Found Another Great Looking Pipe

Well, I just found my 4th Pipe in the last year and a half and it's another dandy. It's got a small nick out of the bowl, but other than that it is very nice and very nicely made. It is a fine grained sandstone that has been very highly polished and is very smooth. It is a yellowish sandstone with a nice reddish tint to it as you will see in the pictures. It also has a nice little groove cut into it that seperates the stem from the bowl. I made sure to clean it out over a bowl and the bottom of the bowl was full of a black burnt substance that I saved in a baggie. I'm going to give it to an Archy friend of mine as sson as I see him. I didn't find much else, but then who's complaining. lol

Enjoy the pictures. The first few are the in situs and the ones from the field and on my leg in the car. The other are after I cleaned it at home. I tried to get a picture down into the bowl and down the stem but I'm not sure if they turned out well enough to show up here. You can see the gouging inside the bowl to make it bigger and you can see where they drilled so far into the stem with one sixe and then went to a smaller size to finish the hole. If you look close you can just see the line inside the stem.

Another banner lurking.Awesome.
Newt

Steve,

Awesome find!  It's cool vote for two banners in one day.

Joshua

VERY cool Steve you lucky dog.Unique looking pipe too. That camp kicks out some amazing stuff. Congrats for sure. Maybe you could group up your pipes and let us have a look.

Very nice!  and I think it's as banner worthy as the game piece. I like the things that give insight to human nature. 4 pipes already? I'm actually looking for pipes now. don't know if I have a chance at one, but I'm looking

congrats on a awesome pipe!! I never found a whole one yet. 

Another great find Steve, congrats..

Molly.

Very nice pipe, congrats on that find.

 Great pipe! Very nice insitus, thanks for the look.H.H

Really sweet insets!
Is that a nick or an intentional detail?
Looks phallic in one shot.

Nice find

Super Pipe Steve.

Well deserved too.

Joel

Awsome! That is one of the best insitus yet with the moss and all. Hate it you did not find much else  I found a bunch of flakes myself yesterday !! Nice stone pipe!! You should have lit it up to determine what it was . Great find Steve.
TnMtns

Nice pipe.  Good luck on your quest to find another.

Awsome! That is one of the best insitus yet with the moss and all. Hate it you did not find much else  I found a bunch of flakes myself yesterday !! Nice stone pipe!! You should have lit it up to determine what it was . Great find Steve.
TnMtns

Nice!
Newt

Really sweet insets!
Is that a nick or an intentional detail?
Looks phallic in one shot.

Nice find

The nick is definitely a break. If you look closely you can see that it occurred at the thinnest part of the bowl. I also noticed the Phallic look when looked at from the bottom. I don't know if that was done purposefully or if it's just a coincidence, but it may just be another Effigy Pipe.


Thanks everyone. I appreciate the comments.

I did find out it was one of my good friends brother that had walked past it. He had been out there earlier that morning. I feel bad for him, but I feel great about me finding it.

hey steve way way cool!
you are very lucky to find 4 pipes
i hope i can find a pipe some day
you deserve to have it
we all know you will proudly display it
banner for sure
lars

VERY cool Steve you lucky dog.Unique looking pipe too. That camp kicks out some amazing stuff. Congrats for sure. Maybe you could group up your pipes and let us have a look.

Here's some group shots of all my Pipes. I have found all of them but 2 and those are the two dark Pipestone examples. I got the bigger Elbow from a farmer in Adams county Ohio and the little one was dug out of a midden by a guy I know and he gave it to me along with everything else from the midden. It was found along the Ohio River near Wheelersburg, Ohio.

The first two pictures are the 4 Pipes from the same site and the other pictures are of all my Pipes and one smaller one and a piece of an Effigy Pipe.

excellent relic steve,&great insitu.

that is a great collection of pipes!!! hope to find 1 of my own someday. thanks for sharing .

Heck of a find Steve. I think that's the first pipe insitu I've seen, nice one man.

Steve,

From the bottom view I would definitely say it's a phalic effigy pipe.  There are more than a few examples of that kind of art in pre-historic America.  Very cool find.  I have yet to find one but it's on my list.   

Hippy

Thanks for the group shot Steve, you have gathered up some dandies. Great looking pics.

Thats some good stuff you have found! Thanks for sharing. How close to Scioto Co. Oh. are you?

nice finds steve

great find!!! those are some dope A$$ pipes guys...hahaha 

[How close to Scioto Co. Oh. are you?]

Thats some good stuff you have found! Thanks for sharing. How close to Scioto Co. Oh. are you?

Pretty much right smack in the middle of it. lol

I say Banner!
Really nice pipe collection.

Sheesh man!  You are killing me!  Really neat artifact.  Congrats man.

Chuck

Steve,, You did it again.  You dont see many people finding pipes, and you my friend are all over it.  I would give it a banner.... It has several votes and deserves to be up top.  You and Lars just got me pumped up, I'm ready to leave the baby and do some huntN. I'm gonna ring the ole banner button for ya. Congrats..... John

For the people like myself who have no clue why this is on the banner, Can someone please explain..... thank you

Congratulations on making the banner Steve! These are some great looking artifacts and believe that it's well justified in your pipe having made the banner.

This item was democratically voted on by the Treasurenet community as having enough historical interest to validate it's being posted on the banner. Does it really matter whether an object is found in the ground with a metal detector or with the naked eye?! The fact is that it was lost possibly hundreds of years ago and was honestly found and recovered by a person that has the fortitude to look down when they're walking instead of only straight ahead!

Very nice pipe and congratz on making the banner!!

Congrats on banner man...awesome find.

Congratulations on making the banner Steve! These are some great looking artifacts and believe that it's well justified in your pipe having made the banner.

This item was democratically voted on by the Treasurenet community as having enough historical interest to validate it's being posted on the banner. Does it really matter whether an object is found in the ground with a metal detector or with the naked eye?! The fact is that it was lost possibly hundreds of years ago and was honestly found and recovered by a person that has the fortitude to look down when they're walking instead of only straight ahead!

I'm getting kind tired of answers that sound rude an IG no rant when I ask why it is on the banner... No one EVER explains who made the item how rare they are or what makes it so special to be on the banner... if People can READ my post I said I have no clue why this is on the banner, Can someone please explain Not everyone knows about artifacts..so before you belittle someone for questioning a find maybe you should explain or at least ask why they are asking... Instead of assuming I am complaining cause it's not a detector find which ISN'T THE CASE...  Maybe a lil patience an education about the find would be better then the answer above...

For the people like myself who have no clue why this is on the banner, Can someone please explain..... thank you

The item is a pipe that was made by the Fort Ancient culture which inhabited portions of the Ohio River Valley around Ohio, Kentucky, West Virginia, and some of Indiana.  In regards to age of the artifact it's probably anywhere between 400 to 700 years old and used for the same reasons we use pipes today.  As Steve said, it's made of fine grained sandstone and was formed by pecking with a harder rock, polishing, and drilling/gouging the stem and bowl holes.  Sandstone was a common pipe making material in the later cultures becasue it was easy to work and somewhat durable.

If you google "Fort Ancient Culture" you can get a much better insight to who the people were that are making these kinds of pipes.  There's all sorts of info available to someone who's interested in knowing more about them.

Hippy

For the people like myself who have no clue why this is on the banner, Can someone please explain..... thank you

The item is a pipe that was made by the Fort Ancient culture which inhabited portions of the Ohio River Valley around Ohio, Kentucky, West Virginia, and some of Indiana.  In regards to age of the artifact it's probably anywhere between 400 to 700 years old and used for the same reasons we use pipes today.  As Steve said, it's made of fine grained sandstone and was formed by pecking with a harder rock, polishing, and drilling/gouging the stem and bowl holes.  Sandstone was a common pipe making material in the later cultures becasue it was easy to work and somewhat durable.

If you google "Fort Ancient Culture" you can get a much better insight to who the people were that are making these kinds of pipes.  There's all sorts of info available to someone who's interested in knowing more about them.

Hippy

Thank you for taking the time to explain this to me an others who read your post who had no clue about the item.....

I'm getting kind tired of answers that sound rude an IG no rant when I ask why it is on the banner... No one EVER explains who made the item how rare they are or what makes it so special to be on the banner... if People can READ my post I said I have no clue why this is on the banner, Can someone please explain Not everyone knows about artifacts..so before you belittle someone for questioning a find maybe you should explain or at least ask why they are asking... Instead of assuming I am complaining cause it's not a detector find which ISN'T THE CASE...  Maybe a lil patience an education about the find would be better then the answer above...

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There are Several posts here explaining
how the Banner works

one here:

http://forum.treasurenet.com/banner
If link dossn't work, Hit
? on the banner

& even a how Not to get a banner from me

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index....933.msg2400369.html#new

Of course Every Banner Report & Every
Item that makes it was put there for a reason,
But I Certainly Am not going to Explain Myself.
Too Time consuming.

If others wish to explain why they voted it
That's their prerogative.

& no I Am not trying to be rude, Just a bit Confused
by the Questioning Lately.

Which Definately dosn't belong in Finds Posts.

Cool Pipe  SRV !

I'm getting kind tired of answers that sound rude an IG no rant when I ask why it is on the banner... No one EVER explains who made the item how rare they are or what makes it so special to be on the banner... if People can READ my post I said I have no clue why this is on the banner, Can someone please explain Not everyone knows about artifacts..so before you belittle someone for questioning a find maybe you should explain or at least ask why they are asking... Instead of assuming I am complaining cause it's not a detector find which ISN'T THE CASE...  Maybe a lil patience an education about the find would be better then the answer above...

There are Several posts here explaining
how the Banner works

one here:

http://forum.treasurenet.com/banner
If link dossn't work, Hit
? on the banner

& even a how Not to get a banner from me

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index....hp/topic,332933.msg2400369.html#new

Of course Every Banner Report & Every
Item that makes it was put there for a reason,
But I Certainly Am not going to Explain Myself.
Too Time consuming.

If others wish to explain why they voted it
That's their prerogative.

& no I Am not trying to be rude, Just a bit Confused
by the Questioning Lately.

Which Definately dosn't belong in Finds Posts.

Cool Pipe  SRV !

I am not saying it should or shouldn't be on the banner Jeff... I was asking what makes it banner worthy.. I have zero knowledge of Indain artifacts... so to me an others who just look at banner finds an don't normally come into this forum it looks like a run of the mill old stone pipe.... So far HIPPY was the only person to explain what the item is an why it's so important.... Which I did thank him for his time for explaining....

Another wonderful piece of history saved  Congrats on the Banner , one question ? what determines whether that pipe is American Native or just a early settlers pipe 
Great find Dd60

I am not saying it should or shouldn't be on the banner Jeff...

yea i understood that

Great find!!I too didnt know the who's of this fantastic artifact,and thank you Creeper for bringing that up,but I think the "edgyness',stems from a recent comment about "pipes",being on the banner,which I could not dis agree with more.I would much rather have found an item such as this one,up there than a coin that was still in circulation when many of our grandparents were young.

A pipe of this size and condition--even with the chip in the bowl--is WELL deserving of the Banner!

That artifact would be the Centerpiece of Anyone's collection.   


Cheers,


Buckles

Great find!!I too didnt know the who's of this fantastic artifact,and thank you Creeper for bringing that up,but I think the "edgyness',stems from a recent comment about "pipes",being on the banner,which I could not dis agree with more.I would much rather have found an item such as this one,up there than a coin that was still in circulation when many of our grandparents were young.

Your welcome Kuger, All I wanted to know was exactly what it was an why it was on the banner... then a few seemed to attck me for questioning a find I have no knowledge of... You can't learn about something if no one would be willing to teach or answer questions you have about something... I do give Hippy alot of credit for posting a very good informative post to help us understand how special this find is...

Great find!!I too didnt know the who's of this fantastic artifact,and thank you Creeper for bringing that up,but I think the "edgyness',stems from a recent comment about "pipes",being on the banner,which I could not dis agree with more.I would much rather have found an item such as this one,up there than a coin that was still in circulation when many of our grandparents were young.

Your welcome Kuger, All I wanted to know was exactly what it was an why it was on the banner... then a few seemed to attck me for questioning a find I have no knowledge of... You can't learn about something if no one would be willing to teach or answer questions you have about something... I do give Hippy alot of credit for posting a very good informative post to help us understand how special this find is...

 

Great find!!I too didnt know the who's of this fantastic artifact,and thank you Creeper for bringing that up,but I think the "edgyness',stems from a recent comment about "pipes",being on the banner,which I could not dis agree with more.I would much rather have found an item such as this one,up there than a coin that was still in circulation when many of our grandparents were young.

I guess to put this in terms of coin shooting or some other hobby it would be like finding a 1916D merc or something similar.  It has a pretty good value probably anywhere from $300 to $500 to give some sort of perspective.  Unlike coins though, no two of these are alike which makes the value very subjective. 

It's not everybody's ball of wax but because they are so rare to find they're very deserving of a banner.  Steve makes some fantastic finds and it's good to see some rocks on the banner every once in a while.

Hippy

Thanks Hippy,I am a rock picker from way back,and to me those types of artifacts are the oldest history I can find in my neck of the woods

First off, thanks to everyone who voted for this to be on the Banner. I really appreciate the votes. I was wondering if it would make it because of the slight damage, but since finding one is a very rare occurrence I figured it probably would. I have another Pipe that made the Banner when I found it last year and that is the bigger one that is slightly curved and has the mouth incised in it.

As for why it's on the Banner, like I said above, finding a Pipe is something that doesn't happen a lot. I have just been very lucky in the past couple of years and have found a few nice ones. Also, for the ones that don't know much about an item like this I guess I should have explained it a little better, but in my defense when I post something like this on the American Indian Artifact board I just figure that everyone here will know what it is and what is was used for because of seeing all my other posts. I don't even think about it making the Banner and having people from every forum see it and that some of them have no clue about items like this.

For those that want to learn a little more about the Ft Ancient culture of southern Ohio check out this link. The particular site this Pipe came from is dated 950 to 1650 AD, as are most of the Ft Ancient sites in my area.

http://www.arrowheadology.com/the-f...-ancient-culture-950-ad-to-1650-ad/

I hope this helps everyone out and thanks again.

First off, thanks to everyone who voted for this to be on the Banner. I really appreciate the votes. I was wondering if it would make it because of the slight damage, but since finding one is a very rare occurrence I figured it probably would. I have another Pipe that made the Banner when I found it last year and that is the bigger one that is slightly curved and has the mouth incised in it.

As for why it's on the Banner, like I said above, finding a Pipe is something that doesn't happen a lot. I have just been very lucky in the past couple of years and have found a few nice ones. Also, for the ones that don't know much about an item like this I guess I should have explained it a little better, but in my defense when I post something like this on the American Indian Artifact board I just figure that everyone here will know what it is and what is was used for because of seeing all my other posts. I don't even think about it making the Banner and having people from every forum see it and that some of them have no clue about items like this.

For those that want to learn a little more about the Ft Ancient culture of southern Ohio check out this link. The particular site this Pipe came from is dated 950 to 1650 AD, as are most of the Ft Ancient sites in my area.

http://www.arrowheadology.com/the-f...-ancient-culture-950-ad-to-1650-ad/

I hope this helps everyone out and thanks again.

I think you did good man. I wouldn't worry about not explaining what it is everytime you post an item. If anyone wants details they can ask in an nonrude manner.  Awesome find

First off, thanks to everyone who voted for this to be on the Banner. I really appreciate the votes. I was wondering if it would make it because of the slight damage, but since finding one is a very rare occurrence I figured it probably would. I have another Pipe that made the Banner when I found it last year and that is the bigger one that is slightly curved and has the mouth incised in it.

As for why it's on the Banner, like I said above, finding a Pipe is something that doesn't happen a lot. I have just been very lucky in the past couple of years and have found a few nice ones. Also, for the ones that don't know much about an item like this I guess I should have explained it a little better, but in my defense when I post something like this on the American Indian Artifact board I just figure that everyone here will know what it is and what is was used for because of seeing all my other posts. I don't even think about it making the Banner and having people from every forum see it and that some of them have no clue about items like this.

For those that want to learn a little more about the Ft Ancient culture of southern Ohio check out this link. The particular site this Pipe came from is dated 950 to 1650 AD, as are most of the Ft Ancient sites in my area.

http://www.arrowheadology.com/the-f...-ancient-culture-950-ad-to-1650-ad/

I hope this helps everyone out and thanks again.

I think you did good man. I wouldn't worry about not explaining what it is everytime you post an item. If anyone wants details they can ask in an nonrude manner.  Awesome find

SRV you did well!! I wasn't criticizing you for not explaining, I just was wondering why it was on the banner an was hoping to get a civil an knowledgeable answer..... but got a half smartas.... answer... Hippy thank you for more info about this find. Now to the post I just quoted... I asked in a polite manner an received a rude answer in return.. thank you for your time.....

Wtg Steve! Those don't come around very often at all!

Congratulations on making the banner Steve! These are some great looking artifacts and believe that it's well justified in your pipe having made the banner.

This item was democratically voted on by the Treasurenet community as having enough historical interest to validate it's being posted on the banner. Does it really matter whether an object is found in the ground with a metal detector or with the naked eye?! The fact is that it was lost possibly hundreds of years ago and was honestly found and recovered by a person that has the fortitude to look down when they're walking instead of only straight ahead!

I'm getting kind tired of answers that sound rude an IG no rant when I ask why it is on the banner... No one EVER explains who made the item how rare they are or what makes it so special to be on the banner... if People can READ my post I said I have no clue why this is on the banner, Can someone please explain Not everyone knows about artifacts..so before you belittle someone for questioning a find maybe you should explain or at least ask why they are asking... Instead of assuming I am complaining cause it's not a detector find which ISN'T THE CASE...  Maybe a lil patience an education about the find would be better then the answer above...

Creeper71, please let me apologize for my earlier posting in reference to your question regarding "exactly what the item was and why it was on the banner"? I misunderstood the intention of your posted question and I sincerely apologize to you for responding in the manner that I did.

Congratulations on making the banner Steve! These are some great looking artifacts and believe that it's well justified in your pipe having made the banner.

This item was democratically voted on by the Treasurenet community as having enough historical interest to validate it's being posted on the banner. Does it really matter whether an object is found in the ground with a metal detector or with the naked eye?! The fact is that it was lost possibly hundreds of years ago and was honestly found and recovered by a person that has the fortitude to look down when they're walking instead of only straight ahead!

I'm getting kind tired of answers that sound rude an IG no rant when I ask why it is on the banner... No one EVER explains who made the item how rare they are or what makes it so special to be on the banner... if People can READ my post I said I have no clue why this is on the banner, Can someone please explain Not everyone knows about artifacts..so before you belittle someone for questioning a find maybe you should explain or at least ask why they are asking... Instead of assuming I am complaining cause it's not a detector find which ISN'T THE CASE...  Maybe a lil patience an education about the find would be better then the answer above...

Creeper71, please let me apologize for my earlier posting in reference to your question regarding "exactly what the item was and why it was on the banner"? I misunderstood the intention of your posted question and I sincerely apologize to you for responding in the manner that I did.

It's kool..thank you for correcting what you said earlier... Your first post really rubbed me the wrong way cause i got the same response to the question why the game piece was on the Banner earlier in the week, like I stated before I have no knowledge of Indain artifacts so when something is on the banner an there is no history of the item ..I think it is a vaild question to ask why it's on the banner....... SRV I'm sorry I took from your find....

 I have been hunting ancient artifacts for about 35 years. I find broken pipes and bits and pieces. They are so fragile and rarely survive time. That insitu tells it all. A very nice find and banner item. Something like this is hard to research but Steve knows the site and the materials that come out of it. We are guilty of taking this ancient america for granted. If you will notice there are very many post made here and if you stop by every know and then you can learn a lot if interested. Steve and his fort ancient sites ....
Good job and fire that puppy up and play some of the ancient bone flutes you find 
Celebrate !
TnMtns

Really sweet insets!
Is that a nick or an intentional detail?
Looks phallic in one shot.

Nice find

The nick is definitely a break. If you look closely you can see that it occurred at the thinnest part of the bowl. I also noticed the Phallic look when looked at from the bottom. I don't know if that was done purposefully or if it's just a coincidence, but it may just be another Effigy Pipe.


Thanks everyone. I appreciate the comments.

I did find out it was one of my good friends brother that had walked past it. He had been out there earlier that morning. I feel bad for him, but I feel great about me finding it.

Well done on the Banner.

I know very little about these type of finds, so what sort of age is it?

I can't help but think that this was intentional.

       Some other great looking stone pipes

http://semo.craigslist.org/clt/1819034549.html

       Some other great looking stone pipes

http://semo.craigslist.org/clt/1819034549.html

We had a discussion on those Pipes a little while back and we concluded they were probably all reproductions. They were posted on a few different artifact boards and most everyone thought they were modern.

There are Several posts here explaining how the Banner works
one here:
http://forum.treasurenet.com/banner
Of course Every Banner Report & Every Item that makes it was put there for a reason,But I Certainly Am not going to Explain Myself.Too Time consuming.

If others wish to explain why they voted it That's their prerogative.

& no I Am not trying to be rude, Just a bit Confused by the Questioning Lately.

Which Definately dosn't belong in Finds Posts.

Cool Pipe  SRV !

Thanks Jeff for the link, I did not know either where to find information about the banner. 
Which Definately dosn't belong in Finds Posts.[/
Where then Jeff?

Another wonderful piece of history saved  Congrats on the Banner , one question ? what determines whether that pipe is American Native or just a early settlers pipe 
Great find Dd60

Tobacco came out of the Americas where it was a native plant.  It was seen that natives smoked tobacco in pipes in the 15th century, and pipes were made in Europe in the start of the 16th century.  As far as I know there were no pipes made from stone, they were made here from clay.  I would think after seeing this relic that it is not European, even crude pipes that I have seen here are different.  I think it is an a American Native pipe (but could be from all of the Americas back then.  Would image it is from the 15th century.  But I am not an expert in this field....

  Hay Steve , Great find !! Really nice insitu , looks as if it's been laying there for some time . Anyway , another nice piece for a great collection !
                                                          Blindpig