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Posted Mar 17, 2010, 05:12:29 pm

Dug these today. Must of been the luck of the Irish.. Grin Anyways, they sure are small. Are these children's or adults? There is a silver dollar for size comparison.
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CRH Totals
Wheats 247
Buffalo 6
War Nic 6
Merc 0
Rosie 9
Quarter
Walking 15
Franklin 27
90% 82
40% 501
Proofs:24
Boxes searched: 193
Skunks:71
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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Mar 17, 2010, 05:28:21 pm

Great dig on St. Patty's day.  thumbsup

I have only dug one and it has a heart shape but is about the same size. I was told it was worn by the ladies of the night. I don't know about that but seems to me it would fit nicely on a cowboy boot.  dontknow
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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Mar 17, 2010, 05:54:17 pm

This same topic came up not long ago on here.Look at period foot wear sometime,they were small.

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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Mar 17, 2010, 05:55:23 pm

Heel plate.

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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Mar 17, 2010, 06:14:44 pm

Heres the discussion on these small heel plates.  http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,260893.0.html
Does yours have a number on it?
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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Mar 17, 2010, 06:46:46 pm

I'm thinking a lady's heel plate.  What cowboy in their right mind would want that print left behind them?  Also, the size seems right for a lady's shoe.  Feet were tiny "back then."  Or maybe a child's. It's been a long time, though, when those types of plates were common. Not in my lifetime, or my parents or grandparents, and I'm ancient.  Those are metal.  Before our modern plastic/rubber shoe soles, they were leather, so you have to go back a while.  JMHO.

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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Mar 17, 2010, 06:52:00 pm

I don't think you can judge by the "decoration" of the heel plate.

Here is a heart shaped heel plate from the civil war days.


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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Mar 17, 2010, 06:57:13 pm

CW era heel plates.
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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Mar 17, 2010, 06:59:21 pm

They are Civil War era heel plates for men.  People were shorter and smaller back then.  Nice find!  Breezie

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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Mar 17, 2010, 07:01:27 pm

I'm thinking a lady's heel plate.  What cowboy in their right mind would want that print left behind them?  Also, the size seems right for a lady's shoe.  Feet were tiny "back then."  Or maybe a child's. It's been a long time, though, when those types of plates were common. Not in my lifetime, or my parents or grandparents, and I'm ancient.  Those are metal.  Before our modern plastic/rubber shoe soles, they were leather, so you have to go back a while.  JMHO.

Were not talking Cowboys and Indians here.These are heel plates and were documented worn during the Civil war.There were regiments that  wore the Clover with great pride

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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Mar 17, 2010, 07:06:07 pm

I agree. There are many references online of these being dug at CW sites.

 http://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...l-war-clover-heel-plates-toe-pieces
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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Mar 17, 2010, 07:17:23 pm

Heres the discussion on these small heel plates.  http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,260893.0.html
Does yours have a number on it?

I'm not seeing a number. If there is one, where it would be is right in the cracked part of the plate on the heart. Appreciate all the replies.

CRH Totals
Wheats 247
Buffalo 6
War Nic 6
Merc 0
Rosie 9
Quarter
Walking 15
Franklin 27
90% 82
40% 501
Proofs:24
Boxes searched: 193
Skunks:71
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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Mar 17, 2010, 07:27:39 pm

not all of the heel plates are civil war. Here is a link to something I posted a while back. The info was given to me by a fellow who had researched it and did a paper on it in college after he was given info on them by an old lady who was in "the business"
 
    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,282529.0.html
 
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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Mar 17, 2010, 07:31:31 pm

I found em without designs in pre-C.W. sites,thanks for bringing that up "V".

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Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Mar 17, 2010, 07:35:58 pm

hmm... you would think as many of these that are out there , that  some information would be easy to find. I can see the "lady of the night" theory. But I could also see normal people wearing them.

CRH Totals
Wheats 247
Buffalo 6
War Nic 6
Merc 0
Rosie 9
Quarter
Walking 15
Franklin 27
90% 82
40% 501
Proofs:24
Boxes searched: 193
Skunks:71
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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Mar 17, 2010, 07:42:16 pm

  You're welcome Kuger  I have no idea hwo long they used heel plates like that but it must have been for a good many years.    I bookmarked that post just in case the subject came up again. Just not my area of expertise:tongue3:
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Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Mar 18, 2010, 08:22:28 am

hmm... you would think as many of these that are out there , that  some information would be easy to find.
Lots of information out there about these plates but also differing opinions.
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Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Mar 18, 2010, 04:35:27 pm

I'm thinking a lady's heel plate.  What cowboy in their right mind would want that print left behind them?  Also, the size seems right for a lady's shoe.  Feet were tiny "back then."  Or maybe a child's. It's been a long time, though, when those types of plates were common. Not in my lifetime, or my parents or grandparents, and I'm ancient.  Those are metal.  Before our modern plastic/rubber shoe soles, they were leather, so you have to go back a while.  JMHO.

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Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Mar 18, 2010, 06:37:05 pm

I'm thinking a lady's heel plate.  What cowboy in their right mind would want that print left behind them?  Also, the size seems right for a lady's shoe.  Feet were tiny "back then."  Or maybe a child's. It's been a long time, though, when those types of plates were common. Not in my lifetime, or my parents or grandparents, and I'm ancient.  Those are metal.  Before our modern plastic/rubber shoe soles, they were leather, so you have to go back a while.  JMHO.

My favorite comment of the night: "What cowboy in their right mind would want that print left behind them?"

Well, apparently I've been outvoted.   Smiley But I still have higher hopes for my dream cowboy...   laughing7 hello dontknow

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Reply To This Topic #19 Posted Mar 18, 2010, 11:45:52 pm

Good finds!  I've seen ones with heart cut-outs and clover cut-outs...and of course the pain ones...

I have actually dug one with a star cut-out.  Only one of that type I'veever seen dug.

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