Virginia 1-PIECE Button!

[UPDATE]

This one was a BIG surprise.  Josh and I were after the 4th H.M.A. today and I got the button signal....  I dig the plug and for some reason, this thing pinpointed WAY off.  It was a good 4 inches or more to the left of where it seemed .  To clean it, I used 4 or 5 wetted cotton swabs and gently rubbed them over the surface to remove most of the dirt.  Then I thinly layered my finger with mineral oil and brushed it over the surface, highlighting the highest points.  I intentionally left some of the dirt to help bring out the detail.

UPDATE- The Button is the 1B listed in Bramblefind's reply (#7) below.. the only example I could find of the 1B online is listed in the link, item # cs112, over halfway down the page.. it's pretty beat up, but the same variant.

http://www.civilwarbuttons.com/csstatelist.htm



Dirty VA 1-Piece




Backmark reads "PHILADA", made by George Armitage in Philadelphia between 1815-1825

Magnificent cleaning job! Patina intact and looks stunning!

That's one of the coolest buttons I've seen. Nice detail and patina. 

Hope it turns out to be special. 

[EIGHT]

Yep, it was nice to see that Early Virginia Militia button pop out today.  Sure beats the EIGHT Eagle "A's" that I dug today YES EIGHT!!!!!!!!   I had a good time and the rain definitely helped pop the signals....we'll get back to it tomorrow

P.S.  It's a guess, but I think Horstmann may have made this button as they were in Philadelphia in their first stage from  1820-1850.

 

          Ho-Hum just another great digging day in VA. Great early button Jeff and congrats Josh on the "A" buttons. I have never dug anything but Eagle GS buttons and one Eagle Dragoon button. These early war sites suck compared to VA sites. You guys have a great site-hunt it out. Stay cool, Quindy.

    Ahh,  it wasn't an H.M.A. , just an early Va. Militia button .       I like that  one ,     a lot            A  Banner button find !! 

very cool button, Jeff, very cool!

That one gorgeous button!!

Here is a page from Albert's book - is it VA 1A?  I'm a button novice  - just fortunate enough to have picked up this book long ago.

You're making us all jealous.

GREAT BUTTON!

Nice ID, Bramblefind!  And a STUNNING RV50 button there!  

I have never seen one of these dug before, and with an RV number like that, I can imagine why.  

Get that post up, Josh--I wanna see those Eagle A's!  

Awesome button.
Congrats
Dman

Oh that's right, George Armitage made buttons out of Philly too.  That's the maker

That is one nice cleaned up button.  On day I hope to find any CSA button.

I was also surprised that your signal was was 4" off to the left, you would think with the southern politics it would have been 4" to the right 

Nice ID, Bramblefind!  And a STUNNING RV50 button there!  

I have never seen one of these dug before, and with an RV number like that, I can imagine why.  

Get that post up, Josh--I wanna see those Eagle A's!  

Can someone please explain what RV number means? thank you!!

Nice ID, Bramblefind!  And a STUNNING RV50 button there!  

I have never seen one of these dug before, and with an RV number like that, I can imagine why.  

Get that post up, Josh--I wanna see those Eagle A's!  

Can someone please explain what RV number means? thank you!!

I was about to ask the same thing.. just googled it, nothing     .... thank you all for the compliments and replies

Incredible piece of history golf   I never get tired of reading these posts.

Nice ID, Bramblefind!  And a STUNNING RV50 button there!  

I have never seen one of these dug before, and with an RV number like that, I can imagine why.  

Get that post up, Josh--I wanna see those Eagle A's!  

Can someone please explain what RV number means? thank you!!

I was about to ask the same thing.. just googled it, nothing     .... thank you all for the compliments and replies

heck I thought you would have known what RV meant... Jeff,btw 1200.00 for a button? GOODLORD DAT'S ALOTTA MONEY!!!!

Nice ID, Bramblefind!  And a STUNNING RV50 button there!  

I have never seen one of these dug before, and with an RV number like that, I can imagine why.  

Get that post up, Josh--I wanna see those Eagle A's!  

Can someone please explain what RV number means? thank you!!

I was about to ask the same thing.. just googled it, nothing     .... thank you all for the compliments and replies

RV means Rare Value

That's a Great Piece of History ! It's got a Banner nomination from Me  Congrats
BB

Jeff you are the man. That is a beautiful button.

Great find Even better than gold coin as it has more history attached to it.

Another banner find!!

You and Josh need your own Banner Jeff.......Keep em' comin' baby 

Great find, congrats. Wish it would cool off and rain so I could pop some relics out of the ground in TN.

Nice ID, Bramblefind!  And a STUNNING RV50 button there!  

I have never seen one of these dug before, and with an RV number like that, I can imagine why.  

Get that post up, Josh--I wanna see those Eagle A's!  

Can someone please explain what RV number means? thank you!!

I was about to ask the same thing.. just googled it, nothing     .... thank you all for the compliments and replies

RV means Rare Value

alright we're almost there now what does the 50 mean? is there some type of rating scale or only 50 known buttons?

Nice ID, Bramblefind!  And a STUNNING RV50 button there!  

I have never seen one of these dug before, and with an RV number like that, I can imagine why.  

Get that post up, Josh--I wanna see those Eagle A's!  

Can someone please explain what RV number means? thank you!!

I was about to ask the same thing.. just googled it, nothing     .... thank you all for the compliments and replies

RV means Rare Value

alright we're almost there now what does the 50 mean? is there some type of rating scale or only 50 known buttons?

I'm not sure exactly what it means creeper, hopefully someone can specify.. Either way, I appreciate the banner votes and compliments.  Never would have thought it was the earliest of the VA buttons.

Bramblefind, to answer your question.. Mine is the 1B with single swirl

awesome find .. that is super duper rare  button ..vera nice .........

WOW amazing button 

I agree with civil1, you guys are going to have to have your own banner!  Amazing find Jeff and your 8 Artilleries isn't to shabby either Josh.  WTG guys, you are tearing em' up.

The RV50 means "Relative Value" of the button.  This was an estimated value that Albert put on the buttons in his book back in 1976.  This was based on a button being in fine condition and the scarcity of the button.  So with it being almost 35 yrs. since that book has been put out I would say that your excellent button there would have a relative value of a lot more.  He does state that badly worn, damaged, or excavated specimens have less value, but we know that a scarce button like this would have high dollar written all over it in almost any condition!  BTW, this info. is in Albert's book on page 8.

Again great finds guys!
Larry  

I agree with civil1, you guys are going to have to have your own banner!  Amazing find Jeff and your 8 Artilleries isn't to shabby either Josh.  WTG guys, you are tearing em' up.

The RV50 means "Relative Value" of the button.  This was an estimated value that Albert put on the buttons in his book back in 1976.  This was based on a button being in fine condition and the scarcity of the button.  So with it being almost 35 yrs. since that book has been put out I would say that your excellent button there would have a relative value of a lot more.  He does state that badly worn, damaged, or excavated specimens have less value, but we know that a scarce button like this would have high dollar written all over it in almost any condition!  BTW, this info. is in Albert's book on page 8.

Again great finds guys!
Larry  

Thanks for that info Ironman, that should clear up mine and creeper's question

SELL! No wait........Let me think  I'd keep it, because I could never sell any of MY finds .     Congrats  UMR!      Hogge

 


WOW... You guys did it again... A true relic with rarity beyond whats represented in the books.

Thanks for bringing this to the surface for all of us to enjoy. Keep it up !!

Be Well.

P.S.
BANNER for sure...

Jeff and Josh, the duo known as the J-Team, have been killing it and killing it...over and over again!  Man, Jeff, that button is beautiful.  I have never seen two diggers dig so much over the amount of time you two have dug.  Amazing!

Jeff and Josh, the duo known as the J-Team, have been killing it and killing it...over and over again!  Man, Jeff, that button is beautiful.  I have never seen two diggers dig so much over the amount of time you two have dug.  Amazing!

Amen to that entire paragraph! The J-Team is where the Colonial happenings are happening this year. You guys are rocking Tnet! Say hi to Josh for me, man. Take care!

Kirk

Sweet!

Wow you guys are on a sweet site. Keep us posted. Congrats 

wow you guys sure found one sweet spot down there. 
Grats on all the sweet buttons, keep em coming.

What a beautiful button congratulations 

That's one of the coolest buttons I've seen. Nice detail and patina. 

Hope it turns out to be special. 

I knew it, I just knew it. 

My banner vote is in. 

That's one of the coolest buttons I've seen. Nice detail and patina. 

Hope it turns out to be special. 

I knew it, I just knew it. 

My banner vote is in. 

thanks man, i appreciate that.. Thanks to all who took time to reply and compliment.. Headin back in the AM to try and sneak one more good button.

Sweet button once again! Digging some fine history down there.
Vote is in.

Sweet button once again! Digging some fine history down there.
Vote is in.

thanks pepperj, would like to see this one up there myself.. Pretty unique

Holy MaMolly, way to go!

JRich

Extraordinary find  its condition's is unbelievable beautiful green patina your in the honey hole of rarity .That has to make Banner  Great hunt Dd60

Very nice find. 

Sweet button! Congrats!

Ok guys!! That is enough!!! ;-)

I've seen some "VA1b"s dug but that is the first VA1a!! Outstanding!! 

Banner!

MB

oh ya!! that is one sweet button.  willy

I sent you a PM yesterday.  HH .... Bill

Field of Dreams, baby!
You are killing us out here in Denver, please continue to do so.
Carl

I sent you a PM yesterday.  HH .... Bill

Hey Bill, I replied to your post "recently reached a milestone..." on May 17th, a couple weeks before I started finding 1600's coins, the poesy ring, and rare buttons.  No response?  HH to you as well.  Jeff

Wow!

You are one of my favorite relic diggers this year Jeff!
Keep up the great work!

Hit em straight!   

Yeah, I think that anyone, even new diggers who don't know much about CIVIL WAR relics and buttons, can tell that this VA is a rare beauty that deserves some recognition

not another mankie button on the banner - booo

          Congrats on another Banner Jeff!!! HH, Quindy in HOT & MUGGY Tennessee.

Congrats on Banner. Also in hot and muggy Tennessee.

congrats on making the banner and that wonderful button !

You guys are the freakin' button GOD'S!!!!Way to do it guys!!!

Congratulations once again on an incredible find Jeff and on getting the banner AGAIN! The finds just keep getting better and better for you don't they. What are you going to find next General Washington's gold teeth! Oh, sorry they were made of wood, I forgot If it was me man. . . I'd sell . . . I only keep what have too, otherwise it starts to pile up.  

The patina is fantastic!

nice button ...congrats for the banner

again? i don't know  how you guys do it? absolutely amazing and gorgeous button! a HUGE pat on the back!

BANNER!!!!

The J-Team is setting a banner record this year, Jeff Man!   Another well-deserved nomination!

again? i don't know  how you guys do it? absolutely amazing and gorgeous button! a HUGE pat on the back!

Lots and LOTS of hours of digging, knocking, and site searching!     


Love that Virginia Button again Jeff,  I know we were hoping for another but no joy but not for a lack of trying or digging.   When its Hot as  , you'll find US

Diggin and recoverin' the "good" stuff

OK, Banner Boys--

Move Over and let some other folks have some banner time, ok?   


 

Yeh ,  Uh huh  

I think this takes the spot as my favorite button posted on T-net!!! I have gone back and looked at this post more then any other!!! Love the Virginia relics!!

MB

I just want to congratulate you not only on this find but mostly for not ruining it by over-cleaning.

Rarely are these relics cleaned the right way.

Badger

I would like to personally congratulate a group of local hunters for figuring out where our site is/was   Next time you send out "your people" to do your dirty work, try not to make it so obvious.  Josh and I have NEVER asked anyone to accompany them to sites where they're finding nice things.  It's etiquette.  After failed attempts by this group, they've done their homework and located the spot   Good luck and try not to get too frustrated when you're out there and can't get a signal.

This is when I would like your gun laws

Great button!! Is that button larger than most CW buttons? I was at the Museum of the Confederacy last week in Richmond drooling over all their stuff, when I noticed that some of the VA uniforms contained some huge buttons, but they appeared to be of a two pieced construction, not a cast one, like yours.

Sorry to hear that some one is skunk-dogging your site!! That is the worst of the worst! Hopefully Karma will drop a big dump on them. Or someone will kick their ass!! Either one would suffice, but both would be even better.

Continued success and congrats on another Banner! BTW..if you can get to Richmond...check out the Museum of the Confederacy. It will rock your world!!
    Sneaky6

You sir are a button magnet.

I would like to personally congratulate a group of local hunters for figuring out where our site is/was   Next time you send out "your people" to do your dirty work, try not to make it so obvious.  Josh and I have NEVER asked anyone to accompany them to sites where they're finding nice things.  It's etiquette.  After failed attempts by this group, they've done their homework and located the spot   Good luck and try not to get too frustrated when you're out there and can't get a signal.

This is when I would like your gun laws

Yeap, shoot any and every thing that moves. 

I hate a bunch of --deleted--s. 

I would like to personally congratulate a group of local hunters for figuring out where our site is/was  Next time you send out "your people" to do your dirty work, try not to make it so obvious.  Josh and I have NEVER asked anyone to accompany them to sites where they're finding nice things.  It's etiquette.  After failed attempts by this group, they've done their homework and located the spot  Good luck and try not to get too frustrated when you're out there and can't get a signal.

This is when I would like your gun laws

Yeap, shoot any and every thing that moves.  

I hate a bunch of --deleted--s.  

Yes, these persons/person are SLICK Willys and have several "methods" that I'm no stranger to having seen them in the past.....Some of which include sending people

Incognito  We're no fools   and it takes alot better than that if you're going to try to get one over on me or Jeff.  It's

just really unbelievable what some people will do and the lengths they will go to to try and locate other peoples' Sites

 First of all congratulations on your button. She is a beauty !! Very fine shape and great recovery.
  It always makes me sick how low some people will go to find a persons hunting grounds. It has kept me from sharing things..on here. Now go back and give them a million signals to dig. 

Congrats on the great button find!

I agree, time for a set up for your "friends".

Ok, this is the last time I'll respond to this thread people  I just wanted to come back and apologize to a couple individuals who felt like I implied they had something to do with the thieving.  Nevertheless, the site will be crawling with other folks soon.  Like I said in the last reply, have at it.

Lastly, I wanted to share a piece of this great site with anyone who would like to have it..  I'll attach pics, but its an Eagle "A" cuff still in the dirt clod.  Roughly 1850, give or take 10 years.  If you are the first to pm and tell me that you'd like to have it, with your address, it's yours.  Please no avid CW hunters.  Let's get it to someone who doesn't have one.  Thanks again to all who replied and voted banner.. It's appreciated

Button's been claimed.. Early bird gets the worm (if you'd really like to have one of the other Eagle A's from the site, pm me and I'll send out a couple more)

The place gave up 40-50 pre-cw Eagle "A" buttons, 3 early army buttons, 5 early navy buttons, 3 Hampton military academy buttons, the VA button from this post, 2 seated coins, a KGII farthing, suspender buckles, thimbles, etc. etc. etc.

Wooo Hooo FANTASTIC Virginia button; congratulations!    Breezie

Ok, this is the last time I'll respond to this thread people   I just wanted to come back and apologize to a couple individuals who felt like I implied they had something to do with the thieving.  Nevertheless, the site will be crawling with other folks soon.  Like I said in the last reply, have at it.

Lastly, I wanted to share a piece of this great site with anyone who would like to have it..  I'll attach pics, but its an Eagle "A" cuff still in the dirt clod.  Roughly 1840's, give or take 10 years.  If you are the first to pm and tell me that you'd like to have it, with your address, it's yours.  Please no avid CW hunters.  Let's get it to someone who doesn't have one.  Thanks again to all who replied and voted banner.. It's appreciated

The place gave up 40-50 pre-cw Eagle "A" buttons, 3 early army buttons, 5 early navy buttons, 3 Hampton military academy buttons, the VA button from this post, 2 seated coins, a KGII farthing, suspender buckles, thimbles, etc. etc. etc.

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That's what I'm talking about Jeff!
I just sent my buddy in HI. Union and Confederate bullets.  Dropped and spent.
He was stoked, to just have something of historical value that he normally may never be able to dig.
Nice gesture buddy

[love]

I absolutely love that button!   Yer my newest hero.     

                       Nana 

 That is really cool keeping the button in the dirt clod. What a great display. 

 

Right for starters it's very difficult for us UK boys to comment on these RARE buttons, because quite frankly we no sod all about them...and it's easy just to say great find I don't like doing that. BUT when you get great hunters like BuckleBoy, Sentinel and Kirk, and RPg to name but a few, telling you this a Banner find....you know this is a no brainer BANNER find.

As for the condition of the find, it speaks for it self, in Britain it;s rare to find any button that looks as good, never mind a rare one

Congrats on making the Banner, hope I can learn more about the find

Silver Searcher.

 :hello:What a Wonderful button congrats