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Buchanan and Breckenridge Die Stamp! Never guessed I'd dig something this rare!

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Posted Jun 14, 2010, 07:49:31 am

Hey guys!
My friend and I were digging a Confederate camp that seems to be early war. My buddy managed a really awesome Va button. A couple hours later I got a sweet +74 on the MXT. Thinking it was a penny (it sounded like it was only about 2" down), I went to digging. There were no house sites in the area, and this was an isolated signal in the middle of some really old hardwoods. I'd dug a couple nails close by also. I got down to 4" and realized this was not the 2" Penny I thought it was gonna be. I kept on going, and at about 6" I turned over this plate. It's a Buchanan/Breckenridge Presidential Campaign stamp from 1856. I believe it is made of pewter...not positive, but I think so.
It measures 56mm X 45mm and is 4mm thick (about 2 1/8" X 1 3/4").
On the face is "The Constitution", and near the top it states "Buchanan" and "Breckenridge". Buchanan was our 15th President, and Breckenridge was his Vice President. So far no one has ever seen one before! I'm super excited to have dug this! You just never know do ya!!
Thanks for looking!
Tony "cumberlandgray" Hochstetler
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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Jun 14, 2010, 08:06:00 am

You forgot to post a photo of Buchanan's 1856 campaign ribbon which used the same printing plate:  

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That's one helluva find!


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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Jun 14, 2010, 08:35:48 am



  No one has seen one....   but who have you contacted?   It sure is something different than we're used to digging and seeing!

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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Jun 14, 2010, 01:33:53 pm

You forgot to post a photo of Buchanan's 1856 campaign ribbon which used the same printing plate:  

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That's one helluva find!


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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Jun 15, 2010, 11:05:25 am

Thats an INCREDIBLE find icon_thumleft icon_thumleft icon_thumleft icon_thumleft icon_thumleft headbang

As you know, Breckinridge became Buchanan's vice president when they won the election that fall and then seceeded from the Union and became a Lt. General in the Confederate States of America, and eventually Jeff Davis's Secretary of War for the Confederacy. headbang

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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Jun 15, 2010, 03:16:06 pm

such an awesome find there...rare in my books no matter how you look at it...
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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Jun 16, 2010, 07:05:14 am

You have found, and preserved, a great piece of American history.   
Why was it lost where it was lost?   Maybe some research will reveal that secret.   WTG!!!   thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Jun 16, 2010, 07:10:22 am

You obviously need to research further, and never, ever take the first offer. You may be pleasantly surprised with your results. Can you scan, then reverse? Is it made of thin lead? I'm gonna have to hit the Banner Button for this one.
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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Jun 16, 2010, 07:18:37 am

wow!

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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Jun 16, 2010, 07:30:08 am

I can reverse images on my PC hope this helps and really nice find  icon_thumleft Dd60
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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Jun 16, 2010, 09:53:47 am

WOW, that is an amazing find!  Getting some more info on it would be even better.  Keep us posted  icon_thumleft
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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Jun 16, 2010, 11:54:16 am

My Gawd!!!  Now THAT is freaking COOL!   notworthy
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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Jun 16, 2010, 11:55:18 am

Fantastic find...congrats.

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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Jun 16, 2010, 12:12:22 pm

Hey, you made the banner!!!! Good for you. Congratulations! hello2 hello2 hello2 wav occasion18 angel8 blob5 thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Jun 16, 2010, 01:08:39 pm

a big congrats to you on digging an amazing piece of history  thumbsup  thumbsup in the middle of some woods too...wow, hope you are able to get more info.   thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Jun 16, 2010, 01:11:41 pm

Holy Crap!! Thats Cool!!
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Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Jun 16, 2010, 01:24:38 pm

 Fantastic find. What a piece of history.   thumbsup
 What State was it found in?
 Congratulations !!
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Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Jun 16, 2010, 01:27:35 pm

That sure is an awesome find .
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Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Jun 16, 2010, 02:31:13 pm



                      Fantastic find, welcome to Treasure-Net by the way.   Grin

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Reply To This Topic #19 Posted Jun 16, 2010, 07:37:12 pm

OH MY!!!!!!!! UNREAL!!!!! Congratulations on a super rare piece! Welcome to the forum; I look forward to seeing more of your finds.  Breezie

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Reply To This Topic #20 Posted Jun 16, 2010, 09:01:17 pm

awesome

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Reply To This Topic #21 Posted Jun 17, 2010, 01:14:54 am

Congrats on the Banner find  icon_thumleft not bad at all ,real history  thumbsup Dd60

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Reply To This Topic #22 Posted Jun 17, 2010, 01:44:54 am

That is hands down the coolest find I have seen on this forum.  There have been lot's of nice pieces of history, very valuable finds etc, but NOTHING as unique as that.  Nice find.

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Reply To This Topic #23 Posted Jun 17, 2010, 06:50:47 am

Amazing find.  Congrats on banner. 

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Reply To This Topic #24 Posted Jun 17, 2010, 05:35:46 pm

Amazing find! Congrat's on the banner. icon_thumright
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Reply To This Topic #25 Posted Jun 17, 2010, 06:56:14 pm

I joined Cumberland on this dig and have reached out to the experts. None have come across one of these, which makes it one of a kind thus far. The curator at "President James Buchanan's Wheatland" in Lancaster has asked if we'd be willing to donate it.
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  " Never guessed I'd dig something this rare!"

   
   You never do, it just happens!  thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #27 Posted Jun 18, 2010, 05:58:40 am

I cant even imagine finding something that awesome !!!
Congrats on the banner !!

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Reply To This Topic #28 Posted Jun 18, 2010, 08:16:55 am

Just and idea........

if you do end up donating this item, you should go to a hobby store and buy some of that molding compound that is rubbery, and make a mold of this piece.  You could then replicate the item in resin so you would always have a replica.


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Reply To This Topic #29 Posted Jun 18, 2010, 09:54:06 am

Let's ink it and press it.  Nice piece.  Who would ever believe that would come out of the ground.  Way to go.  The reverse image helps see it.

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Reply To This Topic #30 Posted Jun 18, 2010, 11:39:40 am

ONE OF A KIND!! Gotta be banner!
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Reply To This Topic #31 Posted Jun 18, 2010, 01:13:09 pm

  icon_thumright I`m in tears icon_thumleft
     Nice piece of history.
Just a guess but did you find it in Ohio?

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Reply To This Topic #32 Posted Jun 18, 2010, 01:55:31 pm

Absolutely amazing. great find and congrats on making the banner.  Dean
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Reply To This Topic #33 Posted Jun 18, 2010, 03:52:34 pm

 icon_thumright I`m in tears icon_thumleft
     Nice piece of history.
Just a guess but did you find it in Ohio?

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It was found at a Confederate camp that sat along the railroad tracks near Richmond. Not sure if a train factors into this. We've found a few Union items out there but 98% Confederate. Can't begin to speculate what this dye plate was doing among all the bullets, I's, C's, A's, locals, etc., but interested in your theories. Congrats again to Cumberland for this fantastic find!
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Reply To This Topic #34 Posted Jun 19, 2010, 09:20:21 am

What an awesome and rare find...Please keep us posted with any updates with the who, when, what, and $$$.....
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Hey, you made the banner!!!! Good for you. Congratulations! hello2 hello2 hello2 wav occasion18 angel8 blob5 thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #36 Posted Jun 20, 2010, 11:30:26 am

That is one amazing find, just incredible
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Reply To This Topic #37 Posted Jun 21, 2010, 03:05:31 am

Fantastic, congrats on a rare find. thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #38 Posted Jun 22, 2010, 06:13:04 pm

Fantastic, congrats on a rare find. thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #39 Posted Jun 23, 2010, 07:40:33 am

If it is "one of a kind" then you know it's the same exact die that made that campaign ribbon and not "one like it"...which is friggin cool.

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Reply To This Topic #40 Posted Jun 23, 2010, 01:14:23 pm

I would contact the Abraham Bookshop in Chicago.  they are on the web.  Dan Weinberg the owner and a super nice guy who specializes in political memorabilia

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Reply To This Topic #41 Posted Jun 24, 2010, 05:30:46 pm

I would contact the Abraham Bookshop in Chicago.  they are on the web.  Dan Weinberg the owner and a super nice guy who specializes in political memorabilia

Thanks for the lead, Ronbo. They've been great.
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Reply To This Topic #42 Posted Jul 05, 2010, 08:05:39 am

Very nice.. WTG!!!
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Reply To This Topic #43 Posted Aug 01, 2010, 08:02:54 am

Very cool artifact
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