump, so I decide to quickly scan around the base.  Immediately I get a solid penny signal, and dig down a few inches and out pops a beautiful Art Deco silver/gold bracelet with amethyst stones!  Wow, now I'm excited, but it hasn't quite sunk in what I've encountered.  After I do the happy dance with the bracelet, I rescan the hole and only inches away I get a high silver'ish tone, inches away from where the bracelet was recovered I pull a pair of what appear to be silver cuff links out. Wow, what's going on here?  I quickly scan around the tree trunk base a bit with my detector and it's lighting up targets like the 4th of July.  I can't believe it, did I find my first cache?  By this time, Mark comes down to see what's going on. I show him my finds and lay claim to the tree trunk perimeter Smiley

For the next two hours I dug signal after signal, for a total target count of 30 targets.  Two targets were wheat pennies (1936 and 1942), two were keys, both stamped with the number "165", and two buttons in poor shape (not shown), but the rest was jewelery.  The targets were spread out around this tree trunk within a ten foot radius, some targets were only a few inches under the tree droppings, yet others were as deep as 8".   Typically I'd expect a coin or jewelery cache to be concentrated (buried in a container or sack that has degenerated) , unless it was in a plowed field where it could be spread around, but that's not the case here.  What story do the two matching keys have to tell?  Are they safe deposit box keys, strong box keys, Greyhound locker keys, or what?   It's an interesting find with big mystic surrounding it. How did it end up here?  When was it buried here? Why was it buried here? And why was it spread around and not in one hole?  I'll probably never know the answers to this enigma.  


OK, let's see some pictures   occasion14

The piece that started it all (found that this piece was made by Leonore Doskow who's been a silversmith on the East Coast since the 1920's and her pins, necklaces and bracelets are collector’s items):

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Art Deco sterling silver, 12K gold and amethyst bracelet (found this snippet about them on the web - Symmetalic is a registered trademark of W. E. Richards Company, founded in the 1902 in North Attleboro, MA. The trademark Symmetalic was first used in 1936. Symmetalic jewelry is usually made of Sterling Silver with a 14KT gold overlay and the designs were primarily those of the Edwardian and Art Deco influence. They produced a line of jewelry in sterling vermeil implementing cultured pearls and top quality stones. In general, all of their jewelry exhibited quality designs and materials and incredibly fine workmanship. Symmetalic jewelry is relatively rare and HIGH COLLECTIBLE, look for Art Deco and Nouveau motifs and designs.):

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Getting started:

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Sterling silver hand-made bracelets (Their not marked, but obviously are silver.  Anyone have any ideas on age, maker, etc?):

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Sterling bird pin and Sterling silver BSA ring (looks like an oldie?):

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Gold ladies pocket watch. Unfortunately I haven't been able to open the watch. Typically depressing the stem will release the spring mechanism to open the watch, but the stem is frozen (won't move in any direction), even after trying to loosen it with some WD40.  What a shame, as it's not unusual for the inside of the case to be engraved with the owners name, a date and other interesting information.

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It's a bit dark in the forest where this cache was found, and when I initially found the earring with the stone (first photo), it looked green, of course I was hoping it was a big green emerald   happy2  After getting it home and cleaned up, the gold is only plate, and the stone is actually blue, not green.  The stone might be, at best a blue topaz (which are very inexpensive stones).  The second photo shows the misc ensemble of "gold" objects, but only the bent up bezel is actually real gold. What's interesting is that the gold pocket watch has an "M" engraved on the front of the case, and here we have two gold plated "M"'s, so the owner may have been Mary, or Maria, Monica, or ? The third photo shows the pair of Mother of Pearl cuff-links (looks like the metal was gold or silver plated originally):

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No idea what the half rings in the first photo were?  Two wheatbacks were found among the cache, one dated 1936 the other 1942.  And the keys.  How do the keys fit into the find, are they safe deposit box keys, strong box keys, Greyhound locker keys, or ?

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The cache after it was dug:

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The cache nice and clean:

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The infamous jewelery cache tree stump after all the jewelery was dug.  You can see how spread out around the stump the finds were, and a few were also located outside the field of the photo.  Very odd indeed.

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Even though it didn't turn out to be a cache of Tiffany and Cartier, it was an exciting ride, and a thrill to find   icon_biggrin   The cache invokes all kinds of possibilities as to it's existence.  Was it from a robbery?  Did the owner bury it, intending to return some day to recover it?  Perhaps kids swiped it from their parents, had an extravagant tea party, ditching the evidence afterward.  How do the matching keys factor into the equation?   Perhaps you have an idea as to it's existence?

Thanks for looking and sharing in my excitement   thumbsup
Brian

PS - I did get video clips of several of the finds as I dug them on my camera, I'll work on getting a video together of the cache find.   director2 director

UPDATE:


I went back for a few hours this afternoon to make sure I didn't miss anything, and to fan out and detect more outside of the jewelery cache zone to see what else might be found.  I started off next to the cache stump in disc mode with the sensitivity cranked high and right away got a hit.  It turned out to be a junker earring that fell apart when I cleaned it (not shown).  Then a few feet away I got a bouncer, but something was definitely there.  I dug down about 7" and saw a few inches of a gold chain dangling out the hole.   Excited at first, I relaxed a bit as most of the gold targets dug the day before turned out to be gold plated (except the pocket watch, bracelet and an oddball bent up gold bezel).  I loosened the dirt as to dig around the chain trying not break it.  I finally got her out of the hole and thought it was a fancy necklace, but it had come apart in a few areas (not by me), so I wasn't positive what it was.  I put it in my pouch and continued detecting.  I got another signal and pulled out what I thought was a silver earring, but when I got it home and cleaned it up, it turned out to be just a scrap of junk that I suspect had nothing to do with the cache.  After this target, I didn't receive any further signals, so I decided to try all metal mode with high sensitivity and a positive threshold.  It worked, I found a pair of, well I'm not exactly sure what they are, some kind of small earrings I suspect.  Their both marked Monet Sterling.  I looked up the mark and apparently the Monet mark was used between 1937-1954, with a copyright mark being added after 1954.  Also found another gold plated letter, this time the letter "I".  

The chain turned out to be gold plate, but it's still a neat piece and cleaned up pretty well.  Here's the second round loot from the cache stump:

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I'm fairly certain that the cache stump has dried up, but I plan to go back and hunt around the rest of the forest where this was found and I'm sure the temptation to detect around the stump again will overcome me, and who knows, perhaps there's still a small trinket waiting to be unearthed next to the stump  dontknow

Thanks again for taking a look.
Brian



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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 03:01:53 pm

Congratulations on making some Great finds!  I bet that was one fun day of digging!


BRAVO!!!


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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 03:02:33 pm

Wow! Thats amazing! I think banner.  thats a beautiful cache there!!  Cool

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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 03:03:00 pm


  I'll bet your heart was near pounding through your chest first seeing what you had!  A cache of any kind is a pretty cool find.  thumbsup

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shhh...the person who posted above me just farted but wont see this since you scrolled down.

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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 03:08:07 pm

WOW!!!! Could this possibly be the work of a squirrel considering the proximity to the stump?

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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 03:12:27 pm

Good for you..Enjoy your finds.. thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 03:48:00 pm

WOW Brian, Pretty darn Fantastic cache find!  hello2 hello2 hello2

By virtue of the "Doskow" bracelet and ladies pocket watch alone THIS has got to be a BANNER Find! and my vote is in.

You gotta get that pocket watch opened ... take it to a jeweler ... that's a real beauty.

I like that Art Deco bracelet too .. curious on what it's potential worth might be. Please keep us informed.

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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 03:55:01 pm

Just wanted to Congratulate you on your Great day!!!!   hello2  hello2  hello2  hello2  hello2  hello2   i noticed on the pic of the tree stump that there was a shiny spot on the left above the stump Did yo miss any thing there?Huh   I would run over that stump area several times in the next few weeks!!!  Have a great Night    Chug

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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 03:58:36 pm

wow out standing!
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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 03:59:45 pm

WOW WOW WOW WOW!  I bet you were shaking like a wet dog!

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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 04:01:12 pm

Thats a dream fine!!

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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 04:06:06 pm

Awesome hunt, congrats icon_thumleft

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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 04:12:11 pm

WOW that is a mystery. Thats a great find. notworthy
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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 05:14:25 pm

AMAZING AMAZING AMAZING!! wav wav wav

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Did it again to your heart.
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In this game; oh, baby.
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Think that I'm sent from above...
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Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 05:22:15 pm

Gonna have to hit the banner nom on that one for sure.
Great finds Brian!

Hope you get back there to make sure there's no more clues left behind!

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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 05:22:54 pm

Wow! Thats all I have to say. thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 05:32:37 pm

 Shocked that's crazy  icon_thumleft

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Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 05:34:55 pm

Great find brian !

Its always a thrill to find a cache !   Robin hello2 hello laughing7 thumbsup coffee2
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Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 06:18:41 pm

The Boy Scout ring looks like it could be the newest item that you found, I don't know when that style first appeared. That is a great cache you dug, I vote Banner as well. Kudos!
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Reply To This Topic #19 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 06:25:28 pm

some watch stems need to be pulled up to open, very nice finds and thanks for sharing.

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Reply To This Topic #20 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 06:30:47 pm

Impressive finds...OMG I just love those bracelets.  CONGRATS!!

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Reply To This Topic #21 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 06:55:52 pm

looks like the work of a pack-rat or a squirrel.  good job on the thorough search.
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Reply To This Topic #22 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 07:00:00 pm

Looks like an extreamly fun hunt!!

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Reply To This Topic #23 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 07:23:17 pm

  Well written story of your hunt.

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Reply To This Topic #24 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 07:33:05 pm

I am not going to lie, that is a pretty impressive stash. Great Job~!
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Reply To This Topic #25 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 07:52:21 pm

Hey Brian, I wish you would have found this on Thursday instead of Friday so I could have seen you digging all of that jewelry.  I've been out hunting with you maybe a half dozen times now, and I'm convinced that you are one of the "chosen ones" that the detector gods have breathed their breath of luck upon  notworthy 

I think you have found a ring on every hunt I've been on with you, so you'll always be "Frodo" to me  laughing7

I can't wait to see this loot in person, and hunt with you again.  Maybe some of your luck will rub off on me  Grin

But seriously, I can't say it's all luck - I know the work you put in to researching these locations, so the spoils are well deserved.

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Reply To This Topic #26 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 08:01:00 pm

what a great day wtg
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Reply To This Topic #27 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 08:09:20 pm

Since the numbers match on the keys ; I would guess they may be to a lock-box .

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Reply To This Topic #28 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 08:20:49 pm

Nice going on the cache. That Cub Scout ring is probably from the 60's the early 70's latest.

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Reply To This Topic #29 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 08:23:50 pm

A couple of people have made mention of squirels, heathcliff and other animals.  Not sure if this applies here, but ferrets are quite known for hiding and hoarding objects in a manner such as this. Especially shinny objects. dontknow Just a thought.  At any rate, A HUGE congrats!!! It's finds like this that keep some of us digging. Two thumbs up!  thumbsup thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #30 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 08:31:26 pm

 Shocked Shocked  great old stash recovery!!!!!!!   MR TUFF

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Reply To This Topic #31 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 08:34:01 pm

    
    Amazing finds , Obviously go back and work that area very carefully !  Your bracelets are almost
    certainly of native American origin - Northwest coast  in style - carved (engraved) . These items
    represent a very unique and particular style within the milieu of native Americana . If you go on
    line and do a search for northwest coast silverwork - you'll see representative examples of this
    genre to which your cuffs clearly belong , they are not very old - 1950's--1970's would be my
    guess .     Wonderful discoveries !      Argentium.
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Reply To This Topic #32 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 11:33:40 pm

Thanks everyone, it was a surreal experience. 

You guys have some very interesting theories, several I've not considered.

Jim I didn't used to find that many rings, I really don't know what changed, but I'll take what I can get  thumbsup  Good hunting with you, I need to get last Thursday's and last weekends finds up too  Grin

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   Amazing finds , Obviously go back and work that area very carefully !  Your bracelets are almost
    certainly of native American origin - Northwest coast  in style - carved (engraved) . These items
    represent a very unique and particular style within the milieu of native Americana . If you go on
    line and do a search for northwest coast silverwork - you'll see representative examples of this
    genre to which your cuffs clearly belong , they are not very old - 1950's--1970's would be my
    guess .     Wonderful discoveries !      Argentium.

Thanks for the bracelet info Argentium, I've really been wondering about them.  I'm fairly familiar with Northern California West Coast Native American crafts, and had thought these might be an Indian design, but they just didn't have the look of the local native American work I'm familiar with.  I'll see what I can dig up based on your input, that would be terrific if they turn out to be native American Northwest coast scrimshaw silver bands   icon_thumright


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Reply To This Topic #33 Posted Mar 06, 2010, 11:46:25 pm

might be a old highly popular "make out" under the tree spot ( lovers hide away) near the picnic area---*. male and especially female folks getting dressed // undressed while making out are prone to lose stuff in shifting from (dressed) A to B (ready for action)and back to (dressed) A again --once done with the deed they often scurry away  from the spot to keep from being caught
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Reply To This Topic #34 Posted Mar 07, 2010, 02:38:29 am

Very Nice Finds! Hope you find more.. thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #35 Posted Mar 07, 2010, 03:49:47 am

What a awesome find , the half round object look like half hoop ear rings missing the stem , as for the keys I would say post office box ,ussually they give you two keys when you request it both with the same number stamped on them .It is odd how all that ended up in the woods near a stump  .  Strange very strange !. But awesome finds !
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Reply To This Topic #36 Posted Mar 07, 2010, 04:17:31 am

What a awesome find , the half round object look like half hoop ear rings missing the stem , as for the keys I would say post office box ,ussually they give you two keys when you request it both with the same number stamped on them .It is odd how all that ended up in the woods near a stump  .  Strange very strange !. But awesome finds !

Go to the nearest post office and stick one of those keys in box # 165!
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Reply To This Topic #37 Posted Mar 07, 2010, 05:46:58 am

wow that was a fantastic find!!! love the pocket watch. congrats   hello2 hello2 hello2

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Reply To This Topic #38 Posted Mar 07, 2010, 05:51:59 am

holy goat!!!

Another world inches below us.
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Reply To This Topic #39 Posted Mar 07, 2010, 06:09:24 am

 Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Banner

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Reply To This Topic #40 Posted Mar 07, 2010, 06:30:20 am

   
   Cal ,  With regard to the bracelets , We're talkin Alaska or Canada - (British Columbia) as
   opposed to northern california -  and the word scrimshaw does not pertain here - that is
   a form of engraving used in conjunction with whale ivory .      Argentium.
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Reply To This Topic #41 Posted Mar 07, 2010, 06:39:19 am

Maybe you found a "Hippy Breeding Ground"?
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Reply To This Topic #42 Posted Mar 07, 2010, 07:25:44 am

Did anyone say AWSOME yet,anyways thats just aaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwssssoommmme hello2....K.KID.
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Reply To This Topic #43 Posted Mar 07, 2010, 07:40:09 am

   
   Cal ,  With regard to the bracelets , We're talkin Alaska or Canada - (British Columbia) as
   opposed to northern california -  and the word scrimshaw does not pertain here - that is
   a form of engraving used in conjunction with whale ivory .      Argentium.

Hi Argentium,  Yeah I understood that you meant Alaska or Canada, was just saying I'm familiar with NorCal Indian work and they didn't look anything like that (obviously because their not).  Thanks again, Brian


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Reply To This Topic #44 Posted Mar 07, 2010, 08:02:05 am

Great Finds  thumbsup



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Reply To This Topic #45 Posted Mar 07, 2010, 08:18:15 am

Oh man, what a great story!
I'd be happy finding just one of those pieces. Good luck on your next trip there.
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Reply To This Topic #46 Posted Mar 07, 2010, 08:39:14 am

That Is Cool icon_thumright
HH!!
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Reply To This Topic #47 Posted Mar 07, 2010, 09:10:25 am

Very Nice  congrats  headbang

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Reply To This Topic #48 Posted Mar 07, 2010, 09:34:30 am

Man, that is a thrilling treasure story!  I can imagine your excitement. Shocked

P.S.  Ivan in like your theory on this.

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Reply To This Topic #49 Posted Mar 07, 2010, 09:52:52 am

   Congratulations on your finds. Good story! Hope there's more to tell!           bg thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #50 Posted Mar 07, 2010, 10:01:35 am

An unusual cache ? I congradulate you !! and nominate this post to go to the top !!  MaineRelic.

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Reply To This Topic #51 Posted Mar 07, 2010, 01:22:36 pm

Congratulations!!! Your hard work paid off and you definitely deserve it!!! Good for you. thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #52 Posted Mar 08, 2010, 08:30:40 am

That's what it's all about right there!
Big Congrats! thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #53 Posted Mar 08, 2010, 08:31:02 am

WOOOOHOOOOO!!!!!  Congratulations on making the banner Brian  headbang  headbang  headbang

Next time, find it when you're hunting with me  laughing7  Or better yet, pick where you are going to hunt, and then let me hunt there  thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #54 Posted Mar 08, 2010, 08:48:01 am

what a great find WTG  icon_thumleft  icon_thumright

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Reply To This Topic #55 Posted Mar 08, 2010, 08:49:07 am

Congrats on the BANNER! ... never had a doubt!

I think you need to get that watch open. That might hold a clue to the origin of the cache.

I suspect it's loot of some sort.

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Reply To This Topic #56 Posted Mar 08, 2010, 09:56:59 am

Wow!! Great find.  Being spread out under a tree there may have been a crow or raven nest in it in years past.  They love shiny things and will rob you blind if they get a chance.

Congrats!!
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Reply To This Topic #57 Posted Mar 08, 2010, 10:29:30 am

Congratulations on The Banner and a nice story.       thumbsup    Hogge

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Reply To This Topic #58 Posted Mar 08, 2010, 11:52:40 am

Fantastic find  icon_thumleft congrats on the Banner thumbsup Good hunt

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Reply To This Topic #59 Posted Mar 08, 2010, 12:41:43 pm

that cache mustve really put a smile in on your face !!!
Id say a crook stole it and kept the real stuff then
dumped everything else he didnt want !
Congrats on the banner !!! thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #60 Posted Mar 08, 2010, 03:58:44 pm

Excellent finds. That presearch really paid off. Good intuition on the stump.

My theory is that a trinket stealer or klepto took the items one at a time and kept stashing them near the tree. I can't imagine anyone digging that many holes at once to bury all of those items.

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Reply To This Topic #61 Posted Mar 08, 2010, 04:23:18 pm

that must have been really exciting, I hope there is more to this story in the future
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Reply To This Topic #62 Posted Mar 08, 2010, 04:56:22 pm

Simply wow!  notworthy
That's what dreams are made of, way to go on the find.
There might even more laying around the forest, hope you hit more on a return hunt.
Congrat's on the Banner!
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Reply To This Topic #63 Posted Mar 08, 2010, 05:05:34 pm

WTG!!!  Congrats on making banner and grabbing those great finds!!! thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup icon_king

You showed those club old-timers! Grin

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Reply To This Topic #64 Posted Mar 08, 2010, 07:18:46 pm

 I bet you were like a kid in a candy store  hello2. Wow we all dream of the finds coming out of the ground like that and you did it! Way to go!!
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Reply To This Topic #65 Posted Mar 08, 2010, 10:18:53 pm

A jewelry cache?! UNBELIEVABLE!
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Reply To This Topic #66 Posted Mar 08, 2010, 10:44:30 pm

As cool as it can get  icon_thumright icon_thumright icon_thumright
It was raining jewellery.
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Reply To This Topic #67 Posted Mar 09, 2010, 12:24:18 am

if ti was me i would go back and dig the entire area around the tree out to twelve foot out and 1 foot down and bring a archeology relic scren and sift the whole area out real good and dont throw the junk jewelry away some times costume jewelry can be worth a pretty penny
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Reply To This Topic #68 Posted Mar 09, 2010, 09:10:34 am

Thanks everyone, it's an honor to make the banner  notworthy

This is an addicting hobby, once you find your first exciting _______ (fill in the blank, whatever it is that excites you), you can't wait to find another, but the odds of finding multiples of certain things (like gold coins, caches, GW buttons, etc) isn't high, but it's out there right  help  laughing7

Thanks and HH,
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Reply To This Topic #69 Posted Mar 09, 2010, 10:00:05 am

WELL DONE GOOD JOB notworthy headbang thumbsup icon_salut wav wav
AWESOME JEWELERY CACHE
YOU FOND
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Reply To This Topic #70 Posted Mar 09, 2010, 10:59:26 am

Fantastic find.  Shocked  Shocked  Shocked

Det vi vet er så uendelig lite mot det som har hendt. Arkeologen er som den som går langs en strand og finner småtterier, skyllet i land fra et forsvunnet skib. Men selve skibet som gikk i dypet med menneskene får han aldri se.

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Reply To This Topic #71 Posted Mar 09, 2010, 11:16:03 am

Did you wonder if this cache was stolen then hidden for later. Great find headbang

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Reply To This Topic #72 Posted Mar 09, 2010, 12:10:14 pm

nice cache!  i wish we knew why it was placed there..  I'd get that watch open and see if it has a name or anything they usualy have an engraving and say the makers name and wat each part is made out of and how many jewels it is.  I like the idea that the keys mite be p.o. keys id look ibnto it.  hey in the picture it looks like one key has a monogram is it?
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Reply To This Topic #73 Posted Mar 09, 2010, 12:44:10 pm

 The fact it was spread out and not rapped together leads me to believe it was either a nighttime makeout spot or there was a raccoon with a serious fetish.

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Reply To This Topic #74 Posted Mar 09, 2010, 06:23:55 pm

Even though the two keys are both marked the same, it doesn't look like the teeth patterns are the same (at least in the pic).  I'm pretty sure these aren't PO box keys.  Most all US PO box keys are marked as such.  That's all I've got for now...
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Reply To This Topic #75 Posted Mar 10, 2010, 06:00:57 am

    Congrats on an amazing discovery......WTG

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Reply To This Topic #76 Posted Mar 10, 2010, 06:25:34 am

Maybe the keys are to a double lock safe deposit box??!!  I would have the key’s looked at by a lock smith. The may be able to research them and gives some clues as to what they went to?  Just a thought.

Great digs!

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Reply To This Topic #77 Posted Mar 10, 2010, 12:22:23 pm

Alright Brian!! That was a great day! Congrats! headbang
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Reply To This Topic #78 Posted Mar 10, 2010, 12:40:55 pm

Thats fantastic ya did well  hello2
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Reply To This Topic #79 Posted Mar 10, 2010, 01:55:53 pm

nice cache!  i wish we knew why it was placed there..  I'd get that watch open and see if it has a name or anything they usualy have an engraving and say the makers name and wat each part is made out of and how many jewels it is.  I like the idea that the keys mite be p.o. keys id look ibnto it.  hey in the picture it looks like one key has a monogram is it?

The one key does have a monogram, the keys are marked :

Made for O.D.Jennings & Co.

Chicago, Ill.
ODJ
996


I did a big of google'ing on ODJ, and it would appear that although both keys have "165" stamped on them, that neither key goes to a lock-box, but some type of coin operated machine.

Here's some info on O.D.Jennings & Co.:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O._D._Jennings

Here's a close-up of the keys:

Keys1.jpg
Keys2.jpg

Even though the two keys are both marked the same, it doesn't look like the teeth patterns are the same (at least in the pic).  I'm pretty sure these aren't PO box keys.  Most all US PO box keys are marked as such.  That's all I've got for now...

desecrator your right, they are keyed differently.  The keys are a mystery  dontknow


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Reply To This Topic #80 Posted Mar 10, 2010, 03:06:01 pm

Did you ever get the watch open?OH!! and Congratulations on the Jewelry and the Banner

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Reply To This Topic #81 Posted Mar 10, 2010, 08:10:31 pm

Maybe that stuff fell out of peoples pockets while they were climbing in the tree over the years?

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Reply To This Topic #82 Posted Mar 10, 2010, 08:14:47 pm

Mayhaps some bird or other critter realy liked shinystuff,and you found it's stash. dontknow

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Reply To This Topic #83 Posted Mar 12, 2010, 07:24:36 pm

Wow, great finds. Good story too......well done!!
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Reply To This Topic #84 Posted Mar 13, 2010, 09:17:30 am

Great story!  I noticed in the photo of the tree stub that there is an ORB in the photo. Some people think that Orbs in photos are spirits. Also my great aunt use to belong to a religious sect called "the I AMers" I think it was some sort of a hippy thing, but could explain the silver object.
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Reply To This Topic #85 Posted Mar 13, 2010, 10:32:07 am

Great story!  I noticed in the photo of the tree stub that there is an ORB in the photo. Some people think that Orbs in photos are spirits. Also my great aunt use to belong to a religious sect called "the I AMers" I think it was some sort of a hippy thing, but could explain the silver object.

Interesting you brought up the "I AMers".  A knowledgeable old timer in our club said he thought the pin was more from the 1930's vs a 1960's hippy thing as he recalled reading about some kind of "I AM" movement from back then.  It would make sense, as the lady that made the pin started silversmithing in the 1920's, and her later work is much more "refined" looking. 


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Reply To This Topic #86 Posted Mar 15, 2010, 11:29:04 am

Those are slot machine keys. The machines required two different keys (carried by two different people) to open to prevent one person from stealing the coins. ODJ was a well established casino supplier. I assume that was slot machine #165.

Makes you wonder if the spot was indeed where a thief (thieves?) unloaded the junk and kept the valuables - including the coins they may have stolen. I would have expected more coins found, though.

Awesome find!

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Reply To This Topic #87 Posted Mar 15, 2010, 04:55:52 pm

 icon_thumright Conratulations to you on your finds! BEA  UTIFUL
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Reply To This Topic #88 Posted Mar 15, 2010, 05:05:50 pm

Nice finds......my hunting partner found a pocket watch very much like yours just two days ago icon_thumleft icon_thumleft icon_thumleft Wink

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Reply To This Topic #89 Posted Mar 15, 2010, 11:39:16 pm

Those are slot machine keys. The machines required two different keys (carried by two different people) to open to prevent one person from stealing the coins. ODJ was a well established casino supplier. I assume that was slot machine #165.

Makes you wonder if the spot was indeed where a thief (thieves?) unloaded the junk and kept the valuables - including the coins they may have stolen. I would have expected more coins found, though.

Awesome find!

Thanks Darren, that's good to know.  I found online that ODJ was a coin operated machine manufacturer, but didn't see anything about slots. 

I'd love to know the story behind this cache and what the "good stuff" was  icon_scratch


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Reply To This Topic #90 Posted Mar 17, 2010, 05:36:16 am

Wow!
Congrats Cal!

I believe what you have found was the West Coast answer to Woodstock.
Kenly alluded to what I was thinking.
Must be the site of a major "LOVE IN".  A few mind altering chemicals and raging hormones = lots of great finds & a Banner!

Contratulations!

Good Luck,
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Reply To This Topic #91 Posted Mar 21, 2010, 08:21:29 am

nice ! i've heard of ginko trees but now you found the stump of a bling-o tree...lol
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Reply To This Topic #92 Posted Mar 26, 2010, 09:08:24 am

Amazing, and well-documented, too.  Bravo!  notworthy

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Reply To This Topic #93 Posted Mar 26, 2010, 05:27:55 pm

Unbelievable find, congrats! Your IAM pin might just be the owners initials I.A.M, considering the two other "I" letters you found (one cursive), and the two "M" letters you found (one cursive). Also, the "M" on the pocket watch case was probably an initial for the persons last name. Just a thought.
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Reply To This Topic #94 Posted Mar 27, 2010, 01:53:55 am

the blue "stone" might be tourmaline or aquamarine
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Reply To This Topic #95 Posted Apr 03, 2010, 10:03:53 am

Well done Brian, great finds and a very well written run down  hello2 I noticed that the one key is a yale key that are still used today in padlocks. In fact if you find a padlock at home made by yale, you will probably have another key the same as the one found, just different cuts.
It would seem like the stuff came from a robbery or something, maybe a jewlery repair shop somewhere nearby  Huh
I would imagine that you never slept the night of the finds  Roll Eyes anyway, dont stop now, get back there and find more....

God bless
Peter

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Reply To This Topic #96 Posted May 06, 2010, 02:10:08 am

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Reply To This Topic #97 Posted May 06, 2010, 03:00:59 am

I thought I would write you and tell you about one of my best finds with my MXT. I was lsat exam detecting one of my usual spots in the woods, when I got a mixed trashy type signal, I decided to dig it. I am glad I did, because about 8 inches down, I had to cut a huge root with my mcat exam lesche digger.I started pulling necklaces out of the dirt by the handfuls. There were 42 necklaces and 3 rings individually wrapped in plastic. It was very exciting to find this! Thank you for making such a great machine. Hope you enjoy the story and picture.

Thats interesting, but I bet you made more profit with your affiliate links hidden in your story.

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