U.S. PLATE, 1746 Pillar Reale, VIRGINIA & MASS. BUTTONS....ALL FROM NEW CAMPSITE

What's up TNet.  Jeff (UmrGolf2000) and I got out to do our daily digging yesterday and today and we secured permission at a new site which ended up being a AWESOME untouched Civil War Campsite!!!  We dug some really amazing stuff and unbelievable quantities.....we're still pretty light-headed from the whole experience and this goes down as one of our best hunts this year!  We hope y'all enjoy them!!  Well enough talking....onto the photos!  We have a few videos too

The button in the video ended up being the Massachusetts button

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/TGT93z3l2UI" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/TGT93z3l2UI</a>

Some of the buttons as they come out of the dirt
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/5nB4RTy6sI8" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/5nB4RTy6sI8</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/G-DLjB8iJuQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/G-DLjB8iJuQ</a>


Virginia Cuff Button (W.H.M. Smith New York)



War of 1812 Navy Eagle Button




Large Eagle Artillery Coat Button





Massachusetts Button


1820's Eagle Artillery Button (1-piece  SCOVILLS)


National Home for Disabled Volunteer Soldiers Cuff Button




Group Button shot (8 GS buttons, Eagle A, Eagle I, VA, MA, 1812 Navy, 1812 Artillery Corps, 1820's Artillery, silver flat button, unknown button)


Eagle Pistol Percussion Cap Lid (heavily silver plated) & US box plate


1746 Pillar Style One Reale (mexico city, mexico)




1862 Indian Head Penny


Group Photo

Ornate suspender buckles, knee buckle, kepi buckle

holy cow! that button assortment is banner material. amazing day.

wow those are fantastic finds!  I would probably spend the rest of the season on that site!!

Wow!

That is some AWESOME digging!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bubba65

What an amazing experience Josh.. Probably a once in a lifetime thing to dig that many military relics along with a couple nice coins.. 2010 has been one we'll remember for quite sometime

Definitely one of the best collection of button finds I've seen posted on T-Net in my 2 yrs. here. Would like to see the back of the unknown relic. Actually looks like it could be a rosette. I think I have actually seen the cuff button depicted somewhere. Interesting. Congratulations.   "THE Hogge"

Sentinal that was one of the most well put together post of a civil War relics hunt I have ever seen here on T-NET !!   The finds alone are mind boggling and BANNER worthy! To find an unhunted civil war camp site on an intown lot !   PRICELESS !!!!!!    The Pic of the ornate  sash buckles and keepies is my favorite !!  If I could vote twice for BANNER I would !!      My vote is in !!    MaineRelic

Wow.  That is one incredible group of finds you have there!     

Fantastic groups there 

WOW! That is just too awesome for words! congrats on the great hunt and I can't wait to see what else comes out of there.

Josh, What an amazing day you had down there, Many congratulations and don't forget your buddy next time 

Thank you all for the kind words and banner votes..  Josh is working on some math stuff for college at the moment but will be around later to reply..  Hogge, the unknown relic turns out to be a percussion cap lid

          Excellent!!! Looks like a very early camp to me Gentlemen. WTG, Quindy.

AWESOME hunt!!!!!  nice relics     MR TUFF

Incredible assortment of buttons WTG  great silver find also that sure is a oldie Good hunt  Dd60

     Fantastic................. 

Beautiful civil war finds man

HH Jer

Ok you guys. you've dug enough for one year. Leave something for the rest of us.     All I can say is you all are on a roll and got into a great spot. On your 2 piece button, the Superior Quality mark on that one looks to be mid 1900's. During the centennial there were buttons and ribbons with a US & CS soldier shaking hands. I'm not 100% sure that's what the button is but I'm guessing it might be since the backmark seems to be of that time period. Can you make out what the writing on the front is?

Ok you guys. you've dug enough for one year. Leave something for the rest of us.     All I can say is you all are on a roll and got into a great spot. On your 2 piece button, the Superior Quality mark on that one looks to be mid 1900's. During the centennial there were buttons and ribbons with a US & CS soldier shaking hands. I'm not 100% sure that's what the button is but I'm guessing it might be since the backmark seems to be of that time period. Can you make out what the writing on the front is?

Thanks for the input yank, post-war heh? That'd be the only relic that came out that was post-war.  Josh thinks its period or very shortly there-after and no we aren't able the make out the words other than the first one "the"..

Wow what a fantastic hunt... congrats on the finds and new site...can't wait to see what else comes out of that site... 

holy cow! that button assortment is banner material. amazing day.

Thanks Dwayne!  Did you vote it for banner??

Wow!

Thanks Mainer my friend!!

Definitely one of the best collection of button finds I've seen posted on T-Net in my 2 yrs. here. Would like to see the back of the unknown relic. Actually looks like it could be a rosette. I think I have actually seen the cuff button depicted somewhere. Interesting. Congratulations.   "THE Hogge"

Hogge, thanks SO much for saying so because Jeff and I REALLY DO go out of our way to film IN THE FIELD to show everyone that we DO dig every one of these buttons/relics and we AREN'T messing/kidding with you guys.

Sentinal that was one of the most well put together post of a civil War relics hunt I have ever seen here on T-NET !!   The finds alone are mind boggling and BANNER worthy! To find an unhunted civil war camp site on an intown lot !   PRICELESS !!!!!!    The Pic of the ornate  sash buckles and keepies is my favorite !!  If I could vote twice for BANNER I would !!      My vote is in !!    MaineRelic

MaineRelic, thanks dude!  We have been busting our butts and we are still in shock that we found this spot!  Really UNBELIEVABLE.....we're still in disbelief!  Thanks A TON MY FRIEND for the BANNER vote.....Lots of people might not think Civil War buttons is unique enough...but what we are saying is the QUANTITY is DEFINITELY Bannerworthy

Very Nice Relics
HH!!

Outstanding!!!Eagle percussion co.makes sense!
Actually those arent sash buckles but suspender buckles that has a ring attachment,they were quite common in the 1850's,we find them,and I have a period photo somewhere!

That is amazing!!!! great buttons and nice silver too 

Here is a daguerreotype of a similar design.....not the one I was looking for but close,I have one exact somewhere.

Here is one I recently dug that had the ring still attached

Here is a daguerreotype of a similar design.....not the one I was looking for but close,I have one exact somewhere.

Here is one I recently dug that had the ring still attached

Yes indeed, I meant suspender buckles   Had a mind fart

 

Great Buttons !!!!!!!!!!!!!   You killed it , what a score !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Banner !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Looks like you dug every signal. Whatta group!

Awesome finds.  Congrats on all the buttons.
Dman

Outstanding!!!Eagle percussion co.makes sense!
Actually those arent sash buckles but suspender buckles that has a ring attachment,they were quite common in the 1850's,we find them,and I have a period photo somewhere!

thanks for the id help kuger.. I didnt know what they were but josh said suspender when i showed him the first one in the field, just a typo i think.. Thanks again for the replies and banner votes.. A lot of time and effort is put into these posts.

holy cow! that button assortment is banner material. amazing day.

Thanks Dwayne!  Did you vote it for banner??

Congrats on a well-deserved banner. My vote was in!

SWEET

Nice finds! Congrats making to the banner!

WTG, that site will be a place you will talk about for years to come, may more come out in the future hunts there!!

Don

 :hello:Dang!!!!! Tremendous Finds !!!!!!
vermonster

Hey buddy! Since your my new best friend... when you going to take me digging? 

 Yikes. I dont know what I would do if I ever had a day that good. The US box plate has been on my dream find list for 10 years and probably never will find one here in NY

Man, let me tell you--If you two had called after each great find yesterday, it would've tied my phone up for hours.     Now THAT's a hunt!!!  Box plate is killer--and actually that percussion cap tin lid is a great find.  I'm trying to think of where I've seen that in an original presentation box with a period sidearm before...must've been in an auction catalog. 

I don't know what that mystery button is, but it is not a KY state seal.  I am wondering if it could be a military academy.  There are "Superior Quality" bm's from the CW era.  I would like to see a good quality, close-up photo of the button in better lighting.


Regards,


Buckleboy

Outstanding!!!Eagle percussion co.makes sense!
Actually those arent sash buckles but suspender buckles that has a ring attachment,they were quite common in the 1850's,we find them,and I have a period photo somewhere!

thanks for the id help kuger.. I didnt know what they were but josh said suspender when i showed him the first one in the field, just a typo i think.. Thanks again for the replies and banner votes.. A lot of time and effort is put into these posts.

I figured you guys knew that.I cant tell you how awesome of a hunt you guys had,and know its not luck,it burns me when people think consistent fantastic finds are because of luck,its a lot of work,the detecting is the easy part!

Dang Man!   

I figured you guys knew that.I cant tell you how awesome of a hunt you guys had,and know its not luck,it burns me when people think consistent fantastic finds are because of luck,its a lot of work,the detecting is the easy part!

kuger is Absolutely Right.  Very little luck involved.  Mainly hard work. 

Hats off to you two. 


-Buck

Outstanding!!!Eagle percussion co.makes sense!
Actually those arent sash buckles but suspender buckles that has a ring attachment,they were quite common in the 1850's,we find them,and I have a period photo somewhere!

thanks for the id help kuger.. I didnt know what they were but josh said suspender when i showed him the first one in the field, just a typo i think.. Thanks again for the replies and banner votes.. A lot of time and effort is put into these posts.

I figured you guys knew that.I cant tell you how awesome of a hunt you guys had,and know its not luck,it burns me when people think consistent fantastic finds are because of luck,its a lot of work,the detecting is the easy part!

No, I'm pretty sure I'm lucky

Awesome finds. Congrats!!

Outstanding!!!Eagle percussion co.makes sense!
Actually those arent sash buckles but suspender buckles that has a ring attachment,they were quite common in the 1850's,we find them,and I have a period photo somewhere!

thanks for the id help kuger.. I didnt know what they were but josh said suspender when i showed him the first one in the field, just a typo i think.. Thanks again for the replies and banner votes.. A lot of time and effort is put into these posts.

I figured you guys knew that.I cant tell you how awesome of a hunt you guys had,and know its not luck,it burns me when people think consistent fantastic finds are because of luck,its a lot of work,the detecting is the easy part!

No, I'm pretty sure I'm lucky

Nah,Cru,I think you meet that "Consistency ",clause

Outstanding!!!Eagle percussion co.makes sense!
Actually those arent sash buckles but suspender buckles that has a ring attachment,they were quite common in the 1850's,we find them,and I have a period photo somewhere!

thanks for the id help kuger.. I didnt know what they were but josh said suspender when i showed him the first one in the field, just a typo i think.. Thanks again for the replies and banner votes.. A lot of time and effort is put into these posts.

I figured you guys knew that.I cant tell you how awesome of a hunt you guys had,and know its not luck,it burns me when people think consistent fantastic finds are because of luck,its a lot of work,the detecting is the easy part!

No, I'm pretty sure I'm lucky

Nah,Cru,I think you meet that "Consistency ",clause

what consistently lucky

Josh, What an amazing day you had down there, Many congratulations and don't forget your buddy next time 

Thanks Todd.  Yeah, it was a pretty good day but not as lucky as your day with the Gold Georgivs III   I've said it once....and I'll say it again, you ARE the luckiest digger I know

 hey kuger and cru, i think ur both right cuz the cw stuff came from an area weve been researching but the reale was def blind luck in a lot we had never stepped in.. Either way we are very fortunate to be digging in this area

         Excellent!!! Looks like a very early camp to me Gentlemen. WTG, Quindy.

Thanks Quin.  Yes, this was a Rev. War, War of 1812, and a Civil War spot.  Actually, this area was used for the duration of the war, but there are early war relics and buttons mixed in

Incredible assortment of buttons WTG   great silver find also that sure is a oldie Good hunt   Dd60

Thanks DD!  We sure appreciate your support buddy

    Fantastic.................  

 Thanks bud!

Beautiful civil war finds man
HH Jer

Thanks JerV3

Ok you guys. you've dug enough for one year. Leave something for the rest of us.     All I can say is you all are on a roll and got into a great spot. On your 2 piece button, the Superior Quality mark on that one looks to be mid 1900's. During the centennial there were buttons and ribbons with a US & CS soldier shaking hands. I'm not 100% sure that's what the button is but I'm guessing it might be since the backmark seems to be of that time period. Can you make out what the writing on the front is?

Tell you what Yank......We'll come up and dig some more of those plates....and you can come down here and dig some of these buttons  How's that sound?

Great Buttons !!!!!!!!!!!!!   You killed it , what a score !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Banner !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks so much KyFreeBird!  We DEFINITELY appreciate your banner vote my friend!!!

Awesome finds.  Congrats on all the buttons.
Dman

Thanks Dman

Man, let me tell you--If you two had called after each great find yesterday, it would've tied my phone up for hours.     Now THAT's a hunt!!!  Box plate is killer--and actually that percussion cap tin lid is a great find.  I'm trying to think of where I've seen that in an original presentation box with a period sidearm before...must've been in an auction catalog. 

I don't know what that mystery button is, but it is not a KY state seal.  I am wondering if it could be a military academy.  There are "Superior Quality" bm's from the CW era.  I would like to see a good quality, close-up photo of the button in better lighting.

Regards,

Buckleboy

Thanks Buck.  And no its definitely not a Kentucky BUT fresh out of the dirt it DID look like one but as soon as we got it home and I was able to more closely look at it, it became clear that it wasn't a Kentucky button.  Than I thought, "The only other button I know of that has two people shaking hands are the G.A.R. buttons"  But wasn't able to find and exact match....We'll crack it eventually....

hey kuger and cru, i think ur both right cuz the cw stuff came from an area weve been researching but the reale was def blind luck in a lot we had never stepped in.. Either way we are very fortunate to be digging in this area

O.K.,I can agree we are all very Fortunate!!Any of you LUCKY gys wanna buy me some lotto tickets

        Congrats on making the Banner Josh and Joe. WTG, Quindy.

 

Wel didn't you find a good place to hunt congrats on the Banner that's better than digging 2000 year old cruddy Roman coins

SS

It's very rare to find an untoched camp these days,huge congrats to you guys!!!

Banner 

Congrats on that absolutely awesome group of finds !!
Those finds definetily deserve their spot on the banner !!!

Hey Y'all....It was Myself and Jeff who dug these finds  Thanks to all you guys who voted the Banner for us!  Here's to ya!

        Congrats on making the Banner Josh and Joe. WTG, Quindy.

My good buddy Quindy calls me Joe   Jeff Quindy, Jeff   Thanks for the kind words

hey kuger and cru, i think ur both right cuz the cw stuff came from an area weve been researching but the reale was def blind luck in a lot we had never stepped in.. Either way we are very fortunate to be digging in this area

O.K.,I can agree we are all very Fortunate!!Any of you LUCKY gys wanna buy me some lotto tickets

That's a good idea.. cuz if i win the powerball, I'll just be a fulltime digger

Hey Y'all....I want to make CLEAR that JEFF AND I post our finds TOGETHER!   We take turns posting so that we both don't have individual posts every week.....since we dig together...we post our stuff together so Y'ALL PLEASE READ THE POST FULLY and give Jeff some Props too!   Thanks to all you guys who voted the Banner for us!  Here's to ya!

double banner it is then

AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, you all come up and dig the plates and I come down and dig the buttons. The plates take up to daggone much space and I get tired of looking at all those US's ha ha
I don't ever remember seeing any regular GAR buttons with the soldiers shaking hands. just the collar studs. I looked in Albert's book and didn't see any. Not saying the don't exist though. I hope you all find out what it is. Let us know when you do. OK?

Wel didn't you find a good place to hunt congrats on the Banner that's better than digging 2000 year old cruddy Roman coins

SS

Thanks SS.....I don't know.. ALOT of those Roman coins aren't "cruddy" though and are quite awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Great finds !!

Ok, you all come up and dig the plates and I come down and dig the buttons. The plates take up to daggone much space and I get tired of looking at all those US's ha ha
I don't ever remember seeing any regular GAR buttons with the soldiers shaking hands. just the collar studs. I looked in Albert's book and didn't see any. Not saying the don't exist though. I hope you all find out what it is. Let us know when you do. OK?

plates sound nice at least ones that look better than the one in our post   i know what you mean about the heartbreakers.. the virginia cuff i posted about 3 weeks ago turned out to be 1870-1880 (D. Klein)

Guys, I have been looking for that button ALL DAY with no luck.  There is a military academy that comes to mind that it might be from--but I'll have to PM you, since there are no extant buttons from that school known.   

Guys, I have been looking for that button ALL DAY with no luck.  There is a military academy that comes to mind that it might be from--but I'll have to PM you, since there are no extant buttons from that school known.   

Awesome, awesome discoveries.  I've been staring at that 'unknown' button as well, looking for clues.  Appears that the figure on the right has his right leg raised with his foot resting on an object (rock?).  At the bottom, is that 3 stars and a crescent?  If so, maybe it represents a fraternal organization of some kind.  Congrats on the finds and good luck IDing the button.  Cheers.

Great day out, amazing selection of buttons. 
Congrat's on Banner.

Thanks you guys who are helping to id the button.. We're thinking it has some fraternal association also and is highly likely a later button than the rest of the finds.. Let us know if u find anything else

Awesome finds!!!  Buttons are great to find.  Really like finding the Fat Indians.

Awesome finds!!!  Buttons are great to find.  Really like finding the Fat Indians.

Thanks man, I think we've pulled up 8 or 9 of those fatties in the last couple of weeks

whoa...thats all I can say.

Congrats on the Banner,  J-Team   ..   ,nice thread 2 !! Fantastic hunt & finds !!!  

I am having trouble with scale here.....is this item a bullet or much larger than a bullet?  The reason I am asking, is that I found something that looks very similar.  The item I found is a lot bigger than a bullet and made of thin copper.  The item in your picture looks too large to be a bullet.  If your item isn't a bullet, what is it?

Baldingboy

I am having trouble with scale here.....is this item a bullet or much larger than a bullet?  The reason I am asking, is that I found something that looks very similar.  The item I found is a lot bigger than a bullet and made of thin copper.  The item in your picture looks too large to be a bullet.  If your item isn't a bullet, what is it?

Baldingboy

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Hey BaldingBoy, what you're seeing is a flattened/smashed BIG BOY .69 Caliber Minie.  You can only imagine getting hit by one of those.....they're the reason that doctors across the country were amputating during the Civil War.  And as big as these were, there ARE just a FEW that have been found in the .72 caliber range but they are as RARE as hens teeth to find. 

I am having trouble with scale here.....is this item a bullet or much larger than a bullet?  The reason I am asking, is that I found something that looks very similar.  The item I found is a lot bigger than a bullet and made of thin copper.  The item in your picture looks too large to be a bullet.  If your item isn't a bullet, what is it?

Baldingboy

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Hey BaldingBoy, what you're seeing is a flattened/smashed BIG BOY .69 Caliber Minie.  You can only imagine getting hit by one of those.....they're the reason that doctors across the country were amputating during the Civil War.  And as big as these were, there ARE just a FEW that have been found in the .72 caliber range but they are as RARE as hens teeth to find. 

A .69 Caliber?  So that explains why it looks huge in the picture.  Yeah, I can only imagine seeing what a .72 caliber looks like.  That would be like getting hit by a rocket. 

Well, you answered my question.  The item I found looks just like a flattened bullet, but is made out of copper or brass and is hollow inside.  It is considerably larger than even a .69 caliber.  I suspect it was a topper on a silver dollar sized round post or something.  The ridges around it give it the profile of a three ringer and it's old.  Kinda puzzling...but probably just something decorative.   

Thanks,
Baldingboy

One Reale my king Felipe V .... 

Congrats on the hunt ....!!!

One Reale my king Felipe V .... 

Congrats on the hunt ....!!!

King Phillip/Felipe is your favorite king?  I would understand if that is so because his Reales are beautiful!

Fantastic day guys!! love the video not to long. Great site!     

Fantastic day guys!! love the video not to long. Great site!     

Thanks Detecta, Yes....we like making Videos to show the finds as we dig them...still in their DIRTY state