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Bronze Age Dagger Blade - Rapier or Dirk - 1200 BC

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Posted Sep 03, 2010, 05:10:01 am

Hi All,
Got a few hours out yesterday afternoon visiting the 'Bronze Age' farm again.
After a very quiet start (only a couple of buttons in the 1st hour) a few 'recent' coins showed up - George V 1921 Florin, George VI Sixpence, etc and then this as I walked up the slope:
Bronze Age Dagger blade - Rapier or Dirk - around 1200 BC:
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Quite possibly a votive deposit rather than it having been lost.

13cm in length, 4cm at widest part tapering to 1cm - wafer thin probably only about 3mm down central rib sloping down to nothing at the sides - weighs around 50g.

It would have had 'rivets' at the butt end attaching it to a bone or horn handle - A thrusting weapon.

A nice few hours in the sun rewarded also with £2.01 modern money towards the cold beer fund!  occasion14
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There's 2 more fields just been cut - hoping to get back on there next week.

 



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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Sep 03, 2010, 07:30:28 pm

that blade is a killer find!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!      MR TUFF

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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Sep 03, 2010, 07:40:16 pm

Nice find bud!  Not too many people can say they've dug a dirk that old  Wink icon_thumleft

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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Sep 03, 2010, 07:40:42 pm

 Fantastic. It is a Dirk or maybe have you considered spear point. The rapier was the dueling sword the Dirk the dagger so to speak. Man that is just a great find. Very thin and still looks sharp. I think that is a very rare find.
 Congratulations sir !!
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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Sep 03, 2010, 08:18:45 pm

WOW.... sweet find.. banner vote bud...great job.
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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Sep 03, 2010, 10:22:05 pm

Ditto to ALL the positive remarks, WOW what a great find congratulations amigo!  notworthy  I would have likely broken my neck trying to do a backflip if I ever found something like that!  I am voting BANNER!    thumbsup hello2 headbang
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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Sep 03, 2010, 11:23:23 pm

Fantastic. It is a Dirk or maybe have you considered spear point. The rapier was the dueling sword the Dirk the dagger so to speak. Man that is just a great find. Very thin and still looks sharp. I think that is a very rare find.
 Congratulations sir !!
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I thought it was a 'Spear Point' at first, yes (not dug one before.. perhaps I will though here) and we all thought it could be back at the farm, It wasn't until I got back home to my books that I could rule Bronze Age Spear out as these were 'Socketed' for the shaft to fit in to. The 2 'rivet' holes (remains of) gave it away.
Since had confirmation from the museum that it is a Dirk (they'll have it off me next month). Also mentioned that items like this were not usually lost but placed as a votive offering, there are some burial mounds not too far from this field.... Could be digging a body up next.. oh dear!

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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Sep 03, 2010, 11:28:50 pm

that blade is a killer find!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!      MR TUFF
"Killer Find" indeed - I wonder how many it has been used to kill by its previous owner.

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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Sep 03, 2010, 11:46:42 pm

awesome blade  notworthy

Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Sep 03, 2010, 11:51:21 pm

Something Dad & I are yet to find, maybe never will, my Banner votes in hello2 hello2 hello2

I will say it again, for a recently joined member to the hobby, your on fire headbang

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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Sep 04, 2010, 01:29:49 am

...I will say it again, for a recently joined member to the hobby, your on fire headbang ...
Thanks Crusader...  More than just a hobby, its become an obsession! The Grand Piano in the corner of the room can't be seen anymore, it's now become a table for pots of finds, books, maps, internet print-outs, horns, skulls etc.. Looking more like a science museum every day. Have recently bought a SEF coil for my etrac 15" x 18" - I don't use it all of the time but on the old pasture fields its picked up things that my normal coil hasn't - still waiting for that gold coin though!

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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Sep 04, 2010, 02:14:24 am

 headbang  excellent find, as far as weapons the only to be older is stone incredible Banner for sure !!  thumbsup Dd60
 

If Mother Earth give,s us precious metals like gold silver and copper why leave them in the ground to disappear forever  , dig them out and save History !!
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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Sep 04, 2010, 03:03:24 am

Gosh!  I made the banner..  hello2  Yippee
Just been given 2 new fields to go in in the next village too - what a lovely day x

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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Sep 04, 2010, 03:08:22 am

Gosh!  I made the banner..  hello2  Yippee
Just been given 2 new fields to go in in the next village too - what a lovely day x

Congrats on the Banner well deserved  thumbsup Dd60

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Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Sep 04, 2010, 04:25:19 am

Good eyes Dave, way to keep your eyes on the ground! Shocked Enjoyed your video as well.
Congratulations on making the Banner too notworthy

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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Sep 04, 2010, 06:20:33 am

Hi, that's a great looking dagger blade headbang  I agree, that is A VERY deserving piece thumbsup  Congratulations occasion18
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Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Sep 04, 2010, 11:31:32 am

Wow fantasic find.........  Tongue

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Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Sep 04, 2010, 12:04:21 pm

You just mind the top of that grand piano David.....Great finds tho.....enjoyed the pictures and video.......congratulations on the banner.. hello



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Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Sep 04, 2010, 03:32:21 pm

...You just mind the top of that grand piano David.....
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Thanks Unicorn - got a thick cover over it, got to take great care of this one as a few important fingers have played on its keys, Stevie Wonder, Jools Holland, etc - do you play?  sunny

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Reply To This Topic #19 Posted Sep 04, 2010, 03:33:07 pm

The dagger is a stunning find congrats!   notworthy

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Reply To This Topic #20 Posted Sep 04, 2010, 03:44:11 pm

Amazing! it kept so well over all these years. Good one, good luck on finding more!! headbang

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Reply To This Topic #21 Posted Sep 04, 2010, 03:50:03 pm

Big congrat's on the dagger and the banner. icon_thumright

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...I will say it again, for a recently joined member to the hobby, your on fire headbang ...
Thanks Crusader...  More than just a hobby, its become an obsession! The Grand Piano in the corner of the room can't be seen anymore, it's now become a table for pots of finds, books, maps, internet print-outs, horns, skulls etc.. Looking more like a science museum every day. Have recently bought a SEF coil for my etrac 15" x 18" - I don't use it all of the time but on the old pasture fields its picked up things that my normal coil hasn't - still waiting for that gold coin though!

Yeap, always knew you were the right animal for the job Wink Cheesy icon_thumright

PS.  BANNER TIME notworthy

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Reply To This Topic #23 Posted Sep 04, 2010, 06:50:14 pm

WOW WHAT A FIND

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Reply To This Topic #24 Posted Sep 04, 2010, 08:49:03 pm

A BIG congratulations on your Banner Find!  Now, keep those open tubs half filled with water off that piano!  From one musician to another, one day I would love to own a vintage Steinway Grand--either late 1930s or early 1940s.   headbang

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Reply To This Topic #25 Posted Sep 05, 2010, 12:17:39 am

Unfortunately I do not play the piano David but can appreciate the beauty of a "grand".  Jools Holland, and Stevie Wonder, no less.  Are you in the "wonderous" of Jazz.


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Reply To This Topic #26 Posted Sep 05, 2010, 12:38:57 am

congrats david..what a beaut

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Reply To This Topic #27 Posted Sep 05, 2010, 08:50:24 am

Congrats David on making the banner
with that awesome piece of history ! coffee2

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Reply To This Topic #28 Posted Sep 05, 2010, 02:25:55 pm

Wow, congrats on a great find and in making the Banner. thumbsup
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Reply To This Topic #29 Posted Sep 05, 2010, 02:33:51 pm

Well done David  thumbsup ! Congratulations on your banner and lance ...... I missed your post ,sorry.  Grin
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Reply To This Topic #30 Posted Sep 05, 2010, 04:58:59 pm

Super duper find! Excellent find for sure!

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Reply To This Topic #31 Posted Sep 05, 2010, 05:56:05 pm

Well done David  thumbsup ! Congratulations on your banner and lance ...... I missed your post ,sorry.  Grin
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Reply To This Topic #32 Posted Sep 07, 2010, 02:48:51 am

Had a couple of hours back on the field yesterday before the rain came to see if I could find another... Came away with just 2 Halfpennies 1914 & 1943 and 2 Livery buttons 'Lurcher' and 'Dragon & triple-towered Castle) - 18th/19th century I think :

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Reply To This Topic #33 Posted Sep 14, 2010, 07:47:13 am

David...Sorry for the interruption in this thread, but I must ask you. Have you ever been told that you resemble Ian Botham. For all of those who are'nt familiar with him he is or was a cricketer.

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