Which is the biggest treasure in the world never found? Pirates,Masons,Spanish.?

I think the biggest treasure is the 3 hidden galleons of Kidd.
I think that the Goonies movie is based in that legend.

Well Saint,

Since we both are kind of 'newbies' ..let me be the first to say I enjoy your post. I have watched that movie..goonies..at least twenty times.

I think, and I could be wrong, many tv movies might be based on history.

Good Luck!

Carson.

The "Waterhouse Treasure"
29 or 30 BILLION dollars

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[grizzly bare The "Waterhouse Treasure"
29 or 30 BILLION dollars
grizzly bare
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Sheeze  Grizz, you are going to be on   "G'Boys"   list,  heheheh   (Yanma--deleted--a's gold, Philippines.

Tropical Tramp

Oak Island, Nova Scotia treasure...no one knows how much or even what is there...

This month a guy found a galleon in the north of Puerto Rico. Estimated 900 million dollars. They are fighting with the government to obtain the 50% of the treasure.

Oak Island, Nova Scotia treasure...no one knows how much or even what is there...

OAK ISLAND is most likely a hoax. The great majority of the facts of the story either aren't true, or don't match known history.

There are a couple of huge possibilities (none are proven true beyond a shadow of a doubt)

1. Montezuma's Gold (the gold is recorded to have existed at one time, but never found.

2. 100 tons of gold in New Mexico (It definitely existed in 1933, but has never been found)

3. Victorio Peak in New Mexico (93,000,000 troy ounces)(Story questionable depending on who you believe)

4. Emperor Maximilian's Crown Jewels and gold (It is known that they existed, but were never found after his death)

Those are probably the biggest in the US (ON LAND ANYWAY).

Best,

Mike

Gollum, the listed 680 mule loads of Au and 1200 bars of Ag at Tayopa? This is only one of 5 deposits, plus a very large one one day by mule ot the East.©

Will I ever tap it ?? who knows.

Tropical Tramp

Hey Jose,

Notice my disclaimer, "IN THE US, ON LAND"

If I were talking world, I would most definitely have included Tayopa. But then I would have had to include a ton of others and would have been typing all night!

I'm going to have to take a ride down there sometime and help you open up one or two of those babies sometime!

Best,

Mike

I don't think Oak Island is a hoax.  I have visited there many times and way too much effort had been put into the original dig to have been a hoax.  There is definitley something there.  I have spoken with one of the owners of the island, Dan Blankenship, and have learned much which has not been made public...enough to make me a firm believer.

I don't think Oak Island is a hoax.  I have visited there many times and way too much effort had been put into the original dig to have been a hoax.  There is definitley something there.  I have spoken with one of the owners of the island, Dan Blankenship, and have learned much which has not been made public...enough to make me a firm believer.

Hey Romeo,

I know the guy the new owners hired to do the history and background of the Pit for potential investors. There are a ton of facts that don't add up. Some are completely contradictory. When my guy brought that to the attention of the owners, not only did they renig on his contract, and not pay, but they tried defaming him in local press.

I believed in Oak Island until I read the true facts of the story. I'll give you a couple:

Story: The story is that Oak Island was uninhabited when the young boys discovered the depression under the swayed branch.

Fact: Not only was the island inhabited, but the families of all three lived on the island! Kind of hard to make a "voyage of discovery" to an islands where you already live! In an older map of the island, the original place of the money pit was listed as lot#18.

Story: The story of the finding of the Money Pit in 1795. Three young boys on a voyage of discovery, discover a depression on the ground under a swayed tree branch, with a length of rope hanging from the branch.

Fact: There is NOT ONE contemporary (1795) written article about the event. In a community as small as that, it would have been big news in the area. It would have made it into one of the two or three papers in the area. The first article about the Oak Island Diggings was in the Liverpool Transcript in (I believe) 1864 or 1859. that story was given to the paper by the the man looking for investors in his expedition.

This information and a lot more is available at criticalinquiry.org The site is down right now, but should be back up tomorrow.

Best,

Mike

In America I think it is The Lue trove. Here is the map. Good luck.

ericwt

[=gollum Hey Jose,

 I would have had to include a ton of others and would have been typing all night!
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I'm going to have to take a ride down there sometime and help you open up one or two of those babies --
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Only if you concede that "I AM" the  boss  there. hehehe,  remember I am after the deposits,  why mine when it has already been done for me?

Seriously, you are in the group that I would love to keep going on with.  As I learned in combat,  a large moving figure attracts more attention and is far easier to hit than someone like myself or DOC. snicker.

Tropical Tramp

=ericwt In America I think it is The Lue trove. Here is the map. Good luck.
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Morning  Eric,  there is a fascinating similiarity   between the Lue & Tayopa maps. Check the lower right  side of the Lue map with the Tayopa Map.

Tropical Tramp

No problem, BOSS! Yaowza Massah! Iza beeein raaaaht thayah! Feets don't fail me now!

But that just looks natural to me! ;) ;)

Mike

That Lue treasure map seems to have lots of stylized Masonic figures in it.  I'm sure others long before me have noticed that, too, however.

Anyway, for ME the biggest treasure yet to be found is the one I seek everyday.  I'm always hoping to find that one, giant, unknown cache that will make the front page of the papers.  I know that such an announcement would lead to many problems for myself (taxes, long lost relatives coming out of the woodwork, robbery attempts, possible kidnapping, etc.), but wouldn't that be grand to be on the cover of the New York Times WITHOUT a flag-draped coffin around me?   Yeah, I can see the headline now:  "Over-the-hill Californian finds a Mountain of Treasure  ...  More Photos on Page 2"

But as far as reality goes, I'd venture a guess that the largest unfound treasure would be the Spanish ships off the Florida coast that have yet to be found.

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No problem, BOSS! Yaowza Massah! Iza beeein raaaaht thayah! Feets don't fail me now!
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RealdeTayopa: From what I understand the Lue trove is actually multiple troves, so it might be possible that Tayopa is related.

I always love your photos of the Tayopa area.

ericwt

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RealdeTayopa: From what I understand the Lue trove is actually multiple troves, so it might be possible that Tayopa is related.
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HI, I doubt it since Tayopa was lost in the 1630's,  they are still looking for it.   What I was referring to was the similarity of using multiple triangles. In the case of the Tayopa cave map. it is an attempt to show conturs, or canyons/drainages.

Do you suppose ?
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I always love your photos of the Tayopa area.
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Tropical Tramp

I was raised to show respect to my elders!

Mike

=gollum I was raised to show respect to my elders!
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You've got it Pappy!

Mike

gollum You've got it Pappy!
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Tropical Tramp

What an interesting question!

In the ancient world, there are two cases of the national treasury disappearing at the time of Roman conquest, the fall of Carthage and the fall of Mauretania; in the first case there was no estimate of how much gold and silver but was believed to be thousands of talents of gold and more of silver;(a talent was about 110 pounds) in the second instance several hundred talents of gold and several thousand talents of silver vanished with the Roman armies searching frantically to find them; no one has ever found the tomb of King Solomon, which is believed to contain several thousand talents of gold and more silver; during the reign of Alexander the Great, the man he entrusted with the some of the captured treasury of the Persians (Harpalus) absconded with the gold (unknown amount) and silver (5000 talents) and fled first to Athens, then to Kyrene with a hired army of 5000 mercenaries and attempted to set up his own kingdom - Harpalus was killed and his attempt to set up a kingdom failed when Ptolemy intervened, and the mass of gold and silver stolen from Alexander has never been found.  The Knights Templar are believed to have amassed a huge treasure (part of the reason why the kings went after them) which has never been found too. 

In more recent days, the vast accumulation of gold of Montezuma that filled a room disappeared in the time between the Spaniards being expelled from the Aztec capital and their return months later - some clues point to this mass of gold being secreted in the US.  There is also the 17 tons of gold smuggled into the US by Mexican speculators and hidden which has never been found.  The Oak Island treasure is an unknown also, but several possibilities exist - such as the treasure of the Templars, perhaps buried by Henry Sinclair, or several other ideas.  Perhaps the greatest treasure never found is the Ark of the Covenant, a holy device built by Moses with supernatural powers, or the Holy Grail which is supposed to have caught the blood of Christ as he died on the cross - there is also the mass of treasure listed on the ancient Hebrew Copper Scroll which if true is thought to be worth some $50 BILLION today.  Then there is the "mother of all lost treasures" the lost mines of King Solomon, which have never been located.  They were supposedly so rich in gold that even working with the most primitive of tools and methods, the output was as much as 666 talents of gold per year, along with silver so plentiful it was described as common as stones in the street and gemstones as well which made Solomon the wealthiest man in the world in his day. 

There have been several great heists too, art heists,the Lufthansa heist ($5.8 million - not sure about this one but think it was never recovered) the Securitas robbery in the UK (53 million pounds not sure of dollar value), etc not to mention untold amounts that simply vanished when the Second World War ended.  You know when you think about it, if people ever thought about how much treasure has been lost and never recovered, they would simply not believe it.  Now I am getting some new ideas again - hmm!!!!

Oroblanco

Don't forget about the Ark of the Covenant! That would be a pretty big treasure!

Mike

Some studies said that the ark is under the Gorgota mountain (where Christ was crucified)
When Jesus died all the blood goes down throughout the floor and goes to the lost ark.

Wow never heard that one before!  Is there any article(s) on this online where I could read more?  Thank you in advance,
Oroblanco

I won't say anything.

Best,

Mike

Er, why not Gollum? Might be a great story!

Is the name Gorgota another way of spelling Golgotha?  (Wouldn't be the first time we have seen different spellings of names in the Holy Land)  I just never heard of this story of the blood flowing down to the Ark before - would like to hear more!

Oroblanco

The only two references I can find for Gorgota is a city in Romania, and a mountain in Ethiopia.

I'm sure it would be a great story. Please tell.

Something the size of Noah's Ark would be larger than Golgotha. It is a hill, not a mountain.

Best,

mike

Hi Mike, while Saint2529 didn't specify which ark exactly, I think it is safe to presume he was referring to the Ark of the Covenant, not Noah's Ark; the Ark of the Covenant is not too large (dimensions are in the Old Testament, smaller than some bedroom dressers or trunks) to be buried.  I would find it quite fascinating that such a holy relic, the most revered in existence (when it was not lost) would have been buried at Golgotha, a rather lowly place where trash was thrown and convicts executed.  Strange no?  I just had never heard this legend before, would LOVE to hear it!   ;) 

Hey wait a second, if there is a hill in Ethiopia named Gorgota, now isn't there a theory that the Ark of the Covenant ended up in Ethiopia?  Of course then how would Jesus have been executed there,  well outside the Roman empire?  I really would like to hear more of this story.

Roy ~ Oroblanco

oak island is a 50/50 shot i think it's one of those story's too old
to ever know the truth about how the story came about
there have been some bits i heard discovered from the "pit"
and last discovery channel click by show i saw not long ago said
there is someone currently funding a search today who is a real believer
to be dishing out the bucks to find out whats below
but somehow i think if it were a true tale of something really being there
someone with the engineering would have come along by now
we have technology that send us to the stars.. a 100 feet in the ground below an ocean
just doesn't seem like a large obsticle to defeat if there is that much payday
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below is a story the way i remember it being told to me, i may be wrong about the facts but the story is an example more less
here in connecticut, south of me about an hour is a small town called newtown,ct
there is is told that back in the day, there was a GOLD discovery in a remote
hillside stream bed, and the man or men who started it needed investors to properly retrieve the gold from it's location,.......
once they had enough to run with , skipped town with the investors money as you'd expect
i believe one of the investors was Ethan Allen (famous old guy revolution days?)
anyway... one or two of the investors, people who probly shelled out all of their money
to this ,or used the wifes money and had to have something return on it-
they moved this stream bed 3 or 4 times (you can still see today where it used to run and how they moved it around to try and locate where this gold was)
...do not think they ever did find any it was "salted" but the husslers to make it look like there is gold there,
(The location i found out about because it was in an early 1900's rock and mineral book i had some photocopy's of and do some mineral collecting/prospecting
and own a Herkimer crystal mineral claim in upstate NY for the last 25 yrs)
the NEWTOWN GOLD MINE was listed as a location of gold,quartz, and a few other minerals
-but just goes to show how far a story travels,even a small one
 and how much effort by those who do believe
can be amazing
i may go back to do some MD'n sometime,not for gold but stuff those who were there looking so long ago may have lost, but i'm sure it's been tried before me
and i got lots of places closer to home just as tasty sounding,so maybe the race is on now that i shared the location of a gold mine hehe
good luck to everyone

Hey Oro,

That makes much more sense in an engineering kind of way (Covenant vs Noah's). But I agree that it doesn't make much sense in a historical way.

Supposedly, the Ark is in Ethiopia, in a church. It is guarded by one man only. He spends his entire life as the Ark's Guardian. He is born into the job, and dies at the job. He is celibate, and doesn't ever do any drugs or drink any alcohol. He is as pure as the driven snow. They won't let it be photographed, but they do show the crowns of the old kings that are supposed to have come from Solomon's Temple. All this was in a documentary about the ark some years ago.

Best,

Mike

Hey Ledfoot,

Oak Island is a fraud. The entire story about three kids finding the deserted island in 1795, and then finding the depression in the ground with a cut rope hanging from a bent tree branch above the depression is fabrication.

Oak Island was not uninhabited. In a survey of the island from the late 1700s, the supposed place where the depression was is named "lot# 18" It was part of an old farm. There is also NOTHING  written about it at the time (1795). As small a community as that was, it would have been big news! There is no written account of the treasure until about 1859. That was the same time a group was looking for investors to find the treasure.

The gold link disappeared. The inscribed stone disappeared. I can find NOWHERE, any pictures of the coconut fiber that supposedly ran from the two bays on the island to the well. There should be PLENTY of it!

Best,

Mike

I would find it quite fascinating that such a holy relic, the most revered in existence (when it was not lost) would have been buried at Golgotha, a rather lowly place where trash was thrown and convicts executed.  Strange no?  I just had never heard this legend before, would LOVE to hear it!   ;) 

Roy ~ Oroblanco

What's the best way to hide the most revered treasure in history? Stick it where no-one will look.

Interesting note about Ethiopia. Do you know what Church? Can people visit it? I'd love to see it!

BTW,
It wouldn't shock me the least bit to find out a lot of these lost treasures were found, and never reported. This is what happens when you try to file a claim..

http://www.legendsofamerica.com/HC-Treasures5.html

Hello friends,

That Oak Island treasure is fairly well documented, and a lot of material is online.  There are photos of the engraved stone, the gold links, the bit of parchment etc though the actual items have disappeared considering we are talking about a treasure this should come as no surprise.  Here are a few of the many articles and websites on this mysterious site:

http://www.activemind.com/Mysterious/Topics/OakIsland/story.html

http://www.oakislandtreasure.co.uk/

Here is a photo of the bit of parchment that came up on the drill bit:



(from http://members.tripod.com/~Zomb/OAKISLAN.HTM )

Just do a Google search and you will turn up a couple million hits.

What the heck is buried there, and how much is it worth?  There have been many theories including Captain Kidd's treasure (strange since he was one of the least successful pirates of all), Blackbeard's treasure (again, odd since Teach's base of operations was far south in the Carolinas), loot from the French king, loot from the British king, some kind of Knights Templar treasure secreted there by Sir Henry Sinclair, an archive of texts written by Sir Francis Bacon which would prove he was the author instead of Shakespeare, even a holy burial site of Coptic christians fleeing the Muslim conquest of North Africa.  It is one of those mysteries that is similar to the pyramids, in that you can expound about any sort of theory and find ways for it to "fit".  Using the inscribed stone, several "translations" have been propounded, which led to several different "attacks" on the island by drills, heavy earth-moving equipment, giant pumps etc.  However, the various renderings of translations from the engraved stone almost certainly are wrong, and the stone may be something quite different from a "treasure" type marker entirely!  Here is a rendering of the stone: (there are photos online somewhere, don't have time to hunt them down)



Now, for all those who see Pirates or king's emissaries hand, just compare this type of inscription to ancient Berber and Tifinagh!



(from http://www.ancientscripts.com/berber.html)

Considering that ancient Berber pretty much fell out of use about 300 AD, what does that tell you?  Hmmm.....

The Oak Island mystery has led to some wild ventures and led to the deaths of several people!  How much the potential treasure might be worth is open to the sky, but we really don't know what might be there - it might be something quite different from gold coins or silver bars!  Unfortunately due to the ham-handed tactics used by earlier treasure hunters, it seems extremely unlikely that we will EVER learn what was deposited there with so much engineering and effort (even to the point of having had to build a sea-wall to keep the waters away while the traps were constructed) that one has to doubt the tales of pirate treasure or some royal emissaries fleeing in haste - this took TIME to construct, and considerable manpower - plus the cocoanut fiber for the trap tunnels which had to have been brought from quite some distance.  Oak Island has been the subject of several television programs, it is a fascinating mystery indeed.

Anyway Oak Island is one of the great remaining mysteries in our world, I hope to hear some day that someone has indeed found whatever it is that was buried there, be it pirate treasure, the Holy Grail or texts of Francis Bacon; (though that strange alphabet points to a much older source IMHO).  Hey, I like this, turnabout is fair play - now how do YOU like being in the "skeptic's seat" Gollum?  Hee hee!  You kept me on that seat for weeks, or at least it seemed like that - and I don't like being the "skeptic"!!! 

Then there is the Ark of the Covenant, which really disappeared from history.  There are theories and some wild claims about this too - even a movie made about the search for it (Indiana Jones) but the hard facts are difficult to find.  The Ethiopian claim to possess it is not backed by biblical sources - for their story goes that the Queen of Sheba (they claim her as well, and is possible - Strabo and Diodorus mention that eastern Ethiopia and what is today modern Yemen were ruled by one monarch for some time) had a child by king Solomon, and this son went to visit his father when he reached manhood; Solomon supposedly gave his son the Ark, who then secreted it away to Ethiopia for safekeeping.  This is where the Ethiopian story falls apart, since the Ark is still mentioned as being in Jerusalem several centuries later.  (This also quashes that claim that the Egyptian king who attacked Judaea after the death of Solomon took it, also since he never captured Jerusalem it is highly unlikely)  The Ark disappears when Nebuchanezzar attacked and captured Jerusalem, and we are pretty sure that the Babylonians didn't get it either, since they made a record of ALL the loot they captured and there is no mention of the Ark.  The Old Testament does give a clue, that the Ark was "hidden in it's place" where ever THAT might be!  I would find it highly unlikely that they would have chosen to bury their most sacred object outside the city walls in Golgotha (again, where garbage was tossed and criminals executed, an old stone quarry actually and difficult to dig in) but who knows?  There are theories that the Knights Templar dug it up and secreted it away (again another theory that it was buried in Oak Island!) but no proof.

The Ethiopian Ark is kept in a special small building with an iron fence and a full-time priest guarding it - no one is allowed to enter the enclosure, much less ever look upon the Ark.  If they DO have it (Graham Hancock is of the opinion they DO have it, that the Ark was carried there when the Babylonians attacked Judaea) and the stories from the Old Testament are true, it would be a very dangerous object and you would be risking your life to look on it!  There are theories that this Ark was really a giant capacitor, and that Moses used it as a sort of "magic" weapon, and there is some reason to think this might be the case.  (After all, Moses had been raised in Egypt and educated with royalty, and would have learned some of the "tricks" used by Egyptian priests - in fact there are Egyptian "arks" similar to the Ark of the Covenant so...?)

Dang it, almost forgot about what is perhaps the OLDEST lost treasure legend - the "Cave of Treasures" described in apocryphal biblical texts!  This cave supposedly holds the remains of Adam and Eve as well as severl of the earliest patriarchs, along with their treasures of gold, silver and gems, which cave was sealed in the time of Noah to preserve the remains from the biblical Flood.  People were out hunting for this hidden cave in the days of Ur and Abraham, and even before the pyramids were built.  How much was hidden there?  Who knows? 

This has been an interesting thread, thanks friends, and I hope you all have a great day!  ;)

your friend,
Roy ~ Oroblanco

PS Saint, I hope you will fill us in with more on that legend?   

Hey Roy,

Is that "Tripod" on the parchment? 

Here, read this on Oak Island:

http://www.criticalenquiry.org/oakisland/index.shtml

Best,

Mike

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Hello again,
Dang Mike I am starting to really wonder about you.  First you didn't notice that I had listed the Ark of the Covenant in an earlier post (reply #24, quote Perhaps the greatest treasure never found is the Ark of the Covenant, a holy device built by Moses with supernatural powers,) and posted Don't forget about the Ark of the Covenant! That would be a pretty big treasure!(reply #25), then you assumed that Saint (the originator of this thread) was talking about Noah's Ark instead of the same Ark of the Covenant even though we had just been discussing the Ark of the Covenant in the previous posts, now you think that the link address where I borrowed the photo from is on the parchment?  You think this Oak Island mystery is a "fraud" (your word) even though people have died searching for it, there IS a photo of the inscribed stone here on T-net (under the Oak Island thread) even several television documentaries have covered it, yet you buy into the whole Peralta stone maps story?    Yeesh.....

I will go read your link article, but really Mike is there something wrong?  Seems like something is wrong. 
Oroblanco

haha!!

There are theories that the Knights Templar dug it up and secreted it away (again another theory that it was buried in Oak Island!) but no proof.

The gatekeepers will stop at nothing to protect their "treasure", including re-writing history itself. I wouldn't be the least bit shocked to find they did take it, and if so noone will ever find it, unless someone shows them.

The Ethiopian Ark is kept in a special small building with an iron fence and a full-time priest guarding it - no one is allowed to enter the enclosure, much less ever look upon the Ark.  If they DO have it (Graham Hancock is of the opinion they DO have it, that the Ark was carried there when the Babylonians attacked Judaea) and the stories from the Old Testament are true, it would be a very dangerous object and you would be risking your life to look on it!  There are theories that this Ark was really a giant capacitor, and that Moses used it as a sort of "magic" weapon, and there is some reason to think this might be the case.  (After all, Moses had been raised in Egypt and educated with royalty, and would have learned some of the "tricks" used by Egyptian priests - in fact there are Egyptian "arks" similar to the Ark of the Covenant so...?)

Now that you mention that, I remember seeing a show on the History channel about this. They showed a picture of the building it's suppost to be in I believe. Old and run down looking.

Dang it, almost forgot about what is perhaps the OLDEST lost treasure legend - the "Cave of Treasures" described in apocryphal biblical texts!  This cave supposedly holds the remains of Adam and Eve as well as severl of the earliest patriarchs, along with their treasures of gold, silver and gems, which cave was sealed in the time of Noah to preserve the remains from the biblical Flood.  People were out hunting for this hidden cave in the days of Ur and Abraham, and even before the pyramids were built.  How much was hidden there?  Who knows? 

  That would be the biggest treasure in history!! Great, now I have something else to keep me up all night on the internet reading about...

That's the correct show! Nobody gets in to see it, except that one man. I guess it boils down to faith again! You have to have faith that the Ark is in that little building. Those old crowns they keep are a good help to their story, though!

How to get in there to see it? HHHMMM. I wouldn't want what happened to the Nazis in "Raiders of the Lost Ark" to happen to me!


best,

mike

Hello friends,
It is funny (as in sheesh, not haha) that of all nations, Ethiopia seems to be alone in having a sort of "Ark" fetish - every Christian church in the land there has its' own "Ark" reproduction.  On high holy days, these reproduction Arks are paraded around the streets, though they are usually draped with cloth covers so no one can look upon them.  Hancock thought this was strong (if suggestive) proof that there is something behind the screen....


(artists' conception, reproduction below)


Judaea and Ethiopia had good relations (mostly, did fight a couple of wars though) and recent DNA tests prove the Ethiopians are blood-relatives of Hebrews.  If you were the High Priest in Jerusalem and knew the city was to fall into the hands of 'infidels' like the Babylonians, where would you hide the holy Ark?  There were large colonies of Hebrews in Sw Spain (Sephardic) and even in Carthage; but both of these places were also 'infidels' so...?  Egypt would not be safe enough, as they had proven too weak militarily; why not Ethiopia? There were colonies of Jews there, which probably did date to the time of Solomon, and most of the country did become Christian later (though we don't know how many were Jews prior to conversion) and Ethiopia was strong enough that they were not conquered until the 1900s (Italy, and even then it was a close-run thing!) so perhaps it would have seemed a safe haven.  My problem with the theory is in how would they have gotten the holy Ark OUT of the city, with an enemy army encircling the whole place?  There are tunnels in Jerusalem, but do any of them run out far enough to get beyond an enemy army?   

I too would LOVE to have a peek inside that building, see "what is behind curtain number one" but how in heck would I know if it were THE Holy Ark or a reproduction?  Gold doesn't tarnish (much anyway) over centuries, and the Ark is supposed to be plated with gold.  I suppose you could look inside, and if the two stone tablets with the Ten Commandments were there - but then they too might be reproductions and we don't even know what type of writing the ancient Hebrews might have used while in the "exodus" phase, would it have been in Egyptian heiroglyphics, or perhaps Akkadian cunieform?  It would be pretty neat to see it though.   

Oroblanco

I too would LOVE to have a peek inside that building, see "what is behind curtain number one" but how in heck would I know if it were THE Holy Ark or a reproduction?

I'm sure it would be immediatly obvious 

tombs of the two richest men never found  gensis knan and attila the hun

The nuke awaiting the Iranians.

In mona passage are a lot of sunked galleons. The only problem is that no men can dive there.

   Can't believe no one has mentioned the lost tomb of Genghis Khan.All the porters were killed to keep the location secret,which it has been all these years.  Edit:Whoops I just saw the earlier mention...Oh well, still would be an amazing discovery.

I think I missed one of the major possibilities!

The tomb of the first Chinese Emperor Shi Huangdi. The one with a man made mountain built over it. They have found the 6000 man pottery army that guards it.

http://www.anniebees.com/China/China_42.htm

Best,

Mike

there are things too holy for mere men to privately "own" the order of the knight templers were sworn to "protect"  these holy objects of the church at the cost of their own lives--they were very holy men ---they rejected the "application" of prince phillip "the fair" of france to be admitted to their order due to his greedy and unfair nature as being "unfit" to belong--in anger he bribed many cardinals to vote in pope clemet as "the new pope" clemet was related to the "imfamous" borsa family---he then ordered the arrest and death of the templers on "friday the 13th"(to this day --friday the 13th-- is know as a bad day because of this)---they were tipped off and smuggled the "holy objects and their vast treasury"  far away for safe keeping to prevent the "unclean" leaders ---prince phillip and clemet for getting their hands on them---the "pope" as "payment" to phillip "declared" falsely that the templers were "using pagan and vile acts" as part of their secert rites---and ordered their lands out side of france be taken by the church and their "accounts" in the church banks seized--the debt owed to them by the frech king was wiped out and their large holding infrance forieted to the crown and all members of the order were to be put to death---the templers then went "underground" and invented "special greetings" and other ways to "indentify" one another in order to "protect" themselves from killers sent by the pope and prince to hunt them down and find out where they had hidden the treasures--both the pope and prince phillip did not live long after doing their foul deeds---they say the pope died of cancer about 3 months later and they say about 5 months later the "prince" died in a "hunting" accident---the treasure remains hidden to this day and is protected by decendents of the holy men who had sworn their lives to "prevent" in from falling into power hungry and vile men hands--for a "unclean" person to touch the arc is a death the bible states---that is why "poles" are used to carry it so as not to touch it---some things are best left alone---some say the modern "masonic" order "the masons" came from the early knight templers order---Ivan

Some of what you say is true, but not most of the Templars' History.

Actually, the Templar Knights were sworn to protect the Christian Travelers to the Holy Lands. They had nothing to do with any Holy Relics. There is a story that they found a Holy Relic while living in Jerusalem (That story has NEVER been verified). Many people think the story is true, and that the Holy Relic was the Holy Grail (but again, never proven).

As far as the demise of the Templars, they began collecting tolls from travelers (against EVERYTHING they stood for). Their original name was The Poor Knights of Christ and the Temple of Solomon. They invented the first banking system. What they would do was to take the travelers' money, and give them a signed note which they could redeem when they got to Jerusalem. They charged a fee for that service. They became fabulously wealthy over the years. King Philip was almost broke. He asked the Templars for money, and they refused to give him any. Philip went to the Pope and with falsified testimony, got permission to arrest the Templars. His sole purpose was to get their money. He got nothing. All their treasures disappeared.

What happened to the Templars? The most likely thing to have happened to them was the civilians in the area that is now known as Switzerland were in danger of attack from the Visigoths (I believe). They were saved by a large group of knights, dressed in white, who drove the Visigoths away. It is widely thought that those knights were the Templars. If you look at how they ran their banking business, and compare it to how the Swiss Banking System works, they are almost identical. Most likely, the Templars secretly founded the country of Switzerland.

Best,

Mike

yes they set up banking as a means to protect the travelers and acted as "body guards"---why attack the travelers if they had little money upon them? and in case folks attacked the travelers for their "private" jewelry and such that were upon them-- the templers acted as "bodyguards"---they became widely known and their services were in demand as a means of funding the order they charged a fee for the "protection" of both wealth and body---they were well known for both their honesty and bravery --due to their long time spent in the holy lands and the templer order being quite wealthy they funded many searches for and found many of the "holy items" of the church and acted as "guardians" of them----there was no problem with this and they held very high status within the church--- their problems started when they snubbed prince phillip who want to join "them" as a way to get at their money---although of a royal bloodline he was of a greedy nature and foul temperment-- which caused him to be refused both for membership and for "loans" --the templers deem him as "unfit" to be a member and "bad" credit risk as well as a "bad person" in general--they did not wish to "prop" up a bad leader by loaning him money as he was famous for using his "royal powers" to avoid payment of money owed----their judgement was proven right--- after being turned down in spite and greed --he rigged the election for the pope and they worked together to "strip" and destroy the templer order--by him "swearing" that thet were doing vile acts and the pope agreeing with him they were "set up"--- to call either the king or the pope a "lair" was death---the templers lands "in foreign countries and the money in church accounts" were taken by the church which made them wealthy over night--the lands in france the crown got to sell for money and massive debts owed by french crown to the templers wiped out---they had hoped to get both the "main templer treasury and the holy objects" that the templers held but got neither as the templers caught wind of their plans somewhat and hid them far away for safe keeping form these greedy vile and lying men------by the way you are quite correct some of the knights did indeed go to the swiss and aided them thus gaining them a "safe haven" look at the swiss flag and you will see their cross and coat of arms---Ivan

Gollum wrote:

Most likely, the Templars secretly founded the country of Switzerland.

Greetings Mike and everyone,

Now there is an interesting statement Mike!  Switzerland's original three cantons did win a sort of independence around the same time as the wiping out of the Templars, their flag is similar, and they were renowned as soldiers for centuries as well as being bankers.  The Templars had mentioned some interest in founding their own monastic state, much as the Teutonic knights had done in Prussia...so...it is not a great leap of logic to add 2 and 2. 

On the negative side, Switzerland has a long history reaching back into the Roman days; it seems logical that if the Templars did found the country, they would have had no need to hide this fact.  Why should they have changed their flag or symbols at all, for that matter. 

Would you care to explain more in support of the Templar->Switzerland theory Mike?  It is an interesting idea, and you must have reason(s) for saying what you did.  I would like to hear why they would have done this in secret too?  Thank you in advance,
Roy ~  Oroblanco

Maybe because they were on the run from both France and more importantly, the Catholic Church!

If you were on the run, with a large treasury, and had every good Catholic in Europe looking for you, would you not try and hide your identity? That's not much of a leap of faith to believe either. Pretty straightforward logic, and not much to the imagination.

Best,

Mike

   Also the Russian "Amber Room" is still thought to be hidden somewhere.

What if Oak Island was a trap for the navy, and at the same time a simple part of a land form map axis leading to the best guarded fortress in America? (Superstition Mountains & the most feared  Apaches).  What if the pirate captain worked out a deal with the monks, to save their souls before execution?  The largest Jesuit vault in the world was already there in Arizona back in the day. Don't you think it's about time to turn over the pooh and look somewhere else?  Twisted

They probably have all these treasures locked away in the secret rooms at Fort Knox ;)....lol j/k

Try laying a French curve protractor across a copy of the Kidd skeleton head maps using key points and remove the skull cap.  Slide the smaller section  around on the larger one to line up matching points at right angles and see what happens.  Fun stuff.  Twisted

The "lost library of Alexandria"  That would be the ultimate treasure to me. The history and knowledge it must contain would be amazing. But i dont think they hid it here in VT, lol

Possibly the truth.

 As far as knowledge, probably Alexandria or Atlantis libraries. Gold, probably Coco's Island. Most
valuable, probably Ark of the Covenat or Ramsey's tomb. Largest, probably Tayopa.

The temple of god, in the lost city of atlantis.  check it out in , "the mystry of atlantis "  by charles berlitz.  describes the temple.

my wife.




HH DDEII

   Can't believe no one has mentioned the lost tomb of Genghis Khan.All the porters were killed to keep the location secret,which it has been all these years.  Edit:Whoops I just saw the earlier mention...Oh well, still would be an amazing discovery.

Somebody dug up this old chestnut of a thread, but that was the "known but undiscovered" treasure that came to my mind.  'Ol Chinggis sleeps somewhere in Mongolia with a LOT of choice plunder from most of the known world at the time.

IMHO the greatest treasure - the Library of Alexandria - was lost and destroyed by fire.

Durned extremest Theophilius and his radical Christians put us back 3,000 years.   

How about that gold hoards that the Nazis buried in the Austrian Alps?
It is said that some of the treasure was dumped in lakes as well.

The "lost library of Alexandria"  That would be the ultimate treasure to me. The history and knowledge it must contain would be amazing.

+1

Closer to home...The 1,600 Spanish burro pack train of gold and silver, supposedly about 15 miles East of Albuquerque, New Mexico. Course I don't know how much a burro can carry

its not in fort knox,knew a man in the service there ---gaurded a room for yrs ....on day during gaurd change he got a peek inside the room he had been gaurding--------------------the room was empty!!!!!!!!    so much for the gold standard    (this was yrs. ago)

[repeatedly burned]

The library of Alexandria was repeatedly burned - not just by Theophilus, but FIRST by good old Julius Caesar, and before Theophilus there was the attack by Roman emperor Aurelian, and don't forget the Arabs also burned the books (to heat bath waters) in 642 AD.  There were still enough books remaining even at this date to supply "firewood" to heat bath water for six months!  So to get the full library you would need to get it prior to the arrival of Caesar, not the Christians.....

Good luck and good hunting, I hope you find the treasures that you seek.
Oroblanco

I would stand behind the fellow whom claims the gate keepers will keep it hidden.
I don't think the government has any of the big ones, or they would be using it already.
The picture of the ark is a good one, what it really looks like.
Besides do you think you would live long if anyone actually found out if any of you knew where any of it was?
Think about your friends and family,,,the pain they will endure.
wyoming