Lab Rats Wanted: Panic/anxiety disorders

I've recently discovered a very uncomfortable problem in my mind that gives me extreme anxiety when I leave my house. I diagnose it as 'panic disorder'.   I'm constantly looking for the cause of this as I was once a very outgoing person.
One of my investigations led to the finding that a certain common chemical can affect the "hypothalamus". A region of the brain that controls the central nervous system. This initial investigation was about two weeks ago, but I came to the conclusion that I also needed Cholines (egg yolks  [fixed from 'whites'] are the best source, if you don't like eating liver).

So, I stopped this intake of this chemical, and a few days ago(after 1.5weeks of 'quitting'), I went to my local grocery store with very minimal problems.  I went out just now to a local convenient store with almost no symptoms at all.  I don't know if this is a placebo effect, but I'm very happy with the results just the same.

The chemical? Aspartame.  I was drinking lots and lots of diet soda.  I've since stopped this altogether and would like other people to try this out, and/or, let me know if their diet consists of aspartame.  Two weeks free and I feel better.  Not a LOT, but a very noticeable difference.

it's called Aspartame poisening and it could cause other problems like Multiple Scierosis symptoms other effects are fibromyalgia systems, spasms, shooting, pains, numbness in your legs, cramps, vertigo, dizziness, headaches, tinnitus, jont pain, unexplained depression, anxiety attacks, slurred speach, blurred vision, or memory loss.

So look at the ingredients on your food labels and don't use things with Aspartame in them.

it's called Aspartame poisening and it could cause other problems like Multiple Scierosis symptoms other effects are fibromyalgia systems, spasms, shooting, pains, numbness in your legs, cramps, vertigo, dizziness, headaches, tinnitus, jont pain, unexplained depression, anxiety attacks, slurred speach, blurred vision, or memory loss.

So look at the ingredients on your food labels and don't use things with Aspartame in them.

Very good prognosis!

it's called Aspartame poisening and it could cause other problems like Multiple Scierosis symptoms other effects are fibromyalgia systems, spasms, shooting, pains, numbness in your legs, cramps, vertigo, dizziness, headaches, tinnitus, jont pain, unexplained depression, anxiety attacks, slurred speach, blurred vision, or memory loss.

So look at the ingredients on your food labels and don't use things with Aspartame in them.

Very good prognosis!

LOL I was sent a article about it about a year ago.

Actually, I'm being serious.  I remember a couple people telling me about anxiety in there lives, either themselves or their loved ones.  Again, I'm being serious here.  Can someone please take this idea and put it to use?  I think that perhaps aspartame 'might' be a factor in my anxiety.  I'm looking for other people that also have this problem, and if they are also drinking/eating aspartame to cut it out for a few weeks to see if the problem subsides a little.

it's not about being crazy (you inconsiderate people), it's about a problem that you have obviously never experienced, or you would give this thread your utmost respect if you did... because it's a horrible problem.  Kind of like dealing with carcinoma. If you had it, you wouldn't be making fun of it.

I missed this one.
first this is not the place to get advice. Seek medical help.

Such as described cold be cause by a number of things, including some talked about here.

It is also that the thyroid could be causing symptoms and a lot more. 

If it is a continuing problem have it looked into be a medical professional.

I'm sorry to everyone that felt defeated.   When I wrote that late message, I was sure that the ones that posted a response that meant respect, that they would also know that what I posted was not about  them. I'm sorry. Yes, I respect the people that posted true comment very much so.... the other comments were for the people that didn't respect what we were disguising.    So yes, you are not targeted.  It was the people that were calling us crazy that I called "disrespectful".

I hope that in the future, when you feel you are not targeted, you won't feel targeted.  You know who you are.

and at the same point, I still need people with that disability to test my theory.

..and at the same time, I recognize you need to introduce humor, but please respect our problem.  I can laugh like the rest of you, but this is a real request.

In Arkansas, it is called "Phenylketonuria Disorder" and even has a tax credit attached to the disorder once diagnosed. Perhaps your state has a similar program. The attached pic is from my Arkansas State Income Tax return:

I am currently 4 weeks (?) off from aspartame and I had to go on a long drive to pick someone up from work (they were sick and couldn't drive, so I picked them up from work to get them home).   What I felt during this drive, was a degree of fear, but I didn't 'freak out' as we know it as.   I was able to drive for a 1.5 hour round trip (clear across town and back), and didnt' have a 'trip out'.  I was 'scared' of having a trip out, but I didn't trip out.    I was a very welcome feeling.  I'm now wondering if this aspartame really does have an effect on the mind.

It's real to me folks, and I swear, to those that exhibit the same problems, its real to them to.  I'm just hoping they can benefit from it like I hope I am. We'll see as I'm still dealing with the jury.

FWIW, Sorry to everyone I upset, I get very emotional sometimes in my posts. This problem I have should not spew out toward everyone else. I would be the very first guy to give anyone a cot and hot meal any day of the year.

-Mike

allergys and food related health issues are real* if someone said --I'm allergic to milk , no one would say --oh your mentally ill --they would say --oh you have a "legit" medical issue ---so do not drink or use dairy products *

many folks due to the waves of "new" chemical additives put into our foods as preservatives  and "mock" replacement foods for  "natural" sugar used to lower calorie intake --are having bad reactions to these chemicals * -- the govt is "supposed" to check out these "risk" factors before allowing these types of products on the market --however with todays massive war on fatness being pushed by the govt * these  "healthy" additive items were "green lighted" rather easily --

if one doesn't know that additives in the foods one is eating are actually to blame --since they are having "reactions" to the items in them --one often thinks one is going "crazy" since there is no known "cause" that they can track down -- the govt surely will not admit their screw up , the folks that make the product aren't going to fess up either ( can you say class action lawsuit?) --so its often left to doctors and us "normal" folks to figger out whats really  occuring .

[irritable bowel syndrome]

Mike ,Mate. Sounds to me (exactly) like something I experienced myself some many years ago. At the time, I had the good fortune to be directed to someone who recognised the 'suite of symptoms' I was experiencing.

(I still will visit this person (30 years on) or his equally talented son, for osteopathy and otherwise holistic treatment. Over the years I have referred literally dozens of people I've known, to their Clinic - and no complaints!)

What I experienced was a period when I thought I was going mental, yet it was 'cured' by treating the finally identified, physiological problem of irritable bowel syndrome; using natural, including herbal remedies.
Having identified the issue and the means to avoid it, I have never had to suffer that problem since.
To Your Health    Mike

I think several people here did give you the right advise and the most important is getting professional help. Your symptoms could come from a myriad of illnesses, or none! Adding, or subtracting certain chemicals is also a crap shoot at best without professional guidance.

Even with drugs, what works for some, doesn't work, or may be harmful to others. Even if someone here has the same symptoms, they may have a different cause and cure from what you need. You are asking people that metal detect for a hobby for medical advise, not a good thing for the most part.

Funny thing is that today we have hundreds of new mental disorder diseases, the list and causes grow every day. Ivan had mentioned something in an earlier post, and it is something that I truly believe in. It is that the mind itself can help heal with a positive outlook and remedy. For example, if I have a pain anywhere on my body, I just lay down and focus on that area, willing the pain to disappear. In many cases, the pain actually subsides, or goes away. What works for me may not work for you, so get the best professional medical advice!!! Placebo's have also cured people too, so keep that in mind.

Then again, today they are handing out Lexapro like candy  No, I am not making fun of Lexapro, but it seems to be today's aspirin.

Visit with a counseling psychologist.  My sister is very well known in the Dallas area and has a small clinic.  She does a lot of counseling for the military and doesn't prescribe drugs.  She has had good success with people displaying your symptoms.  I don't know about aspertame.  I've drank only artificially sweetened drinks for years and don't know if they contained aspertame or not and have never had any problems.  Lucky I guess? People react differently to many drugs or food products.  Monty

Lots of super people responding to this topic.  Thanks to all.

What I was actually getting at, is people that had actually had, and is going through a panic disorder, can potenitally benefit from what I'm trying. I have this disorder, and from previous posts here, I was hoping that those same people would show up and give me their experience on the topic. Perhaps to see if what I use for a cure, also cures them.   

thanks to T-net for the smart people!!!!

Lots of super people responding to this topic.  Thanks to all.

What I was actually getting at, is people that had actually had, and is going through a panic disorder, can potenitally benefit from what I'm trying. I have this disorder, and from previous posts here, I was hoping that those same people would show up and give me their experience on the topic. Perhaps to see if what I use for a cure, also cures them.   

thanks to T-net for the smart people!!!!

Mike, Mate. PM or e-mail me when ever.

I don't get panic attacks but feeling of deja vu as in reading this thread.
It's a duplication of disorders that Mikeofaustin proclaimed to have had last year.
At that time it was determined by myself that alcohol withdrawal was the cause, as other
related symptoms manifested.
By the way Mike, did your mother-in-law ever wake up ?

 having the DT' S a real "medical" problem--- detoxing is no fun for hard core drinkers , they often knockout hard core alcoholics as they dry them out in a attempt to lessen the shock when they are in a rehab unit --the shock on the human body of going thru withdraw has been known to kill some folks . --its not a joking matter --its deadly serious , and not a pretty sight to see someone "kicking" a habit , the pain and suffering is so great that many junkies refuse to go clean --because of it, that and the monkey on their backs beats them in the head with the "addiction hammer" all day long.

i never touch 'sugar free' soda drinks,i rarely touch normal soda......don't get me wrong i love really cold coke,but there a leading cause of ill health in western diets i believe...............there was a guy on the tv ,he was drinking so many ltrs of soda per day he went blind for a week!!
getting back to aspartame....it's a dangerous substance i never knowingly touch it..in fact give me sugar ,it's natural just don't over do it.

we all know the guy responsible for this poisoin getting on the market and he made millions from it.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/W8N0z8stino" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/W8N0z8stino</a>

i never touch 'sugar free' soda drinks,i rarely touch normal soda......don't get me wrong i love really cold coke,but there a leading cause of ill health in western diets i believe...............there was a guy on the tv ,he was drinking so many ltrs of soda per day he went blind for a week!!
getting back to aspartame....it's a dangerous substance i never knowingly touch it..in fact give me sugar ,it's natural just don't over do it.

we all know the guy responsible for this poisoin getting on the market and he made millions from it.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/W8N0z8stino" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/W8N0z8stino</a>

This explains a lot about the connection between the Republican Party and Big Pharma and their objections
to the Health Reforms.

I don't get panic attacks but feeling of deja vu as in reading this thread.
It's a duplication of disorders that Mikeofaustin proclaimed to have had last year.
At that time it was determined by myself that alcohol withdrawal was the cause, as other
related symptoms manifested.
By the way Mike, did your mother-in-law ever wake up ?

We'll actually, I did curb myself from alcohol for a while thinking that was a big factor, and it didn't make a bit of difference.  I think the main problem (hind sight is 20/20), is that I was mixing my drinks with diet soda.  Apartame.  Plus, i was drinking diet sodas during the day time.  I think I was drinking about a liter a day.      I think I'm really on to something here because one of the main side effects of that chemical is anxiety.  Since being off this chemical for about 6 -7 weeks now, and going to the grocery store today, I was really happy with the outcome.  I actually stopped and started reading recipes on labels, thinking about things to make for dinner, etc.  I was 'trying' to see if I would 'freak out'.  I was nervous, but I did not once 'freak out'.  I was very happy with the outcome. 

I know that there are a lot of people that don't have the slightest problem with aspartame.  That's great.  Unfortunately, I think I did. 

And yes, Mom-in-law is now out of the hospital, been at home, is now on a walker, but has help with at home nurse.  She is a long way from where she was when she wouldn't wake up in the hospital.  But, my GF visited her a couple weeks ago at home, and she's back to drinking again.  Sad really.   I guess we are all born to die.

Another thing I found, that many people are already aware of, is MSG.  It's a BAD chemical.  I've been on this new 'kick' for a week now.  We'll see how that goes.  (but I won't bore Tnet with my outcome).   i realize that I'm a little boring sometimes.

But, I hope I at least give some people with the same problems a new road to try out.

many folks suffer from "unknown" to them chemical and / or food allergy's and or senstivity ( and of one is "touchy" it might even be several differant items that are "triggers") -- that makes them feel ill (often very badly) --- of course until they are find out just what the items are that "triggers" it --many think they are "nuts" since there seems to be no reason for "suddenly" feeling bad.  

my wife is hyper sensitivite to tobacco and mold allergy wize --other strong smells bother her too as well.

Ladies & Gentlemen:   I have been following this very carefully for personal reasons.   My wife has suffered from Agoraphobia coupled with Panic disorder for years, so I 'do' know what you are talking about.

Unfortunately she is NOT a fighter, except with me, so I can do no direct good for her, nor will she try conventional treatments.  She simply states "it won't work, so why try" ? ?  From  my years of paranormal experimentation, I KNOW that I can help her, but it requires cooperation. sigh

Sparticus posted that he learned to control pain by simple concentration.   He is quite correct.  Using what I call Hyper suggestion, I was able to teach both of my grand sons complete pain control in about 15 minutes.  It has come in handy a few times since.

I also found that many conditions can be duplicated, controlled, or aggravated, entirely by mental belief or suggestion.  One of the least used and truly understood medical treatments, is simple Hypnosis. It can create miracles in healing, both physical and Psychologically, and if self induced subconsciously under adverse conditions,  it can do precisely the opposite.  It can generate basically untreatable problems and conditions.

Long, long story here, but will leave it for another day of posting, but will suggest that those with problems, study self hypnosis, extremely easy to do.

Don Jose de La Mancha

Real De:

  A friend of mine went under, not hypnosis, but, "suggestive thought".  He was grinding his teeth and told me, after I told him my story of my agoraphobia/anxiety, gave me a CD with the actual person in the room, speaking.  He listens to this audio many times during the month for his "tune up".  I'll make it available for you to download if you're interested.  (Just PM me).

One thing that I did, during my problems, was use what I named "Bulldoze my way through it".  That means just as it sounds.   I was once not like this, so I needed to realize that I will one day find the problem, but until then, I will bulldoze my way through this, because I am not weak (at least I wasn't before this happened).  SHE is not weak either.  She needs to realize that she can't give up in finding the culprit to her ailments. Tell her not to put her head in the sand and forget about help.   Also, and I know this sounds bad, but perhaps because you love her so much that she is relying on you to find her the fix to the problem.     She needs to put some of her own effort forth. But, you helping her is not bad either.  I currently pissed off my own GF by pouring out all her diet soda's in the sink.

I'm still in the early stages of learning about this disability, but for sure I've found that MSG and Aspartame are chemicals that are VERY bad.  Keep this in mind, because beautiful women (that want to stay beautiful) drink and eat low all the time fat/sugar free foods.  All of these foods that they eat are riddled with aspartame.  Also, 80% of our food has MSG in it.  Some people can deal with it, some people can't.   

We, as humans, have developed not only our teeth to tear meat over the millions of years that we have developed, but we have also successfully propagated as a species on natural foods for millions of years.  Natural foods.  Its' was not until the last 40 to 50 years that we are now eating man made chemicals in our diet.  And as of late, we are eating much more of these chemicals more and more. So, it's no wonder that certain people have problems with the non-naturual diets that we put in our digetisteve track.

One thing I've been telling people is that... Don't take my word for it.  Do your own research.  Look at all the information about the good benefits of these chemicals, and then look at the bad.  The outcome from your investigation, I don't even have to guess.   But, one things for sure.  Let's get your beautiful women back on her feet so you can dance with her again.  Dance to the success of making her well again my friend.  Dance in the street of downtown _____, and let her sing at the top of her lungs with joy of being able to 'feel' free.  Free to enjoy life as it was meant to be.

Good luck my friend. 
-M


Again, some people can handle these man-made things... Others are more acceptable to natural diets.