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Posted Jul 26, 2006, 08:21:07 am

Tomorrow  I  end a journey that has taken me ten years to accomplish.  Next week I hope to post my finds and the rest of the story. ........................


You could hear it long before you saw it. The gentle rushing of cool water rambling lazily over the rocks of the Jump River. Traveling down the rutted, dusty lane, surrounded by towering pines, oaks and cedar, the air was pungent with the warm rich smell of ancient woods. This road has remained the same for over 150 years. Spiraling slivers of sunlight peeked through the dense undergrowth, allowing fleeting glimpses of the moss-covered floor of the forest. Dark shadows beckoned you deeper. Shifting the Jeep to a crawl, I allowed myself to travel back in time and experience how the early  settlers felt, as they took this same road to their new homes for the very first time.

Fourteen ox driven carts, 56 people, including women and small children had just arrived from Eastern NY. The journey had taken over five months, and it was now midsummer. Tired and dirty, but full of hope  they marveled at the vastness of the Wisconsin Northwood’s.  These  pioneers were to become landowners. At 1 cent an acre, the government had promised all settlers that the Northern acreage could become theirs if they established homesteads. Banding together, these brave young men and women,  babies and grandparents had journeyed North West to fulfill their dreams.  The young men, tall handsome Swedes and Norwegians had already called claims to their land, as they had passed them. Following the Indian trails that ran along the river, each family positioned themselves on high ground, with the water close by.

The Cummings, Vannedges, Millers, Kubes, Fricks ,Andersons to name a few would within a short time have  the land  cleared, log homes and barns built and a town began. A bustling settlement, with feed and grain mill, a sawmill, general store, several homes, livery ,a coopers and school. A river mill town that provided unity and life to the  families and those that would soon follow. Soon this small community would boast two hundred people. A town with hopes…… that would eventually fade into the forest floor as the railroads took over in the 1900’s and the river towns became a graveyard of dreams. The birth and death of a town within a fifty-year span. If you listen, you can hear the wailing of a faraway train whistle, sending its mournful death cry over the hills and echoing its haunting sound throughout the treetops.

Within these overgrown woods, are the remnants of that town. As long as I can remember, stories were told of the mighty loggers who cleared the Wisconsin forests, turning them to rich farm ground and making the way for the huge dairy farms. This road will end the search.

 Last fall, I was able to pinpoint the town’s location. There are few existing records. The children and grandchildren of these settlers are long buried and the remaining families, now in their 70 ands 80’s vaguely remember the stories they were told. For many years I was led to believe, this was just a way station, not really a town. But things didn’t add up, the more I sought, the more I found. Bits and pieces of information gathered from old pictures, journals, school records, books and maps.
 The one remaining building is the brick school. Burned twice, this was the heart of the community. It has now stood steadily since the 1880’s.  The Cummings brothers donated land for the building of the school within the first year of settlement. Education was important and first little log school housed not only their children, but became the community center, as it served as a church, dances were held here, as well as weddings and funerals. Children were brought to school by boat, sled and wagons.

The first winter was hard, but the Indians tribes provided the settlers with food, venison and friendship. These friendships turned to family as many of the young men took Indian brides. The Indians had a huge Camp 15 miles to the East of the settlement and trading of goods was a common occurance in the small village. Each spring, the tribe would make their way through the little town, trading furs and hides ,dried herbs, copper tools and other staples for the items they needed. These Indians had traveled down from Eau Claire and brought items to the small village that the white people needed. 

The Cummings brothers cleared over 300 acres of pines the within three years. New York Timber barons purchased the great white pines and a sawmill was established on the Jump. Within that time a settlement sprang up, with the next closest being Ogema, 20 miles as the crow flies.

As you breath in the glory of this place, you can see why and how a family could make a good life here. The woods are thick, the water plentiful and the ground, dark and rich. Abundant wild game and fish are evident still.

My job  has just begun. It is my plan to grid and hunt this land over the next five  days. I have  sought permission from several out of state land-owners and will be camping here, while documenting everything I find. A book for the State Historical Society as well as the County will be published by fall. I had previously surveyed this spot and have found rock foundations and cellar holes  on both sides of the river. A farm owner, descendant from the first Cummings, will meet with me to show where he buried several other foundations fifty  years ago. I will be canoeing   two miles up river  to photograph several settlers and a trappers log cabins.  I have found several bottle dumps along the river in a short period and the remains show dates of 1850’s, some as old as 1830’s. My first find, deep into the woods, was a rusted cast iron cook stove, a tombstone marking the demise of a forgotten time and place.

Research …is like a homesteaders quilt…you save every scrap ,no matter how tiny , but as you begin to put the pieces together ,you end up with a beautiful story of someones life. 

I cannot let the dreams and hopes of these first settlers fade into oblivion. They need to be honored as important people of our history. They might not have been famous or world known. They didn’t become Generals or Presidents. The small items I hope to find ,wont lead to anything of historical exclamation. But these are my people ….and yours…..Our brave and fearless ancestors who paved the way across the States for each of us. Lets step back into time and glimpse into their hearts and souls.

Day One: ………………..to be continued

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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Jul 26, 2006, 08:25:28 am

Well written, Gypsy!  That was excellent.

We all know there's no such thing as a "hunted out" location.  Let's stop using that phrase to describe a park out of which you just dug a pile of coins!  Obviously that particular place wasn't "hunted out", right?
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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Jul 26, 2006, 08:47:09 am

 That was GREAT, good luck to you Gypsy, happy hunting. post as much as you can. I'm sure all of your hard work will pay off!!

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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Jul 26, 2006, 09:59:12 am

 Gypsy that is AWSOME!!!!!!!!!!!  great job! I'm gonna be sitting on the edge of my seat until youm post the rest!!!!!!!!!!! The knowledge you have about this town is treasure itself!!!!  hh jd

10,000 light years from nowhere, our planet shot to pieces, people starving, and I'm gonna get us in trouble!! Whats the matter with you!?

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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Jul 26, 2006, 11:28:20 am

With all that said!  Your gonna prove to us all that not only are you superb at researching and finding information on a number of subjects related to items, Relics and a number of outstanding finds that have been posted here on Treasure Net ..You will have one of the best Detecting weekends that you will most likely remember and never forget through out your many years of Metal Detecting!  With the information you have obtained on this Ghost Town you should have no problem finding plenty of nice finds . Coins , Relics and even items that may tell a little story about the town itself!  So you go and have one heck of a time and I wish you the best of luck always!!!  Stay safe! I'm looking forward to your return and the story you bring with you.................. ;) ;) ;)

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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Jul 26, 2006, 12:49:12 pm

Beautifully written, Gypsy.  What an adventure you and your girls will have. 

I can't wait to see what you dig up!  Smiley
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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Jul 26, 2006, 02:10:57 pm

Well written, Gypsy.  Your long, hard research will pay off.  Wishing you & the girls the best & be safe.  Take plenty of pics.

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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Jul 26, 2006, 03:35:35 pm

WOW Gypsy you are on to a great adventure as well as for the readers. I hope the weather cooperates with you. This is going to be one great post. I can tell your heart is in it.  ;)  Can't wait for Day two.   Burdie

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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Jul 26, 2006, 03:48:51 pm

Nice job Gypsy, I hope the search is fruitful for you.  Smiley
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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Jul 26, 2006, 03:56:53 pm

wow -- I can't wait to see what you find -- I wish you the best!!!
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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Jul 26, 2006, 04:04:26 pm

I'm envious and jealous! I wanna go! Grin Grin Good luck Gypsy.I wish you all the best.Be safe.

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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Jul 26, 2006, 04:24:31 pm

Well done, dear Heart!  Looking forward to more of your Gypsy magic!
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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Jul 26, 2006, 05:49:38 pm

PBK big man on campus now..... Cool

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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Jul 26, 2006, 06:22:05 pm

What a great way to enrich you and your family's lives as well as the State and local historical societies. They may not have been famous or well known but they and many others like them made up an important part of our history for their strengths and abilities to overcome the many hardships. Best of luck and thanks for sharing this piece of history which otherwise would lie forgotten and passed by the wayside.

Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Jul 27, 2006, 12:06:08 am

     The time has finally arrived.    Wish you the utmost success.  Looking forward to your posts of your adventure.    Enjoy!!       HH
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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Aug 02, 2006, 12:40:34 pm

Well!!

We are waiting!

And, I know you are back...so whats the delay.

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Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Aug 02, 2006, 05:33:26 pm

She'll probably be writing for awhile, from the sounds of things..... think she done hit the nail on the head. ;)
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Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Aug 02, 2006, 05:41:29 pm

What a great story Gypsy!  I wish, I wish, I wish I could have done something like that!  Hope your finds are many.  I can't wait to read the rest of the story.

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Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Aug 03, 2006, 10:41:36 am

My camera died on me so I had to load pics off a borrowed camera....pics are at end....This gets a little long...so wont bore everyone with the entire journal....I have to return in two weeks ,because I have about five more cellar holes to dig out.....More pics this week.

Day One:
Unbelievable weather.100 degrees and not a breeze in sight. It’s like a sauna, even under these huge pines. The grass is chest high and the undergrowth is immense. There are not only briars and brambles, but also lots of lowdown rotting timber. This is going to be a real trick to hunt. The Camper is left parked on a logging road, nestled between several stumps. Not quite level, but with the help of jacks, I at least wont be rolling out of bed. The screen tent porch that attaches is a real problem, but we finally manage to connect it when after several attempts   I hoist Mariah onto the roof to guide the vinyl strip into place. Had I known what was to take place later, I wouldn’t have bothered.
We are anxious to hunt and decide to scan the area for foundations first. Its hard walking and we are basically crawling through the briars. I leave the detector and tools, except for hatchet and digging knife until I can find a site. After an hour, we finally stumble down a bank to the river and as I lay at the bottom, with two small daughters piled on top of me laughing their heads off, we spot old cans and broken bottles. Yes! We attack the pile like badgers and skim the rusted cans off. Pieces of broken bottles, pottery and dishes emerge. Knowing that a foundation has to be close by I leave the girls to dig and I climb back up to peer through the tangled brush to see where the largest trees are. I spot several gigantic oaks and head that way. Within moments I am seeing a cellar hole. This will become the pattern for the next four days. Find cellar hole, see collapsed logs and chimney, dig under it, find cast iron cook stove or potbelly stove, and dig under it. Find old iron beds, dig under it...... I will spend an enormous amount of time and energy removing debris from the holes so I can search.  I do believe I have died and gone to Heaven.
I have no idea what time it is, except the sun is way to the west. . We have found four cellar holes and cleared two. The girls had found another dumpsite and have stacked broken bottles and pottery along the bank. I am guessing we aren’t going to find many whole bottles as these dump sites are along the flood plane and I am sure as they fill with water, the freezing winters have then broken them. Tired, sore filthy and hungry we make our way back to camp. We come back with one amber bottle Cherry Heering with Peter F Herring Denmark, Copenhagen on the bottom. It looks like its from about 1890-1900 and I am just happy to have one full bottle.
It’s too hot to build a campfire, so we make hotdogs on the Coleman stove and drink water. The sun is setting and with it the woods comes alive with hoots and howls. Somewhere down the river a coyote sends up a lonesome wail. A group of wild turkeys are spotted up the road and they venture closer, probally amazed to see humans in this spot. The girls and I make for the river and take a much-needed bath. We startle a doe and two fawns, which scamper away. The girls are making so much noise its hard to believe there would be any wildlife in the vicinity with the racket they make. We rinse out our dirty jeans and t-shirts that are caked with mud and lay them on the banks to dry overnight. Its dark by time we make our way back to the camper and the lantern throws eerie shadows. Once inside, the camper is snug and tight and the girls are already planning tomorrows digs. Its plain hot, even with all the windows open the heat is stifling.  There is something so peaceful about sleeping in the middle of a forest. The night sounds of crickets and small nocturnal animals scurrying about are calming. The rippling water is just lulling me to sleep. That is until the bigger animals start their prowl. I wasn’t sure if it was a bear grunting or a buck snorting, but it rattled me enough to get up and double check the door. With a shotgun at my feet, I fell into a much-needed coma. The next thing I felt and heard was a huge bang. Was someone was throwing rocks on my roof and then lighting fireworks off? What the heck. For the second time today, I had two small daughters piled on top of me. A terrible lightening storm had blown up and the thunder was deafening. As the wind picked up, our small camper swayed back and forth. Pulling the girls closer, I pondered on how smashed we would be once a pine came down on the camper. Since there wasn’t much we could do about it, I told the girls to pretend we were in a big storm at sea and asked the Father to hold us safely in His arms for the rest of the night. The girls immediately fell asleep, while I stayed awake to write in the journals and map the area we had hunted. About five am the storm finally passed, and I stepped into the attached tent porch into three inches of water. Flooded to the max. After surveying the area, I was surprised to see several large branches down, one just inch from my jeep. We were really lucky not to have any on the camper.


Day Two
I plan on getting an early start and pack water and sandwiches for another day in the forest. Its barely 6,when I hear the rumble of an ATV coming down the road. As it nears, I see it is Mr.JC ,a descendant of one of the very first settlers in this area. JC is 73 yrs old and ready to help me locate old foundations. I had had several conversations with him over the years and had asked him to join me on this hunt for a day. I was a little worried about his age, until a couple of hours later when he was telling me to "Keep up" Haha.And this after him having both hips replaced. He was in his glory and entertained me with numerous stories from his childhood. His grandparents, William and Lucy were among those first settlers and he is a wealth of knowledge. We found a stone foundation and I was getting numerous iron hits. I started digging and barely had stuck my knife in the ground, when I hit metal. A pair of iron blacksmith tongs. Within minutes, I was digging out axe heads, 18 inch forged spikes, a 2''x12'' sleigh bolt, one logging tong and then the other side. I had hit the iron lottery. JC really helped with this part, as he was able to identify every piece I pulled from the ground. Then I began pulling up buggy parts; hubs, wheels, rein holders, the steps and springs, by the time I finished I think I have enough parts to put it back together. I even dug the gas lamp that hung from the hook. JC by this time was hooked on metal detecting and wanted to buy mine from me. He kept laughing, calling me a badger and said I wore him out just watching me dig. Since this is the first time I had ever had someone hunt with me outside of the girls, I was happy that I had him along. I really enjoyed his company and learned alot from him. As the day went on, he began telling me of other places that I should hunt. Old trapper cabins and people who had died in the thirties and left buried money that no one could find. Hmmmmm....Mr JC was rapidly becoming my new best friend!
In the mean time, the girls had found another hole and found a stash of old silverware and broken pottery. Thick stone wear crocks and plates, broken, but mostly marked Redwing. Each time they pulled a broken dish out you would hear one of them exclaim...Awwww that’s too bad...
We hunted the entire day and hauled as much as we could back to the camper in five gallon buckets. If you think I was dirty and sore the first day, triple that for this one. Plus the lack of sleep from the storm wasn’t helping. After our goodbyes to JC and a promise to meet him on day four, we took our river bath again and ate a light supper. The girls played checkers and talked about their finds over candlelight as I write in the journal. Cheyenne just said 'Mom...isn’t this the best vacation we ever had”.
Day Three
It stormed again last night and the thunder kept us awake, but again no damage. Everything is soaked and steaming as temps hit 80 by 7. I observe the growing pile of iron next to the camper and wonder what the heck I will take and have to leave. I can’t carry it all home.  Today we are canoeing up river to hit a couple of trapper cabins. The water is low enough that should I tip, I can walk out!  After about a half mile, I see several large pines next to the bank. As I bring the canoe to shore, bottles and rusty cans poke out of the bank. This is a sandy area and I can see a partial stone foundation at the top of the bank near the pines.  These are stacked stones and as I climb up I know I have the sawmill! This is where I want to cry. I have finally come full circle with my research and this is the missing piece I needed to prove this settlement did indeed exist. My very first hit was about six inches deep. Hacking through roots, I finally hit hard iron. My gloves are just about in shreds after two days of digging. Then I pulled it out. A broad axe. I wonder just how far the echo of my scream carried through those woods! From old maps I have, this was the perfect place to build the mill. The water route has now shifted a bit and the mill is standing about 75 feet from the river. Digging into this rich black earth, I realize I am actually standing on old sawdust mounds and hope they wont cave in. I continue to dig and find more forged bolts, handles, a rusted potbelly stove with a hand dicer tool still in the oven, wooden handle in tact! Axes, plow bits, harness buckles, a iron skate, 8 inch square nails, spikes, horse shoes and every what not imaginable. After a half day of digging I have had enough. The temps have risen and we are blacker than the soil. The deer flies are biting and hard.... more rain coming. I decide to canoe up to the old cabin and search around it while I still have daylight. The girls are tired and sleep in the bottom of the canoe. I find the remnants of the cabin with no problem. I knew that there had been people living there until the 1930's. The owner has kept it up as best as he can and the original vertical cedar logs have stood well against the elements.
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Reply To This Topic #19 Posted Aug 03, 2006, 10:42:58 am

More to come
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Reply To This Topic #20 Posted Aug 03, 2006, 02:47:58 pm

KICK ASS DIGS

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Reply To This Topic #21 Posted Aug 03, 2006, 04:09:54 pm

except for the storm, sounds like a blast! Pretty neat findings, too. I bet you and the girls can't wait to get back-
Random chance seems to have operated in our favor

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Reply To This Topic #22 Posted Aug 03, 2006, 08:50:24 pm

Man oh man! Totally awesome!! What a great story and pics. My hat's off to you, CONGRATS!
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Reply To This Topic #23 Posted Aug 04, 2006, 07:42:25 am

Congratulations Gypsy!!!!, I'm so glad all your hard work paid off. It looks like you and the girls had such a good time. I cant wait to see and hear the rest of your story.

                                             kenb
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Reply To This Topic #25 Posted Aug 04, 2006, 08:39:51 am

Gypsy,

Awesome, Awesome, Awesome...your story, finds & pics.

So happy for you and the girls.

 ;) River



Reply To This Topic #26 Posted Aug 04, 2006, 10:14:00 am

     Great great story!!   Really looking forward to reading more. 
   I'm sure you know this already, but just in case.  Redwing is highly sought after by collectors. Some what like McCoy pottery is.
   You're a real credit to treasure net. Congratulations and WTG!!!    HH
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Reply To This Topic #27 Posted Aug 04, 2006, 11:15:55 am

Excellent! Monty

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Reply To This Topic #28 Posted Aug 04, 2006, 05:48:02 pm

Great pics. Do you travel with a dog? I have a hundred+ pound female cur cross. Nothing gets close to my camp without me knowing.

Just because it did not work does not mean it was not a good plan!
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Reply To This Topic #29 Posted Aug 06, 2006, 09:42:37 pm

WOW, WOW, WOW, WOW.  Gypsy I love the stories that you give us.  They help me "be there".  You are a great writer and did I say wow!  Great Finds!  I really look foward to more in a few weeks.

Good Luck & Happy Hunting

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Reply To This Topic #30 Posted Aug 07, 2006, 03:24:56 am

WoW!  Shocked The Queen of Iron!

What a great story and pictures!

Keep it coming. I'm feeling highly motivated.

Super cleaning jobs too.

My main site is a major historic location also. Due to the owners of the property, I can't tell who or what at this time. But I can say my location is one of the most important historically for the state of Michigan. It took me 13 years to locate this site. I only found it because an old timer (now dead) gave me a tip.

So far I've dug maybe 300 good artifacts. I'm estimating that there are as many as 2000 to 5000 more at the site. This was a very large and early lumbering camp few even know about. I even found what appears to be a large horse drawn wheeled plow. See, Michigan lumberjacks only did their logging work during the winters. They needed the snow to slide the logs out and to kill the insects. During the summer they farmed, hunted, and canned foods. The plow is buried about 3 to 8 foot deep. It would take heavy equipment to dig and remove it.

This stuff is great fun!

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Reply To This Topic #31 Posted Aug 07, 2006, 03:47:51 am

Glad you could share this with us- nice pics and great work! Smiley

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Reply To This Topic #32 Posted Aug 07, 2006, 09:26:09 am

WoW!  Shocked The Queen of Iron!

What a great story and pictures!

Keep it coming. I'm feeling highly motivated.

Super cleaning jobs too.

My main site is a major historic location also. Due to the owners of the property, I can't tell who or what at this time. But I can say my location is one of the most important historically for the state of Michigan. It took me 13 years to locate this site. I only found it because an old timer (now dead) gave me a tip.

So far I've dug maybe 300 good artifacts. I'm estimating that there are as many as 2000 to 5000 more at the site. This was a very large and early lumbering camp few even know about. I even found what appears to be a large horse drawn wheeled plow. See, Michigan lumberjacks only did their logging work during the winters. They needed the snow to slide the logs out and to kill the insects. During the summer they farmed, hunted, and canned foods. The plow is buried about 3 to 8 foot deep. It would take heavy equipment to dig and remove it.

This stuff is great fun!

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Thanks alot. I am still waiting to post additional photos and the rest of the story. My camera died and I need to get a new one  to take pics of all this stuff I dragged home.
As far as cleaning any of my items...I laid them on the concrete and sprayed with the hose....thats it LOL!
There is a ton of stuff still there and it would take me an entire summer to go through it all. I plan on going back in a week or two.
I also dug up a horse drawn hay rake,but couldnt get it out . Have arranged for a man to help me with a tractor. Because you know...you never know when you might need one....Lord someone stop me ....I have more rusted iron than I know what to do with.

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Gyspy, all the luck with you,
have a nice time, waiting your post,
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Reply To This Topic #34 Posted Aug 07, 2006, 09:37:42 pm

Gypsie, your are an awesome writer & one kick ass treasure hunter! Unbelievable story & great pics too! This needs to go into the "Best of TN" catagory if Jeff hasnt put it in there already. Im hungry for more!  Grin

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Reply To This Topic #35 Posted Aug 07, 2006, 11:04:29 pm

A Hay Rake??? Oh my gosh, you're as bad/worse than me! Grin Grin

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Reply To This Topic #36 Posted Aug 08, 2006, 12:52:34 pm

Gypsie, your are an awesome writer & one kick ass treasure hunter! Unbelievable story & great pics too! This needs to go into the "Best of TN" catagory if Jeff hasnt put it in there already. Im hungry for more!  Grin
  I'll second that motion! Gypsy your finds are awe inspiring.Can't wait for the rest of the story.

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Reply To This Topic #37 Posted Aug 13, 2006, 12:58:48 pm

Post number 19's picture is the swimming hole i swam in as a young Free. The little road is locally known as Moonshine alley. Thanks for the pictures from back home.



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   You know Gypsy

    It couldn't hurt to offer up one sacrifice to the detecting Gods.
 C'mon!  Couldn't we offer up a Pete sacrifice?
    I mean heck!  If it didn't appease the Gods.
  I'm sure it would at least appease some people in here.  Grin
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Post number 19's picture is the swimming hole i swam in as a young Free. The little road is locally known as Moonshine alley. Thanks for the pictures from back home.
You should have been detecting the old store site and the town around it instead of swimming ...hahha...you wouldnt believe the stuff I pulled out of there. The old bridge is gone and you cant get there the old way. Went in to the end of Mooshine  Alley ,where the old logging camp was also. Great stuff. Took the canoe up river and tons of old places.

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Reply To This Topic #40 Posted Aug 13, 2006, 04:44:33 pm

Those are some nice Relics you found there on your big adventure!  I'm sure going back in the spring will produce many more nice items and some Coins...........!   Great job!   ;) ;) ;)

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Reply To This Topic #41 Posted Aug 13, 2006, 05:35:19 pm

Post number 19's picture is the swimming hole i swam in as a young Free. The little road is locally known as Moonshine alley. Thanks for the pictures from back home.
You should have been detecting the old store site and the town around it instead of swimming ...hahha...you wouldnt believe the stuff I pulled out of there. The old bridge is gone and you cant get there the old way. Went in to the end of Mooshine  Alley ,where the old logging camp was also. Great stuff. Took the canoe up river and tons of old places.
It is ok, i did not hunt then. Did you enjoy the trip back home.

Reply To This Topic #42 Posted Aug 13, 2006, 05:36:24 pm

   You know Gypsy

    It couldn't hurt to offer up one sacrifice to the detecting Gods.
 C'mon!  Couldn't we offer up a Pete sacrifice?
    I mean heck!  If it didn't appease the Gods.
  I'm sure it would at least appease some people in here.  Grin
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They would not eat one of their own.  ;)
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Reply To This Topic #43 Posted Aug 13, 2006, 06:22:48 pm

  Tongue   Groan....  Roll Eyes

Reply To This Topic #44 Posted Aug 13, 2006, 06:42:15 pm

I think this thread is so well written it belongs in Marc's Best of TNET right next to the Trail of Tears article. Plus then i can look at the old swimming hole where i had many fun times with the Hoogilan girls.
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Reply To This Topic #45 Posted Aug 15, 2006, 10:33:50 am

Finally broke down and bought a new camera last night and am still trying to figure it out. Here are some of the finds from the old town. Will be returning next week to take scenery photos. Fence stretcher is first pic  and then broad axe and splitter
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Reply To This Topic #48 Posted Aug 15, 2006, 11:47:24 am

so was the broad axe used by just the woman  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Grin kidding kick ass assortment of lost lives!!!!

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Reply To This Topic #49 Posted Aug 15, 2006, 12:30:46 pm

I see a sign in your future- it reads "Gypsy's Museum"  Smiley
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Reply To This Topic #50 Posted Aug 15, 2006, 12:55:13 pm

I see a sign in your future- it reads "Gypsy's Museum"  Smiley

More like "Gypsy's Scrap Yard"

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Reply To This Topic #51 Posted Aug 16, 2006, 01:44:05 pm

      Those are so cool to see!!!   The last pic. Is that a cheese cutter?
  Amazing stuff!   Keep it coming   WTG!!!       HH
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Reply To This Topic #52 Posted Aug 16, 2006, 02:53:56 pm

      Those are so cool to see!!!   The last pic. Is that a cheese cutter?
  Amazing stuff!   Keep it coming   WTG!!!       HH

Its a chopper dicer.....just because it was found in Wisconsin ...doesnt mean its cheese! Hahahah...and all those spoons....pure lead.
The chopper dicer was inside what was left of a cast iron cookstove.

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Reply To This Topic #53 Posted Aug 19, 2006, 08:06:58 pm

Gypsi;

As a fellow Cheesehead, I'm dying to hear more about this one........

Keep us posted

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Reply To This Topic #54 Posted Aug 20, 2006, 05:35:28 am

Gypsi;

As a fellow Cheesehead, I'm dying to hear more about this one........

Keep us posted

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Heading back this next weekend....hopefully with a camera that works !

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Reply To This Topic #55 Posted Aug 28, 2006, 02:05:13 pm

GYPSY I'M HOOKED CAN'T WAIT FOR MORE THANKS A MILLION FOR SHARING THIS, I WANT THE FIRST COPY OF THE BOOK. PLEASE!!
HAVE FUN AND BE CAREFULL, DON'T WORK THE GIRLS OR THE OLD BUCK TO DEATH OKAY.

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Reply To This Topic #56 Posted Aug 28, 2006, 07:59:53 pm

Been raining in mornings...90 degrees during day  and freezing at night. Mapping is really hard as I zigzag through about 1/2 mile square wet underbrush and waist high grass...plus falling in the river several times doesnt help! LOL. No serious detecting yet as I will wait till mapping done and marking potential sites. And for the grass to die down. They are running bear with dogs right now  and the baying is really annoying. We were really lucky to see a bear cross the trail about seventy feet  in front of us...but not lucky enough to get the picture. Kind of hard to run with two girls clamped to your legs ,scream and focus a camera...hahahaha.I also hit a great Indian Summer camp about five miles west down river...will post pics in another thread of that .   
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Reply To This Topic #59 Posted Aug 29, 2006, 01:54:43 am

Great pics and intresting site gypsy.

       I'm looking forward to your Next round of Relics.

                Jeff

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Reply To This Topic #60 Posted Aug 29, 2006, 05:59:04 am

Thanks Jeff....I am thinking I might need a bulldozer and flatbed to get all this iron out of here. Is scrap iron worth anything? If it is ....I am rich.  Smiley

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Reply To This Topic #61 Posted Aug 29, 2006, 09:32:05 am

I'm just curious Gypsy, have you found any documentation on Indian tribes in the area? That rock pile looks like something we have out here in Oregon. A rite of passage for Indians out here was to go out on their own for a week or two, starving themselves until they had visions.... all the while doing physical labor to help bring on the visions. Piling up rocks was one practice.

 Maybe the rock pile came from a farmer clearing his field though. Any ideas?
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Reply To This Topic #62 Posted Aug 29, 2006, 12:46:05 pm

Can't believe I missed this till now, that is just outstanding Gypsy!!!  What an awesome site and research!  Thanks for sharing a great post!  That Mill, built by Europeans, all the Mills I have seen here in Germany have been built away from the water source and a channel was routed from the water to the Mill.  Iron is selling for about $15.00 a ton in Europe, I've started saving Ox shoes again.  HH and I look forward to more, Mike
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Reply To This Topic #63 Posted Sep 02, 2006, 10:01:54 pm

Great post, I can't wait to hear the continuing story of your journey! 
I love this kind of stuff. 

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Reply To This Topic #64 Posted Sep 02, 2006, 11:43:23 pm

    Beautiful site and scenery!!!    Looks like a ton of fun camping out there.  Hope you brought some fishing gear. Looks like a good spot to get some fresh fish for dinner.   Can't wait for your next pics.     WTG!!!     HH
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Reply To This Topic #65 Posted Sep 03, 2006, 01:03:16 am

i cant believe i missed this thread either! what an awesome post! very well done gypsy! i feel as if i were there with you with the pictures and exellent writing! maybe you should plan a return trip in the late fall when the awful heat and the underbrush dies away some. it looks like you and the girls had a vacation that will be remembered for a long long time. this is really great stuff!

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Reply To This Topic #66 Posted Sep 03, 2006, 04:33:55 am

Gypsy you are a legend,can hardly wait for more postings.well done girls. Smiley
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Reply To This Topic #67 Posted Sep 04, 2006, 01:37:18 pm

I am so jealous of your site. You have done a great job doing this post, The history is coming alive through your pictures. I am looking forward to more pictures. I am proud of your work that you have done so far. I have a better
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Reply To This Topic #68 Posted Sep 04, 2006, 03:04:45 pm

You absolutely ROCK !!!
Go girls.......


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Reply To This Topic #69 Posted Sep 05, 2006, 07:23:49 am

anything new Gypsy ?

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Reply To This Topic #70 Posted Sep 05, 2006, 10:00:20 am

Gypsy,
     You have a gift for writing. The memory's that you are making with your girls on these outings will last forever. Years from now your grandchildren will listen wide eyed as your daughters tell story after story of the adventures that they shared with you. They are fortunate to have you. Keep up the good work. I always enjoy your post
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Reply To This Topic #71 Posted Sep 05, 2006, 06:59:36 pm

Wow- absolutly amazing. Nice read!! Can't wait for the "rest of the story"!
 how did I miss this thread? Too captivated by My own piddly finds- LOL Grin
 Good research Gypsy!!
 Congrats and tell Us more!!!!

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Reply To This Topic #72 Posted Sep 05, 2006, 09:48:44 pm

...and all those spoons....pure lead.

Gypsy, could those spoons be pewter?  Even though pewter spoons were used mostly before the mid-1800's, there were several companies making pewter table wares well into the 1920's.   Some pewter is rather soft, like lead.  I'm pretty sure it depends on the amount of antimony that was added. 

BTW great pics, that iron cleaned up nicely.  I am jealous of your relics  Grin Grin

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Reply To This Topic #73 Posted Sep 07, 2006, 11:10:18 am

Great post gyps! You should look for more Indian stuff in those areas.  I think you could find quite a bit. NEVER camp under a pine; thought you knew better. Just so you know Rusted Iron....ALL of the spoons gypsy finds are lead.  Grin

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Reply To This Topic #74 Posted Sep 07, 2006, 11:40:20 am

Great post gyps! You should look for more Indian stuff in those areas.  I think you could find quite a bit. NEVER camp under a pine; thought you knew better. Just so you know Rusted Iron....ALL of the spoons gypsy finds are lead.  Grin
Thanks everyone...I am again heading back there this weekend. And since the forest is pine...I dont have to much choices on where to camp.Haha.
And you are right....all of my spoons are lead.!

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Reply To This Topic #75 Posted Sep 08, 2006, 12:35:35 am

Great narrative.  Awesome finds.  Shouldn't have any trouble selling your story and pix to a magazine.  Or better yet, write a book and self-publish it.  I'd buy a copy!!   


That little cabin is the type of place I've been wanting to find/buy all my adult life.  What a cutey-pie.

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Reply To This Topic #76 Posted Sep 08, 2006, 03:14:53 am

Wow, Gypsy!  This is such a great story!  And it's not done.  So cool!  Looking forward to your post about the finds from the weekend.

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Reply To This Topic #77 Posted Sep 08, 2006, 05:28:05 am

Gypsy,I apologize for not getting thru this thread sooner.I got one word for it - Beautiful! and I'm talking not only about the scenery or the finds or your great ability to write,but the way you and your girls seem to be so intuned.The real treasure is the 'togetherness' and love you guys share with one another,it's apparent in many of your posts.I hope you have been keeping a scrapbook for these memories.All the best---Now! just where is that stream with all that bedrock?I hope you have been digging around the cracks of that rock and panning some gold!
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Reply To This Topic #78 Posted Sep 08, 2006, 06:34:55 am

Holy CATS!  You gals freakin' ROCK!!

That's - just beyond mere words.  When you get this published, I'm in line for a copy!

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Reply To This Topic #79 Posted Sep 08, 2006, 04:17:51 pm

How did I miss this........Sweetie now you are witnessing and experiencing research in action!!!!!......you have done an excellent research and a great field search.
Congrats!!!!!!.....Keep up the good work....my crew will be cheering for you...

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Reply To This Topic #80 Posted Sep 12, 2006, 10:41:55 am

Was able to hunt a bit....took a shortcut on the way out through a field and was followed by nosey horses....Found some really cool FDRoosevelt campaign buttons but cant get them to show up on camera correctly,also found some great silver/opal and silver /mother of pearl mens shirt studs,the old train light was also a nice suprise.....Lots of junk....still cleaning and digging....have to hit the silver soon.....
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Reply To This Topic #82 Posted Sep 12, 2006, 11:32:08 am

Once again.........More Excellent Relics !   Love the moon shine jug !!!  lolol

Sometimes you need to look back ........to a time that made you laugh and smile!  Memories of all the great times..... will always be there!!
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Reply To This Topic #83 Posted Sep 12, 2006, 12:57:30 pm

I hope you have your doctor's bag with you...to throw all that silver into, Gypsy!  Kiss

Great thread and pictures!  Smiley
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Reply To This Topic #84 Posted Sep 12, 2006, 01:06:26 pm

Great finds, Gypsy!!

Bring some sugar cubes for the horses next time.  They'll kiss you for it.

 ;) RR

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Reply To This Topic #85 Posted Sep 12, 2006, 01:28:09 pm

WOW, Wow and wow !!!!!!!!!! oh, and FANTASTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply To This Topic #86 Posted Sep 12, 2006, 03:00:08 pm

Good going! Cladius.
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Reply To This Topic #87 Posted Sep 12, 2006, 05:53:10 pm

Show us more.........when are you going again??? Take us we'll help!

When can we expect more?

A kind word echos for eternity
Random chance seems to have operated in our favor

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Reply To This Topic #88 Posted Sep 12, 2006, 10:03:46 pm

Nice pieces! I see there was a cobbler in the midst. This place is just totally awesome! HH and keep 'em comin'!
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Reply To This Topic #89 Posted Sep 13, 2006, 05:47:26 am

Wow! What a great bunch of relics. Looks like a great place to hunt!

The only ones for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the sky.
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Reply To This Topic #90 Posted Sep 13, 2006, 03:02:59 pm

WOWZA  Gypsy!

FANTASTIC FINDS! GREAT LINK! Thanks for all the pictures.
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Reply To This Topic #91 Posted Sep 21, 2006, 07:07:44 pm

Gypsy,
What a great story and an experience you and your girls will remember forever!
I love the North Woods it is great up there.
Thanks for sharing,
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Grrrrr!!!

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Reply To This Topic #92 Posted Sep 22, 2006, 10:37:23 am

WOW!!!!!!

I have the hottest pirate gear for sale! Please email me anytime for more pics and pricing on genuine Isabella Fiore Pirate Treasure Bags and wallets. this collection is now in huge demand!!!
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Reply To This Topic #93 Posted Oct 22, 2006, 04:13:24 pm

nice finds gypsy....i haven't hunted in about 6 months or so, but now that the weeds are dying I'll be out soon....found a button like that one back in february of this year

any ideas on how old it is?

here's a link to my post from february   http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,29339.0.html


Matt
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Reply To This Topic #94 Posted Oct 22, 2006, 04:34:15 pm

I am not exactly ,but they were different at the civil war era,then they went to this style sometime at the turn of the century....they stayed like this until they took the eagle motif...so maybe PBK can help us out ?

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Reply To This Topic #95 Posted Oct 25, 2006, 02:25:00 am

Very, Very kool Smiley

What a hobby
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Reply To This Topic #96 Posted Nov 22, 2006, 06:38:55 am

Wow Gypsy your a good writer!
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Reply To This Topic #97 Posted Nov 27, 2006, 06:38:28 pm

I'm just curious Gypsy, have you found any documentation on Indian tribes in the area? That rock pile looks like something we have out here in Oregon. A rite of passage for Indians out here was to go out on their own for a week or two, starving themselves until they had visions.... all the while doing physical labor to help bring on the visions. Piling up rocks was one practice.

 Maybe the rock pile came from a farmer clearing his field though. Any ideas?
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After studying the area for some time ,I found evidence of two stone covered graves directly across the river from the saw mill.I have been trying to get firm documentation on this,but was told by  a retired schoolteacher (who's grandfather had one of the first lumber yards) that an Indian Chief and his wife were indeed buried here. Evidently they both were sick and when they arrived here to trade,they died and were buried  by the townspeople in the woods.

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Reply To This Topic #98 Posted Nov 28, 2006, 10:22:10 pm

 ;) ;) ;)   MOST EXCELLENT!    ;) ;) ;)

I'm gonna NEED one of those books, girl!.....so I can say.."yup, I knew her when she vas chaseeeeng
de cheeeekins Smiley   Smiley   Smiley

You are an asset to us, and a blessing to Chey + Mo Smiley

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you till it seems you could not hold on a minute longer,
never give up then for that is just the place and time that
the tide will turn.

Harriet Beecher Stowe

Reply To This Topic #99 Posted Nov 29, 2006, 01:24:09 pm

Your article was very good it gave me cold chills. I hope to hear more soon. You have a real talent for writing. David Corby
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