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Posted Jul 18, 2010, 05:34:15 am

I was walking through my father in laws plowed field yesterday
when I noticed something laying just on the outside of one of
the rows and picked it up and took it in to show Dave and he
thinks its an Indian spear weight or some ceremonial piece.
What do you all think it could be, its about 6 inches long and
is made out of some type of rock with circles in it.
Better pictures will follow when my sister in law brings my camera back.
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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 05:41:00 am

That's nice Allen, whatever it is icon_thumleft

Who needs Cartwheel Pennies anyway?
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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 05:51:56 am

That's nice Allen, whatever it is icon_thumleft
My father in law thinks its a indian spear weight. dontknow
I didnt realize the pics was dark until I posted them
and forgot the cardinal rule, I didnt put anything in
for a size reference, but I will when i get my camera back.

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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 05:56:11 am

Spear weight.........uuuh.....?
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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 06:04:18 am

Geez Allen!
I have been searching for 20 minutes now for a match.
Whatever you have discovered may very well make the banner.
I think that is a very nice well preserved relic. What a beautiful piece    icon_thumleft

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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 06:07:17 am

Wow! Looks like you have a pick bannerstone. I have only ever found pieces Cry Believed to be weights used for the atlatl but there is an ongoing controversy about their original use. Sounds like it might be banded slate since you mentioned circles in the stone. Not an expert just an occasional artifact hunter for 15yrs. It would pay to get it checked out, they can bring several hundred. Nice Find.
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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 06:09:07 am

allen, post this over in the Artifacts section. Nice find icon_thumleft
shhh...the person who posted above me just farted but wont see this since you scrolled down.

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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 06:10:38 am

Can't wait to see the better pics! I have a feeling this thread is gonna go places! That's a beauty!

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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 06:11:52 am

Looks like a bannerstone to me too!  Post it in the Native Artifacts forum...great find if it is!

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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 06:19:09 am

I'd say banner stone aswell. And a nice one at that Allen. Get a positive ID and better picks and You'll be on the banner for sure. thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 06:24:41 am

I agree with the ID as a bannerstone.... how fitting it would be if it made banner, as it is pretty nice as far as bannerstones go...

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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 06:43:24 am

Is this item stone or iron?

The Banner Stones I know of are stone and date from 500 to 1800 AD. They range from 4 to 8 inches. Anyway, most believe they were ceremonial pieces.

Most known types:
knobbed
hourglass
shuttle
double cresent
bow tie
bottle
butterfly
sugar loaf

badger

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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 06:49:09 am

Here's a mexican Banner close but not even as pretty as your Banner.

This Bannerstone is selling for 300

That Banner OF YOURS, has my Banner vote!    icon_thumleft
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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 07:23:13 am

My friend Tom identified it like others on here as
a banner stone and made out of banded slate.
I will get better pics as soon as my sister in law
brings my camera back, but it might be several days.

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Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 07:30:06 am

Holy Moly Allen Shocked Shocked  I know close to nothing about Indian Artifacts but that thing is a beauty.. Banner once the better pics arrive for sure.   headbang headbang
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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 07:40:18 am

Spear weight.........uuuh.....?
id as a banner stone
Geez Allen!
I have been searching for 20 minutes now for a match.
Whatever you have discovered may very well make the banner.
I think that is a very nice well preserved relic. What a beautiful piece    icon_thumleft
It is more beautiful in person thumbsup
Wow! Looks like you have a pick bannerstone. I have only ever found pieces Cry Believed to be weights used for the atlatl but there is an ongoing controversy about their original use. Sounds like it might be banded slate since you mentioned circles in the stone. Not an expert just an occasional artifact hunter for 15yrs. It would pay to get it checked out, they can bring several hundred. Nice Find.
Several others think it is a banner stone as well. coffee2
allen, post this over in the Artifacts section. Nice find icon_thumleft
thank you and i just did ! coffee2
I'd say banner stone aswell. And a nice one at that Allen. Get a positive ID and better picks and You'll be on the banner for sure. thumbsup
I am it makes it, itsa beauty in person, but Ill get better pics soon thumbsup
I agree with the ID as a bannerstone.... how fitting it would be if it made banner, as it is pretty nice as far as bannerstones go...

Alan
Thank you Alan icon_sunny
Is this item stone or iron?

The Banner Stones I know of are stone and date from 500 to 1800 AD. They range from 4 to 8 inches. Anyway, most believe they were ceremonial pieces.

Most known types:
knobbed
hourglass
shuttle
double cresent
bow tie
bottle
butterfly
sugar loaf

badger
It is made out of banded slate according to my friend Tom
Here's a mexican Banner close but not even as pretty as your Banner.

This Bannerstone is selling for 300

That Banner has my Banner vote    icon_thumleft
thank you  coffee2
Holy Moly Allen Shocked Shocked  I know close to nothing about Indian Artifacts but that thing is a beauty.. Banner once the better pics arrive for sure.   headbang headbang
thanks coffee2

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Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 08:49:13 am

sweet, sweet banner stone, Allen!
can't wait to see some more pics.

dirty pennies...
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Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 09:56:37 am

If I were you Allen, find someone else to take pictures for you and get these photos up soon.  This could be your chance to make banner and I would like to see that as a reward to all of the thousands of kind replies you have made on this forum over the years.  I'm ready to vote banner, just show us the pics.
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Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 10:10:03 am

Bannerstone and a nice delicate shaped on at that. Probably took a long time to make and when it was lost the maker uttered several Native American swear words.
Killer find and probably worth quite a bit. Let me put it in terms a coin hunter would understand. That is the same to an Indian relic hunter as finding a gold coin is to a coin hunter. Very rare and a "heart racing, yelling, happy dance" sort of find that not many make.
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Reply To This Topic #19 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 10:30:13 am

A pic of the banner stone from my cellphone
with a nickel for size reference.
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Reply To This Topic #20 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 10:39:05 am

Nice Allen, Think you found your Bannerstone,Banner! laughing9
Here is one like it and the site.
Vote is in!
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Reply To This Topic #21 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 10:46:57 am

Great looking bannerstone! Indian relics is my first love......
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Reply To This Topic #22 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 10:52:33 am

amazing piece, Allen.
thank you for the better pics.
you've got my banner vote.  headbang

dirty pennies...
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Reply To This Topic #23 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 11:15:00 am

Congrats on making the banner  headbang What an amazing find  icon_thumleft
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Reply To This Topic #24 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 11:20:57 am

 Congratulations Allen ! Beautiful Banner Stone Banner. What a tongue twister ! Here is a good generic link for what they were. thumbsup

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bannerstone

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Reply To This Topic #25 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 11:23:11 am

Good things happen to people that get out and look on the ground.  Congrats.
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Reply To This Topic #26 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 11:29:31 am

WOW dude!  That is a sweet find!  SO COOL!!!!   WOOHOOO!!!!!

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Reply To This Topic #27 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 11:30:18 am

CONGRATULATIONS   BEAUTIFUL STONE!

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Reply To This Topic #28 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 11:39:30 am

Looks great up there on the top of the page Allen! notworthy notworthy notworthy notworthy icon_thumright
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Reply To This Topic #29 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 11:40:25 am

Beautiful find, I think I need to educate myself on native american artifacts. I probably would have just passed by it. Following the link above, these items seem to sell for a good chunk of change.  Good work! It may be worth authenticating, what do you think?
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Reply To This Topic #30 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 12:27:09 pm

Very nice!!
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Reply To This Topic #31 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 12:28:02 pm

Nice one Allen, that's a fantastic find icon_thumright icon_thumleft
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Reply To This Topic #32 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 12:41:42 pm

Killer banner stone! Thanks for showing.
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Reply To This Topic #33 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 12:51:49 pm

For those interested, here are the most known types.
The prices are most likely way off.
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Reply To This Topic #34 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 01:36:48 pm

Wow,  Shocked

Your banner stone made banner, haha !!  laughing7

Great find, congrats  !!  icon_thumleft  headbang

Keep @ it and HH !!   Grin  Cheesy

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Reply To This Topic #35 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 01:40:44 pm

Congrats on the banner Allen icon_thumleft

Nice find mate!

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Reply To This Topic #36 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 02:20:42 pm

Beautiful Banded Slate Pick Banner, definitely a banner worthy find!!!........................Nice Piece.........................GTP icon_thumleft
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Reply To This Topic #37 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 02:38:05 pm

Way to go, Allen!! That is by far the most beautiful banner stone I've ever seen. Granted, it's the first banner stone I've ever seen, but I can't imagine them coming any prettier!  icon_thumleft
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Reply To This Topic #38 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 02:52:39 pm

WHOA! notworthy notworthy headbang headbang thumbsup
CONGRATS!!!!!!!!! thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #39 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 03:09:37 pm

Simply remarkable!
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Reply To This Topic #40 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 04:41:05 pm

Bannerstone AND the Banner all in a day's work Allen  headbang Congratulation's on an awesome piece  icon_thumright
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Reply To This Topic #41 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 04:48:41 pm

That is toooo kewl, Allen!! Wow! Congrats on finding the banner!! Wink 

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Reply To This Topic #42 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 05:12:26 pm

Hey Allen, congratulations on your find and the banner.
Shelbyville or Bagdad, you don't have to tell me.
I know a lady in bagdad that found a killer pipe
in one of her fields. It's about 8" long and shaped
like a bird. It's perfect except one of the ears is
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Reply To This Topic #43 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 06:00:31 pm

Great Find Allen headbang headbang

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Reply To This Topic #44 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 06:03:59 pm

All right! all right!! Glad to see it up there,  Grin headbang hello2 icon_thumleft It's beautiful




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Reply To This Topic #45 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 06:14:26 pm

Most excellent find, Allen! icon_thumright It's a beauty.  Congrats on the banner, too. hello2 hello2 hello2

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Reply To This Topic #46 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 06:17:59 pm

Awesome find Allen, Congrats on the Banner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!       icon_thumleft

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Reply To This Topic #47 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 06:22:07 pm

Way to go Allen icon_thumleft Excellent find headbang  Paul coffee2

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Reply To This Topic #48 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 06:51:05 pm

Congratulations! I learn something here everyday....never would have known about this piece.
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Reply To This Topic #49 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 07:33:18 pm

OMG . . .what a beautiful and perfect bannerstone!  thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup  I bet in that condition it would fetch at least $XXXX.XX 4 figures.  I'd go back and search for more.  Super great find, Breezie

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Reply To This Topic #50 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 07:56:07 pm

Looks like a pick bannerstone to me,,, WOW!!! what a find ,,once in a lifetime for sure!!!

worth 1000.00 and up!!!! headbang

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Reply To This Topic #51 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 08:51:43 pm

beautiful banded slate bannerstone ! very desireable piece to relic collectors. a banner worthy of the banner for sure.
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Reply To This Topic #52 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 09:31:37 pm

Congradulations on the banner, and the fantastic find.
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Reply To This Topic #53 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 09:43:10 pm

Fantastic find Allen!  Congratulations on the Banner.  thumbsup  I await my banner find.   Embarrassed
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Reply To This Topic #54 Posted Jul 18, 2010, 10:45:21 pm

The stone is beautiful and the work is a piece of art.
Congratulations on the find and achieving the BANNER  thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #55 Posted Jul 19, 2010, 12:51:50 am

BANNER FOR THE BANNER STONE!!!!!!!!  shes a corker allen! willy
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Reply To This Topic #56 Posted Jul 19, 2010, 01:17:47 am

Thats a special find!  read2

Det vi vet er så uendelig lite mot det som har hendt. Arkeologen er som den som går langs en strand og finner småtterier, skyllet i land fra et forsvunnet skib. Men selve skibet som gikk i dypet med menneskene får han aldri se.

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Reply To This Topic #57 Posted Jul 19, 2010, 02:48:39 am

Congrats on the find and making the banner. Looks great to me.

I HAD RATHER DIG ONE RELIC THAN TEN COINS
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Reply To This Topic #58 Posted Jul 19, 2010, 03:36:22 am

That's nice Allen, whatever it is icon_thumleft
Thank you Shaun, I now know its called a banner stone ! coffee2

ALLEN
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Reply To This Topic #59 Posted Jul 19, 2010, 03:41:26 am

Congrats on the find and making the banner. Looks great to me.
thank you   coffee2
Thats a special find!  read2
thanks thumbsup
BANNER FOR THE BANNER STONE!!!!!!!!  shes a corker allen! willy
I still cant believe I  found something this beautiful ! icon_sunny
The stone is beautiful and the work is a piece of art.
Congratulations on the find and achieving the BANNER  thumbsup

Cheers, Mike

Thank you Mike, appreciate the kind words ! coffee2
Fantastic find Allen!  Congratulations on the Banner.  thumbsup  I await my banner find.   Embarrassed
Thank you and you will get your banner  coffee2
Congradulations on the banner, and the fantastic find.
Thank you thumbsup

ALLEN
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Reply To This Topic #60 Posted Jul 19, 2010, 03:46:41 am

beautiful banded slate bannerstone ! very desireable piece to relic collectors. a banner worthy of the banner for sure.
Thanks for the comment coffee2
Looks like a pick bannerstone to me,,, WOW!!! what a find ,,once in a lifetime for sure!!!

worth 1000.00 and up!!!! headbang

arthur
Its priceless to me, it got me on the banner laughing7 coffee2
OMG . . .what a beautiful and perfect bannerstone!  thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup  I bet in that condition it would fetch at least $XXXX.XX 4 figures.  I'd go back and search for more.  Super great find, Breezie
I am once the ground dries up just a bit thumbsup thank you thumbsup
Congratulations! I learn something here everyday....never would have known about this piece.
thank you for the comment thumbsup
Way to go Allen icon_thumleft Excellent find headbang  Paul coffee2
thank you  thumbsup
Awesome find Allen, Congrats on the Banner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!       icon_thumleft

Bubba65
appreciate the comment and thank you icon_sunny
Most excellent find, Allen! icon_thumright It's a beauty.  Congrats on the banner, too. hello2 hello2 hello2

HH
thank you  thumbsup

ALLEN
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Reply To This Topic #61 Posted Jul 19, 2010, 03:51:56 am

All right! all right!! Glad to see it up there,  Grin headbang hello2 icon_thumleft It's beautiful

Thank you naturegirl ! coffee2



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Reply To This Topic #62 Posted Jul 19, 2010, 03:53:42 am

I appreciate all the banner votes, the congratulations and wonderful comments !
Thank you all  thumbsup

ALLEN
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Reply To This Topic #63 Posted Jul 19, 2010, 03:57:25 am

Congrats on the beautiful stone, allen   hello2 hello2 hello2
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Reply To This Topic #64 Posted Jul 19, 2010, 04:05:22 am

Nice work spotting the artifact in the field . Great find , one of the nicest stones out there  . An important archaic site containing numerous graves containing banner stones is at Indian Knoll, Kentucky. At this site, “few of the banner stones show signs of use.  They are carved of exotic imported stones with an exceptional artistry that exploits the natural colors, patterns, and striations of the stones to afford maximum visual satisfaction” . This shows both the importance of long distance trade in connecting various archaic societies as well as the importance they placed on the visual appeal of the pieces. This visual appeal would be created in part to please the spirits that the individuals were attempting to persuade for assistance and protection in the hunt, society, and the world as a whole.  Your discovery has that , visual appeal !    Congrats Allen   Shocked

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Reply To This Topic #65 Posted Jul 19, 2010, 04:06:00 am

Allen, this find could not have happened to a better forum member. hello2 You always offer great words of encouragement and that is why the Indian gods rewarded you with an artifact that will get you one step closer to paying off your house. headbang Congrats again, Allen, and enjoy your time on the Banner! You are a good guy. Your wife is one lucky person. icon_thumleft

Kirk

Keep the passion high!
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Reply To This Topic #66 Posted Jul 19, 2010, 04:50:07 am

I had never heard of a banner stone until now. Awesome save from next years plow!!

God and country.
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Reply To This Topic #67 Posted Jul 19, 2010, 05:02:38 am

Congrat's on the stone and the Banner, great piece for any collection.  icon_thumright
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Reply To This Topic #68 Posted Jul 19, 2010, 05:44:52 am

Great find Allen.  Looks like you already made banner,  but I'm going to throw in my late vote anyway !!!.   Ron in IL.
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Reply To This Topic #69 Posted Jul 19, 2010, 06:50:22 am

Wonderful very old stone artifact  icon_thumleft Congrats on the Banner  thumbsup Dd60

If Mother Earth give,s us precious metals like gold silver and copper why leave them in the ground to disappear forever  , dig them out and save History !!
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Reply To This Topic #70 Posted Jul 19, 2010, 08:25:42 am

Good thing you are not in my Home state... You cant keep any Indian relics you find there, well, and talk about them... Dumbest law I have ever heard of..
I used to find arrowheads all the time, grinding stones, mace heads. etc...

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Reply To This Topic #71 Posted Jul 19, 2010, 11:17:47 am

Great find Allen... if you want to see more, just google   Bannerstone
You will see plenty....

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Reply To This Topic #72 Posted Jul 19, 2010, 11:41:10 am

Allen great find and congrats on the banner...well deserved.

I have to admit it took around three posts calling it a Bannerstone before I realized that is its actual name and they were not saying it is a stone that deserves to be on the banner...lol.  I think I'm working too much...need a vacation.

NJ
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Reply To This Topic #73 Posted Jul 19, 2010, 03:08:44 pm

Allen, you can afford a Minelab now.   Grin
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Reply To This Topic #74 Posted Jul 19, 2010, 04:38:11 pm

holy crap! rock is big $

2012 FINDS
1879 Morgan Dollar

2011 FINDS-?

2010 FINDS-?

2009 FINDS
IH - 1889,1892,1902,04,06,07,08,07,04
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Reply To This Topic #75 Posted Jul 19, 2010, 05:05:49 pm

Congratulations, Allen, you lucky rascal!!  Great find.  Interesting how many folks went right straight to the monetary value, but I hope it inspires you to take a little time to research its use and the history of the people who made it.  A 'banner' stone.

This world is not my home.
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Reply To This Topic #76 Posted Jul 19, 2010, 05:23:42 pm

i thought it was a boat cleat when i first saw it. evil6. now that i am educated congrats and its a really nice piece. good luck with it.

HH
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Reply To This Topic #77 Posted Jul 19, 2010, 05:27:19 pm

Thats Kewl!  icon_thumright

Lil Eagle Eye
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Reply To This Topic #78 Posted Jul 19, 2010, 06:24:28 pm

Congrats Allen, you deserve to be up there! Sweet artifact for sure. icon_thumleft

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Reply To This Topic #79 Posted Jul 19, 2010, 06:34:10 pm

Wow, I have never seen anything like that. Congrats and looks like it will go for some cha ching.  icon_thumleft
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Reply To This Topic #80 Posted Jul 19, 2010, 06:47:43 pm

Congratulations Allen ! Beautiful Banner Stone Banner. What a tongue twister ! Here is a good generic link for what they were. thumbsup

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bannerstone

TnMtns

Not a big fan of Wiki but they did well on this link giving a spiritual as well as functional purpose of the stone. I am not sure people realise the value of ancient artifacts. Nothing like an old fashion eye ball find. Allen made his banner with a very old spiritual item. Nice!
I can dig it! "WP"

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Reply To This Topic #81 Posted Jul 20, 2010, 03:05:42 am




Congratulations on making a banner find Allen!
Great looking artifact and in perfect condition, quite a find indeed  icon_thumleft icon_thumleft icon_thumleft

GG~

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Reply To This Topic #82 Posted Jul 20, 2010, 03:34:30 am

beautiful find Allen  thumbsup  notworthy
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Reply To This Topic #83 Posted Jul 20, 2010, 03:44:45 am

Nice find Allen. Congrats.
Chris
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Reply To This Topic #84 Posted Jul 20, 2010, 04:19:55 am

Wow, what a beautiful find!  Looks like you had a great eye spotting that on the ground!!  Congrats on that beautiful piece and making Banner!!!

Ironman

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Reply To This Topic #85 Posted Jul 20, 2010, 05:15:07 am

great find Allen and congrats on making the banner!! thumbsup thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #86 Posted Jul 20, 2010, 04:11:02 pm

Fantastic Banner stone, I have found a bunch of arrowhead, knives, grinding stone, you name it, but never a banner.

Congratulations on a Great find.

HH, Ringfinder

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Reply To This Topic #87 Posted Jul 20, 2010, 05:19:19 pm

Material could be Canadian banded slate.  I saw a pipe made out of it once.  Just like the grey and green slate that I see around here, but more of a brownish / red.  Just a thought.  Great find!
VWandSTUDEBAKER

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Reply To This Topic #88 Posted Jul 20, 2010, 06:26:35 pm

One on auction kind of like it

http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/4300918

Maybe check with this guy.

http://www.bannerstones.com/bannerstones/bstones2.html

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Reply To This Topic #89 Posted Jul 21, 2010, 05:52:28 am

Good eye spotting this artifact Allen!! Congrats, it's a beauty. thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #90 Posted Jul 21, 2010, 07:13:45 am

Thank you all for the wonderful comments
and for voting banner on my bannerstone.

ALLEN
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Reply To This Topic #91 Posted Jul 21, 2010, 07:35:02 am

That is a beautiful peice allen.

Congrats on making tha banner and recovering a great artifact.

HH Jer
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Reply To This Topic #92 Posted Jul 21, 2010, 12:30:20 pm

That's a beauty!  Really nice find. 

JRich
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Reply To This Topic #93 Posted Jul 24, 2010, 12:45:35 pm

Beautiful find, I think I need to educate myself on native american artifacts. I probably would have just passed by it. Following the link above, these items seem to sell for a good chunk of change.  Good work! It may be worth authenticating, what do you think?
Imletting a professor at the University of Kentucky look at  it right
now, and as soon as he saw it he was really thrilled to " see such a beauty "
in the perfect shape it is in.

ALLEN
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Reply To This Topic #94 Posted Jul 24, 2010, 01:27:04 pm

              Allen that is a SUPER find!!! Congratulations on making a well deserved Banner. I have never seen one of those and don't even remeber it from my Indian artifact reference books. With no till farming and the tobacco buyout, most of the Cumberland River bottoms with artifacts are not plowed anymore. WTG & HH, Quindy.

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CS Buttons: AVC, "I", KY
CS Militia Buckle, Acorn Bullet, Heart Rosette
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Reply To This Topic #95 Posted Jul 24, 2010, 07:14:21 pm

Beautiful find, I think I need to educate myself on native american artifacts. I probably would have just passed by it. Following the link above, these items seem to sell for a good chunk of change.  Good work! It may be worth authenticating, what do you think?
Imletting a professor at the University of Kentucky look at  it right
now, and as soon as he saw it he was really thrilled to " see such a beauty "
in the perfect shape it is in.

 Allen I am enjoying the journey. Please keep us updated. You may have found another fun hobby.
TnMtns

Reply To This Topic #96 Posted Jul 25, 2010, 06:48:51 pm

 notworthy

not every treasure is gold, silver or copper.......great find!
"you can't fight with me...you're miniature...you fight like a hamster."

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Reply To This Topic #97 Posted Jul 26, 2010, 06:47:18 am

 hello2 hello2 hello2 hello2 hello2 hello2 hello2 hello2 hello2 hello2
ALAN!!!! see all ya gotta do is wait for me to check my email!!! then ill finally get over
here and read that you found something GREAT!!!
im so happy for you!!!  way go to kid!!!   that really is VERY cool!
keep up the good work kiddo!  keep in touch... and ill be praying you find lots of other really great
things.
~kell



today and everyday ....... <3  happy go lucky to be alive <3

Reply To This Topic #98 Posted Jul 27, 2010, 10:24:58 am

 Shocked Shocked Shocked

Allen sorry for the late reply on your amazing BANNER find notworthy I had just got back of Holiday and a few posts had slipped by me Undecided once again Great find icon_thumleft

SS

Reply To This Topic #99 Posted Jul 29, 2010, 05:06:35 am

WoW ... notworthy
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