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Best point I have found in 5 Years. Dalton or Clovis??

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Posted May 16, 2010, 11:48:46 am

Found this morning on a 4 site 6 hour hunt, Found in a planted cornfield in Pike county I have been wanting to look in for years but it was always no tilled or in beans that were drilled. Also found 2 broken celts and a nice birdy along with several broken points on this ridge!! What kind of point is it and what kind of chert?
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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted May 16, 2010, 12:09:33 pm

wow very nice,looks like a small flute on it,good find.  jamey
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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted May 16, 2010, 12:58:59 pm

Excellent find Buckhunter.

I would say it's a Clovis and the material could be an Agate of some kind or it could be Chalcedony.

Definitely a killer find.

Everyone needs to nominate this for the banner. They just don't get much better than that folks so lets get it up on the banner.

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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted May 16, 2010, 01:12:57 pm

BANNER!!!!
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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted May 16, 2010, 01:16:56 pm

The find of a lifetime fer sure! Banner

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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted May 16, 2010, 01:21:06 pm

BANNER!!!!

I would agree If you's can Definately
ID Dalton or Clovis?? or ?

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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted May 16, 2010, 01:25:18 pm

Thank you all, for your kind words, Im still on cloud 9

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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted May 16, 2010, 01:25:42 pm

Awesome find!  Thanks for sharing.
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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted May 16, 2010, 01:29:27 pm

IMHO..Classic Clovis headbang

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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted May 16, 2010, 01:45:31 pm

 Killer find!! Got my vote for banner. Thanks for the look. H.H.
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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted May 16, 2010, 02:00:50 pm

WOW. What an awesome point.  Shocked

Fluted both sides, I would say clovis.  thumbsup

My vote is in.  Smiley
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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted May 16, 2010, 02:37:05 pm

That is a beauty of a point thanks for the post

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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted May 16, 2010, 03:06:21 pm

nice find
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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted May 16, 2010, 04:28:21 pm

Whew!   
I don't respond to a lot of post's but, this one is a well deserved BANNER.   hello2 hello2 hello2

Fantastic point.  I find them around here, but, not in this shape.
Donate that to your local museum.





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Reply To This Topic #14 Posted May 16, 2010, 04:40:17 pm

Clovis, the,"Holy Grail", of points, double flutes is the end all.
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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted May 16, 2010, 04:51:14 pm

 hello2  VERY NICE
i think the stone is felsite, a quartz feldspar.

Reply To This Topic #16 Posted May 16, 2010, 04:59:49 pm

Wow this is a spectacular and very rare find...especially in this condition and of the quality or workmanship and material. They don't get much better than this! Way to go!

I can't believe how few replies there are to this post. I guess there are fewer artifact collectors out there.

Well deserved on the banner!  headbang

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Reply To This Topic #17 Posted May 16, 2010, 05:00:30 pm

Congrats on the banner.  I bet you'll be going back to that site soon.
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Reply To This Topic #18 Posted May 16, 2010, 05:12:30 pm

ABSOLUTELY beautiful!!!  Banner!!!

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Reply To This Topic #19 Posted May 16, 2010, 05:13:22 pm

woo hoo
Congrats!
It almost looks like novaculite.
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Reply To This Topic #20 Posted May 16, 2010, 05:19:57 pm

Double Fluted Clovis for sure in gem quality material. Definetely a centerpiece in a collection. Congrats,,,its a Beauty.
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Reply To This Topic #21 Posted May 16, 2010, 05:21:51 pm

That is one fantastic Clovis point  icon_thumleft its prefect in the fields around here they are found but not like that one  thumbsup Congrats on Banner Dd60
Where i live out here on the Northfork this is considered a Clovis Point there must be many many different designs .
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Reply To This Topic #22 Posted May 16, 2010, 05:52:33 pm

Congrats on such a gorgeous point. icon_thumright  It is a beauty!!

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Reply To This Topic #23 Posted May 16, 2010, 06:50:50 pm

Congrats!  That is one awesome CLOVIS. I would love to find one of those.
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Reply To This Topic #24 Posted May 16, 2010, 07:03:32 pm

Killer Clovis.
The material is awesome.
Banner for sure.
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Reply To This Topic #25 Posted May 16, 2010, 07:05:30 pm

Im still not sure it is a clovis ?

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Reply To This Topic #26 Posted May 16, 2010, 08:27:06 pm

Awesome Find !! Beautiful Clovis  thumbsup Congratulations  thumbsup thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #27 Posted May 16, 2010, 08:31:53 pm

Unbelievable find. Banner!
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Reply To This Topic #28 Posted May 16, 2010, 11:26:36 pm

i'd say clovis and dont ever take less than 5000 for that piece i seen one clearer that sold for 10000.sweet
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Reply To This Topic #29 Posted May 16, 2010, 11:29:08 pm

Im still not sure it is a clovis ?
i'd say clovis, send it to dwain rogers he'll paper it for you
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Reply To This Topic #30 Posted May 17, 2010, 02:50:28 am

YUP!
definitely Banner!!
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shhh...the person who posted above me just farted but wont see this since you scrolled down.

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Reply To This Topic #31 Posted May 17, 2010, 03:23:00 am

And that, friends is how a point becomes a BANNER Stone!!
Congrats!!  icon_thumright

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Reply To This Topic #32 Posted May 17, 2010, 06:06:17 am

Well-deserved Banner for that superb Clovis.  Congratulations!

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Reply To This Topic #33 Posted May 17, 2010, 06:47:14 am

Double Fluted Clovis for sure in gem quality material. Definetely a centerpiece in a collection. Congrats,,,its a Beauty.

WAAAA, GEM QUALITY.
 hello2
i have a vein of felsite just like this 2 feet wide, it looks like someone has mined it in the past. i should go back and look at it. its just above the platinum clay. cuts across the creek like a gate way. you look forward and it goes in the bluff, look behind you and it is gone for about 200 meters. it should still be there because its so hard, that's why the Clovis liked it. i made jem stone from it years ago, it is a semi precious gem stone.
your point is soooo  nice, very white, i envy and congratulate you.
you know the controversial theory is that a white guy dropped it around  10,000 years ago.

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Reply To This Topic #34 Posted May 17, 2010, 07:48:34 am

Wow Buck,
every time i get near my computer i have to look at that wonderful piece
i hope you find some more good stuff in that area
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Reply To This Topic #35 Posted May 17, 2010, 08:24:52 am

congrats on awesome find coffee2
and on making the banner thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #36 Posted May 17, 2010, 09:25:23 am

look to see if it has colors , pink hmmm.
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Reply To This Topic #37 Posted May 17, 2010, 09:28:39 am

 headbang very nice, all these last banners have been when im away from comp, i wanted to vote too....... thats B E A U T I F U L!!!!!!!!!!!

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Reply To This Topic #38 Posted May 17, 2010, 10:40:33 am

Good grief! AMAZING clovis...one of the  best I've seen! Good job!!!!!

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Reply To This Topic #39 Posted May 17, 2010, 11:25:14 am

 Shocked Great find.  icon_sunny

Det vi vet er så uendelig lite mot det som har hendt. Arkeologen er som den som går langs en strand og finner småtterier, skyllet i land fra et forsvunnet skib. Men selve skibet som gikk i dypet med menneskene får han aldri se.

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Reply To This Topic #40 Posted May 17, 2010, 12:34:03 pm

Fantastic Clovis.  Great, Great find.  Anytime you can find a whole point, is a fantastic day.  Must be really sandy where you found this
one.  I bet you will be hitting that site again and again. 

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Reply To This Topic #41 Posted May 17, 2010, 06:11:15 pm

Thanks for all your comments and congratulations. You people are what makes the relic collecting community fun to be around notworthy notworthy notworthy

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Reply To This Topic #42 Posted May 18, 2010, 02:43:12 am

Very fine find.  That's a great piece of material as well.  Congrats on the great point.

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Reply To This Topic #43 Posted May 18, 2010, 06:45:53 am

That's worth heap big wampum. I can make one, most flintknappers can (more or less), but a real one
like that is a site to behold! That is the hardest point to find (in one piece), period. White quartz, flint, whatever you
want to call it is so beautiful. The edge almost has an opalesecent quality to it with the light shining
through it. I know guys that have spent their whole life looking for one and never done it.
By the way, were you on the western bank of a creek when you found it? If so, go back, you may find more!!

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Reply To This Topic #44 Posted May 18, 2010, 11:01:48 am

What a beautiful piece ... major congratz on the find and making the banner!

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Reply To This Topic #45 Posted May 18, 2010, 06:49:40 pm

 Yeah that material is fine. Congratulations again.  thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #46 Posted May 18, 2010, 11:14:37 pm

I live for finds like this one, vicariously through TNet.
It looks good on the BANNER headbang
I will bet a bob, the maker of the point was just as pleased with the result of his handicraft
as you were, when you first found it.  notworthy
Surely the use of this point was for something special?
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Reply To This Topic #47 Posted May 19, 2010, 03:21:34 pm

 thumbsup I'm likin' this one! Rare type and
killer material to boot.  thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #48 Posted May 19, 2010, 05:47:57 pm

Im not sure how felsite would flake, so my bet is on Chalcedony... I personally know several collectors who would give their left organ to have a point like that... They will be at the Temple Texas artifact show in June....  Dwayne Rogers will be there as well...  Im still keeping my hopes up to find one like yours... CONGRATS!

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Reply To This Topic #49 Posted May 20, 2010, 03:36:30 pm

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Reply To This Topic #51 Posted May 21, 2010, 07:44:49 am

A very nice arrowhead and complete ... a deserved Banner.  notworthy
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Reply To This Topic #52 Posted May 21, 2010, 05:47:14 pm

 i seen some flintridge flint just like that anyway awesome find one in a life time find there
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Reply To This Topic #53 Posted May 21, 2010, 06:37:24 pm

AWESOME POINT   wav
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Reply To This Topic #54 Posted May 22, 2010, 09:37:01 am

Went back today and found a broken Dalton drill, Pictures to come later. I have no idea how I missed it the first time other than it was behind a corn stalk, and a couple of average points.

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Reply To This Topic #55 Posted May 25, 2010, 09:14:54 am

congrats on banner
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Reply To This Topic #56 Posted May 26, 2010, 09:13:35 pm

Very nice!  thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #57 Posted May 28, 2010, 08:20:20 pm

very nice point---bravo! hello2 laughing7

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Reply To This Topic #58 Posted May 30, 2010, 09:09:14 am

Congrats, what a superb find.

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Reply To This Topic #59 Posted May 31, 2010, 07:25:58 am

Very nice point!!! Looks like a Allen to me.... Normally clovis points are fluted more  dontknow
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Reply To This Topic #60 Posted Jun 02, 2010, 01:34:36 pm

Ran out to the site yesterday and found the base off of an super Graham cave point, of course it rained a ton last night so Thursday will see me there again!! walk
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Reply To This Topic #61 Posted Jun 02, 2010, 02:38:15 pm

I think you're on a winning streak!

Go man!

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Reply To This Topic #62 Posted Jun 07, 2010, 07:13:59 pm

Can anyone post a picture of an Allen point? I have no idea what that is. A collector came to my home and said he was not sure it was a Clovis after looking at it, he said he thought it maybe a type of Dalton.

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By the way, were you on the western bank of a creek when you found it?

Why does that matter?

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Reply To This Topic #64 Posted Jun 08, 2010, 07:18:49 am

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Reply To This Topic #65 Posted Jun 08, 2010, 01:02:27 pm

Very nice point!!! Looks like a Allen to me.... Normally clovis points are fluted more  dontknow

Can anyone post a picture of an Allen point? I have no idea what that is.  

This is an Allen point found in Kansas. Note the oblique flaking.

The flake scars are a little hard to make out on your photos, however there appears to be no oblique flaking which rules out Allen as the type.

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Reply To This Topic #66 Posted Jun 08, 2010, 01:34:41 pm

Thanks I guess that settles the Allen point theory. Still the question remains is it a Clovis? Help please!!

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Reply To This Topic #67 Posted Jun 08, 2010, 03:25:30 pm

wow...that is nice!
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Reply To This Topic #68 Posted Jun 12, 2010, 10:59:11 am

Made the last trip to the site today, corn is way too tall to see but a few feet. Did find a few pieces and I will post them later, but nothing really great. The surface hunting around here is about over till July when they turn up wheat fields or replant pasture ground.

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Reply To This Topic #69 Posted Jun 13, 2010, 03:44:40 pm

Found on the last look at the Clovis site this morning and the other day.
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Detector used Detector(s) Used - Graphite golf club shaft, and my eyes

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Bannered!
Double Fluted Clovis Point
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Reply To This Topic #70 Posted Jun 25, 2010, 07:01:21 pm

Can anyone I.D. these points above?

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Reply To This Topic #71 Posted Aug 19, 2010, 04:59:45 pm

CONGRATULATION'S !!!  notworthy notworthy notworthy notworthy notworthy notworthy    That is a beautiful point it look's Clovis to me  . I love the stone. I vote Banner
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Reply To This Topic #72 Posted Aug 19, 2010, 05:19:12 pm


I don't know what the center piece in the top picture was originally, but I'd bet it was spectacular.

Found on the last look at the Clovis site this morning and the other day.
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Reply To This Topic #73 Posted Aug 19, 2010, 05:40:20 pm

I agree that one would have been nice !!!
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Reply To This Topic #74 Posted Aug 19, 2010, 06:11:09 pm

Can anyone I.D. these points above?

In the top pic: Haskell(?), Sedalia(?), Snyders.
bottom pic: Cooper or Ferry/Helton, Apple Creek.

Matt Rowe



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