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Reply To This Topic #100 Posted Feb 21, 2007, 04:53:41 am |
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maybe the other parts to it are miising and it is a dial for a heater 1 being the coolest setting 15 the hotest (an electric heater maybe)
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Reply To This Topic #101 Posted Feb 21, 2007, 06:04:31 pm |
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Reply To This Topic #102 Posted Feb 21, 2007, 06:35:59 pm |
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I'd say part of an old combo lock
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Reply To This Topic #103 Posted Feb 22, 2007, 05:36:14 am |
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For all it is worth. I would guess this is the drop index for a fertilizer spreader. The higher the number the more lime/grass seed is dropped per square foot.
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Reply To This Topic #104 Posted Feb 22, 2007, 05:45:42 am |
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ivan salis claimed to know... I asked for some kid of independent verification but he has not returned? Maybe he was kidding and I feel for it hook, line, sinker. I am quoting myself, which I guess I probebly do often! Anyway... ivan salis PM'd me with his guess, and his explaination... which is basically stated above in his post... I find it interesting and intriquing but do not give too much credit as a fact based quess.  Happy days all! Seaweednh... Welcome to treasurenet! Yes, I think we had that suggestion a while back... it might be a spreader adjustment.
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Reply To This Topic #105 Posted Feb 22, 2007, 08:43:49 am |
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Looks like a stroke counter for golf. I wouldn't keep track after double bogey myself, but who knows.
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Reply To This Topic #106 Posted Feb 22, 2007, 09:48:45 am |
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Ok - here's my guess since no one has positively identified it..
it's from an alien spacecraft - as they abducted humans this gadget was attached to the turnstile as a counter ...
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Reply To This Topic #107 Posted Feb 22, 2007, 10:35:23 am |
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A crossbow mechanism? (for holding back the string before you fire/shoot)
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Reply To This Topic #108 Posted Feb 22, 2007, 09:06:33 pm |
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It stops when it gets to 15 (tab interferes with the pointer) so what do we count in 15's?
15 ounces before the next one makes 1 lb?
But there appears to be no stop that would "click" it, so my guess is something passes between the tips of the gear to move it, like a single tooth on a round wheel that advances it every revolution. But it's not very rugged so the stop would only be capable of halting something very light.
Another question is did it count up or down? Set it for dispensing a powder?
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Reply To This Topic #109 Posted Feb 24, 2007, 02:10:39 pm |
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I saw this in Barry'd Treasures web page. It is a Middle TN relic case. In the upper left hand corner is a piece similar to your only older. They said it was a internal clock part. 
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Reply To This Topic #110 Posted Feb 25, 2007, 09:53:53 am |
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This thing is not a hand made one of a kind item, somewhere there is or was a plant tooled up to stamp these out by the thousands. It looks like a lot of things but I will bet the farm it is a simple counter, no way it is a sprocket or any other mechanical part it is stamped sheet aluminum! and if a machine engaged the notch repeatidly the stop would show conciderable wear, plus how is it gonna reset? It cant be part of a bike look how it was mounted,tabs. There are no mechanical connection points. Logically it has to be a manual counter. It is the only theory that can't be shot down. Without a photo that is as good as it will ever get until someone who has used one reads this post and puts it out of its misery.
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Reply To This Topic #111 Posted Feb 25, 2007, 03:01:50 pm |
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I have seen somthing like this on a crop duster. Each # was more or less of dust.Hillbilly Bread<><
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Reply To This Topic #112 Posted Feb 25, 2007, 05:32:42 pm |
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this is a longshot .. but older tippman 98 paintball markers have dials to adjust the rate of fire ... 1 to 15 balls per second.
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Reply To This Topic #113 Posted Feb 25, 2007, 06:27:05 pm |
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somehow reminds me of the dial you turn on a seed sower to regulate the flow of seed.
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Reply To This Topic #114 Posted Feb 26, 2007, 08:37:28 am |
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I don't know what it is but now I want to know about the brass acorn....
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Reply To This Topic #115 Posted Feb 27, 2007, 07:30:56 pm |
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just thinking
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Reply To This Topic #116 Posted Feb 28, 2007, 05:25:17 am |
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I can't believe this thread has been going on this long, you guy's need to get out more often anyone for a game of pool or snooker ! 
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Reply To This Topic #117 Posted Feb 28, 2007, 07:17:07 am |
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I can't believe this thread has been going on this long, you guy's need to get out more often anyone for a game of pool or snooker !  Hey You Got It! And you were not even trying. 15 Balls in Billiards. Rotation game counter. 1-15 Tony
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Reply To This Topic #118 Posted Mar 02, 2007, 05:45:47 pm |
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My first thought was a sprocket for a grandfather clock. For the chains that operate the balance weights. However I think that they go or turn more than 360 degrees. So my next thought is that it is a calibration tool that is chain driven and I think that it would place the chain in a vertical position. So what ever the other end or sprocket was attached to would move in less than 360 deg. It would not be a direct mechanism to the actual work being done but rather a type of counter for informing the operator of a type of measurement. Someone mentioned seeing something like this on a boiler. Sounds exactly like what it is to me.
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Reply To This Topic #119 Posted Mar 02, 2007, 10:01:24 pm |
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an ancient fertilizer spreader wheel thingy!
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Reply To This Topic #120 Posted Mar 03, 2007, 07:59:39 am |
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maybe the sandman uses it to measure precise amounts of sand to put people of various sizes to bed so they don't O.D.
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Reply To This Topic #121 Posted Mar 03, 2007, 10:25:18 pm |
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Somthing to set the debth or height on a saw blade
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Reply To This Topic #122 Posted Mar 03, 2007, 10:58:04 pm |
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LMAO Relic Lover!  too funny!
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Reply To This Topic #123 Posted Mar 10, 2007, 06:02:55 pm |
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Looks like the counter wheel off an old box camera. Used to let you know when you got to 15 exposures.
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Reply To This Topic #124 Posted Mar 28, 2007, 06:27:19 pm |
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I'm new to this site but can't seem to give up on this item. To me it looks like it's a counting mechanism from a factory - like it may count out 15 cigarettes; then drop them into a box. Or crayons. Something little and pencil-shaped. Pencils? Then it starts recounting again.
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Reply To This Topic #125 Posted Mar 29, 2007, 03:05:01 pm |
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Well I will throw my guess into the mix too...I have never seen anything exactly like this but it reminds me of the little dial on a rain guage to keep track of rainfall amounts between rains. If you dump out 1 inch of rain you move the dial 1 notch, 2 inches of rain=2 notches. it would keep a running total of rainfall. Just a guess tho...
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Reply To This Topic #126 Posted Apr 07, 2007, 02:57:15 pm |
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Hello Musclecar.
Interesting section and have just seen your picture. Im pretty sure there would be 2 of these(one either side). My Mech Eng experience leads me to that at the very least.
Im pretty sure this is mechanical counter that is used to detect, totalize and indicate a sequence of events. It does not use any electrical power source. There are four basic types of counter revolution counters, rotary counters, stroke counters, and pushbutton or manual counters. Revolution, (count each revolution of a shaft) Rotary, (record a specified number of counts per rotation) Stroke, (record one count for each stroke). Pushbutton, ( used for manual counting by the operator and records one count for each actuation. Most pushbutton counters or manual counters are handheld devices.
Mechanical counters can be reset with a manual knob or lock and key (should be a small opening to fit the key or "stop device". The number of digits will be in the display. This determines the counting range. These type of mechanical counters may be able to perform both counting and timing functions. Some of these are equipped with double shafts can have left and right extensions for separate left and right. Specialized mechanical counters may use a dial indicator in place of rotating digits on a wheel.
Mech Counters are used in copy machines, printing presses, cut-off machines, and part-counting applications and can be used with material handling equipment, rapid transit vehicles, street sweepers, farm machinery, carts for recreational use, and construction equipment.They are also used in gaming machines, vending machines, and depth-flow meters.
Well, what does this mean? The answer is I cant tell you exactly what application this couter was housed in and for but I am certain that given its size its definately not used in a vending machine as it is a visual counter. I hope this may jog maybe a farmers memory. A clue would be in where it was found and the history determing the site from whence this was found.
Good Luck! Great Post
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Reply To This Topic #127 Posted Apr 07, 2007, 05:23:34 pm |
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It looks to me like it could be a volume knob.
Probably not from an amp, though, since it goes to 15. Nigel Tufnel's tuning knobs go as high as 11, but he had them custom made.
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Reply To This Topic #128 Posted Apr 08, 2007, 05:19:58 pm |
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Please look at my museum website..... louisianahistorymuseum.org My playtoy site: genius-antiques.com
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Reply To This Topic #129 Posted Apr 18, 2007, 03:53:23 pm |
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GLAD TO SEE U STILL GOT IT!
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Reply To This Topic #130 Posted Apr 18, 2007, 03:55:11 pm |
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This one is going to keep me up tonight... it is SO darned familiar! I feel I've seen this before... somewhere... it has to be something simple.
Does this stupid picture I made jog anyone's memory???
BIRTH CONTROL PILL CONTAINER...DAY 4
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Reply To This Topic #131 Posted Apr 18, 2007, 05:03:10 pm |
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This one is going to keep me up tonight... it is SO darned familiar! I feel I've seen this before... somewhere... it has to be something simple.
Does this stupid picture I made jog anyone's memory???
BIRTH CONTROL PILL CONTAINER...DAY 4 Michelle... Good one!  But whats deal with only 15 days?  Too funny.
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Reply To This Topic #132 Posted Apr 18, 2007, 05:47:17 pm |
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by god I think I have it---seriously ---I seem to remember the object before but could not "place it" I do honestly believe its a tracker trailer refrigeration unit timer every 15 hours it kicks over to dethaw mode tp prevent icing up--I seen to remember seeing them aboard ship on the units we carried overseas--let me check online and see if I win the prize -there has to be a prize right? don't tell me it the dang thing ain't it? Ivan
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Reply To This Topic #133 Posted Apr 19, 2007, 12:06:57 am |
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The question is - will Ivans sails be full? 
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Reply To This Topic #134 Posted Apr 19, 2007, 01:44:20 pm |
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dang no one can seem to find one or what it is --know I seen that beast before but where and when--- this many folks thinking this long and hard on a subject and not ccoming up with a "provible" to others answer is rare.
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Reply To This Topic #135 Posted Apr 19, 2007, 03:14:16 pm |
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 very intersting but it does look familiar
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Reply To This Topic #136 Posted Apr 19, 2007, 04:08:08 pm |
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This one is going to keep me up tonight... it is SO darned familiar! I feel I've seen this before... somewhere... it has to be something simple.
Does this stupid picture I made jog anyone's memory???
BIRTH CONTROL PILL CONTAINER...DAY 4 Michelle... Good one!  But whats deal with only 15 days?  Too funny. LOL....No idea...but it sounded good!
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Reply To This Topic #137 Posted Apr 20, 2007, 05:51:23 pm |
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Hi Everyone,
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but to me it looks like one of those code decipher toys. I don't think all of its there, but what you would do is point to the alpha or numeric character that was listed that was written down and then look in the little open square box and find out what the real alpha or numeric character was. Just a guess.
Your Friend,
Steve in Michigan
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Reply To This Topic #138 Posted Apr 20, 2007, 05:54:14 pm |
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Oh, by the way, I forgot to say that I believe there is another spoked wheel that goes along with this or maybe two that move when the numbers are moved.
Steve in Michigan
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Reply To This Topic #139 Posted Apr 23, 2007, 08:57:24 am |
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I have followed this thread for a long time, and I hate to admit it it is haunting me... I have seen this thing before !! But, alas, I cant place it !! But I have also been to Alaska several times (where the poster origianlly found the item), and for some reason I feel like thats where my inner psyche is trying to place it. I can almost see it sliding or hanging on a wire or small steel rod, attach to the rod with the clips on the back. The clips look like they havent been opened so the rod slipped out. This thing hung from or slid back and forth on the steel rod. AHHHHH !! I can see it , but I cant place it... It has something to do specifically with typical industry or items found in Alaska... Fishing, Stove furnace, logging, canning, maybe I have seen it on a fishing boat... I know I have nothing concrete to add but maybe just jogging someone elses memory maybe be my only contribution.... Oh aluminium dial thing with numbers, WHY do you torment me !!!
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Reply To This Topic #140 Posted Apr 24, 2007, 12:10:22 am |
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Kia Ora ryancII, Do not think you are the only tormented one!  After weeks of humming and harring, I have just today distributed the pics of this device, amongst all my very technically qualified work colleagues and asked for their opinion. I did anticipate and have since received, lots of uuummmmmmm's. I have even offered any successful colleague, a nice bottle of fine New Zealand wine  Cheers, Mike
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Reply To This Topic #141 Posted Apr 24, 2007, 12:54:24 am |
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The first thing that I thought of when I saw the picture, was a sparkplug gapper. I really doubt that that is what it is. I like the idea of it being a game bird counter of some sort.
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Reply To This Topic #142 Posted Apr 24, 2007, 05:58:28 am |
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The first thing that I thought of when I saw the picture, was a sparkplug gapper. I really doubt that that is what it is. I like the idea of it being a game bird counter of some sort.
mhess.... Welcome to treasurenet! And... welcome to the madness... ;)
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Reply To This Topic #143 Posted Apr 24, 2007, 01:31:13 pm |
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ok I think that this goes onto the side of something the two prongs (by the point) slide into slots then the tabs secure it then there is a second gear goes throw the back and turns when you turn the dial moving internal part. This is why I think it is a stove or heater dial. hope this helps erik
and ps I am a fisherman and don't remember seeing it on there
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Reply To This Topic #144 Posted Apr 25, 2007, 08:48:13 am |
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reminds me of a heat register adjuster 
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Reply To This Topic #145 Posted Apr 25, 2007, 09:06:37 am |
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Ok this is it.. We need to have some sort of finality to this thread. I know I am a greenhorn when it comes to treasure net, but this thread has driven me crazy. I will offer this: Proof: Evidence of what this is... pictures, or PBK saying this is it.. Prize: http://www.tastesofchicago.com/ My hometown food and the best food in the world ($100 limit) And to top off --- We have New Zealand Wine. I would do research just for that...
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Reply To This Topic #146 Posted Apr 26, 2007, 12:31:41 am |
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In Honour of ryan's magnanimous gesture, I vouch to send a bottle of excellent NZ wine, to the person who solves the puzzle with a picture and explanation. An interesting suggestion from one colleague today - a bullet (cartridge) counter - I googled it and all it's various connotations - nothing close at all. But I think the suggestion still has merit. Call me an idiot but doesn't the counter count to 14 not 15? There are only 14 countersunk areas (available to whatever moves it) on the sprocket. If it was to do with bullets, could you have 14 in the mag and one up the spout? Otherwise, 14 pounds = 1 stone, 14 days = two weeks I love this site, Cheers, Mike
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Reply To This Topic #147 Posted Apr 26, 2007, 06:51:13 am |
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trikikiwi , Thats the Spirit!!
Interesting thought on the bullet idea, although it seems to be a little to complex of a device to do what you describe. Although in the end , I would not be surprised at all if you are correct.
The funny thing is when I go out to my garage , if I saw this device I would say ..Ah Ha ! theres my counter thing.
Or if something was broken I would say "where the heck is my aluminum counter thing", so I can fix whatever was broken...
My point is this device is so common that if I saw it in the context of daily life I would know exactly what it is used for... but it still is a mystery looking at it here..AHHHH.
I will raise a glass of NZ wine with you, in honor of the guy/girl that can solve this puzzle.
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Reply To This Topic #148 Posted Apr 26, 2007, 10:09:36 am |
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I emailed a picture to a friend of mine and this is what he says: Appears to be part of the cold control mechanism from an early 1930’s Frigidaire refrigeration system. They had a dial with gear like settings that looked very similar to this. Thanks for the Inquiry! John M. Jowers www.AntiqueAppliances.come-mail: john@antiqueappliances.com ( US Postal mailing address) AntiqueAppliances P.O. Box 389 Clayton , Georgia 30525 USA If anyone would know ....this guy would.
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Reply To This Topic #149 Posted Apr 26, 2007, 10:44:30 am |
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OK I have come to claim the prize! My research efforts have lead me to the conclusion that this is a devise that dated as far back as the 1840s take a close look at this very early photo of Abe Lincoln, General Shermin, and General Patton this item is of extreme historical significance! It was passed down from one great leader to the next for hundreds of years. these few photos are proof that this item has a rich tradition and possibly even magical (Masonic) powers. Please brace yourself for a truly stunning historical discovery! History books shall be rewritten! BEHOLD!
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Reply To This Topic #150 Posted Apr 26, 2007, 12:01:27 pm |
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Here's my guess. I think it 's some kind of counter because I just don't see where it would adjust anything from. I think the sprocket is made for your finger to turn (see pictures). I think it did have a cover kinda like Montana Jim thought. But what did it count? Something that you would count once a day or longer because why would you need a counter that only went to 15 if you were counting them all at once?
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Reply To This Topic #151 Posted Apr 26, 2007, 12:37:28 pm |
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This reminds me of a device on an old corn planter my father had. The higher the setting the more seed that was let out of the planter.
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Reply To This Topic #152 Posted Apr 26, 2007, 01:37:24 pm |
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Hmmm, where in AK did you find it?, I like the Long Range Radar comment, mabey something from the weather station, stay tuned....
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Reply To This Topic #153 Posted Apr 26, 2007, 01:54:44 pm |
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Could it be !!!!!!?  ? A dial from a (prepay) coin meter for gas or electricity. That would explain why it's so familiar to lots of people. I remember having such a meter in the house as a kid (late 1950's) I attach a couple of pics of a coin meter with a cogged dial and also a realigned pic of the item (as per above post) which to me shows the logical alignment. You would probably only see the pointer and the adjacent number through a sight hole.
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Reply To This Topic #154 Posted Apr 26, 2007, 03:02:07 pm |
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ok here is my best guess IS a geer wheel from a 15 speed bike. Yes sears made a 5,10, 15 and 18 speed bikes. just my 2 cents in the dark  Morris Ocala,FL
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Reply To This Topic #155 Posted Apr 26, 2007, 03:15:47 pm |
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I pray today, and everyday, that this freakin' whatsit, goes away...
Or - at least send us a newbi that can ID it...
Thank you Lord.
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Reply To This Topic #156 Posted Apr 26, 2007, 07:14:09 pm |
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its an alien brain destroyer left in alaska --by an alien race long ago ---it will drive you crazy trying to figger it out--- P.S. I add one shiny silver 1964 kenndy half to the pot for the person who kills the evil beast by ID ing it. with photo or real proof like a catalog showing what the heck it is? (that way I'll be able to sleep soundly again) Ivan
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Reply To This Topic #157 Posted Apr 27, 2007, 02:31:43 am |
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I'm determined to crack this Nut (Nugget) 
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Reply To This Topic #158 Posted Apr 27, 2007, 04:56:29 am |
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Ok, I'm starting to think that maybe it is a temp. adjustment dial for an old fridge or freezer. But when you turned the sprocket with your finger, what drove or moved what ever else had to move to do the adjusting of the temp.? Most of the time when you adjust the temp on your freezer you are opening or closing a vent door. There is a shaft or rod attached to the plastic dial you turn with your hand. There are only two spots on this thing that I see where something could be driven by you moving the finger sprocket. (See picture) They are not real strong places for this to happen but are the only possable places I can see. What do you guys think of this?
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Reply To This Topic #159 Posted Apr 27, 2007, 05:48:54 am |
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That tab sticking up by the "15" must have been there for some reason...maybe it counted something, and when it made it up that high it flipped a switch for some kind of limit...dunno. I was an electrician for years, and never saw anything like it, I worked on lots of old stuff too. My first thought was an old feeler gauge for spark plugs, but it doesn't look like the tabs are different thicknesses. And there would be no reason for the stop by the 15 either.  i know that they prop did not have cows and etc fences were he found it but could it be part of a etc fence box that when you set the numbers thats how many seconds the etc would go through the line? OK its a counter 
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Reply To This Topic #160 Posted Apr 27, 2007, 09:57:52 am |
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In the future everyone will be famous for fifteen minutes. - Andy Warhol It's a Minutes-of-Fame Counter!
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Reply To This Topic #161 Posted Apr 29, 2007, 08:07:59 am |
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OK I have come to claim the prize! My research efforts have lead me to the conclusion that this is a devise that dated as far back as the 1840s take a close look at this very early photo of Abe Lincoln, General Shermin, and General Patton this item is of extreme historical significance! It was passed down from one great leader to the next for hundreds of years. these few photos are proof that this item has a rich tradition and possibly even magical (Masonic) powers. Please brace yourself for a truly stunning historical discovery! History books shall be rewritten! BEHOLD!
LMAO... Yes I think you maybe on to something.... Although you are incorrect in your assumption that this device was dated as far back as the 1840's, it dates much farther back... This device is in fact a very valuable and missing gear of this ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism
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Reply To This Topic #162 Posted Apr 30, 2007, 01:42:24 am |
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I wouldn't mind betting there's a connection to a bushel = 56 pounds of Alaskan corn at 15.5% moisture content - according to a mixture of searches I did today. 56 quartered = 14 which is all the wheel counts up to - the 15 is The Stop Your turn 
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Reply To This Topic #163 Posted Apr 30, 2007, 02:18:53 pm |
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Is there anything here on this side like a hole for another gear
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Reply To This Topic #164 Posted Apr 30, 2007, 02:58:01 pm |
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I emailed a picture to a friend of mine and this is what he says:
Appears to be part of the cold control mechanism from an early 1930’s Frigidaire refrigeration system. They had a dial with gear like settings that looked very similar to this.
Couldn't find an early 1930's Frigidaire Cold Control dial, but here's a link to an ad for one from 1929. That control doesn't seem to resemble the device we've tried to ID, and even the numbering system is different, advancing only to 6. http://www.adspast.com/store/custom...oductid=7261&cat=320&page=2
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Reply To This Topic #165 Posted Apr 30, 2007, 03:50:32 pm |
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What the hell..I'll give it a whirl. Its part of a parking meter mechanism. You can search parking meters on Ebay or in Google and see what you come up with. Also http://www.ionet.net/~luttrell/tips.html. It is a site I found while looking for this. PS, I am really not a nerd and I do not collect parking meters, just thought I would jump on the band wagon. Goose
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Reply To This Topic #166 Posted Apr 30, 2007, 04:32:38 pm |
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OK, ill take back the parking meter coponent. I am going with a weight scale gauge. 15 oz, lb, or gram limit. It is Alaska. Could be gold or fish or something...anything you need to weigh. Any takers
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Reply To This Topic #167 Posted May 01, 2007, 04:56:14 am |
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I know what it is!...............................................Bu t if I tell you I have to kill you!
Bluezman
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Reply To This Topic #168 Posted May 01, 2007, 12:57:20 pm |
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It's not part of a combination lock or cipher device, it's not complex enough. It's not a bicycle cog, 15 speed is derived from 3 front gears x 5 rear gears; also, it's not sturdy enough and it doesn't spin freely. Because the only stopping mechanism apparent is the one at 15, it seems to me like there isn't anything else holding it in place, so it wouldn't be reliable as a stand-alone counter. I'm intrigued as to why the stopper at 15 is in the middle of 15, so that the arrow never actually points at it. Also interesting is that the hooks on the back indicate how it should be hung, but if it is hung in that manner, the arrow indicating a number points at the number sideways. I can only postulate that, at the "top", there is supposed to be another device to interact with the teeth of the wheel to both turn it, and prevent it from turning any further than it's supposed to.
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Reply To This Topic #169 Posted May 01, 2007, 02:50:14 pm |
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That is an Aggie 15 day calender!!!! 
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Reply To This Topic #170 Posted May 02, 2007, 02:08:33 am |
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I can't resist sending this. Maybe it will ring a bell - somewhere! 
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Reply To This Topic #171 Posted May 02, 2007, 02:33:31 am |
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I know what it is!...............................................Bu t if I tell you I have to kill you!
Bluezman
Well then just beat me up & tell me half! 
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Reply To This Topic #172 Posted May 02, 2007, 07:39:46 am |
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I know what it is!...............................................Bu t if I tell you I have to kill you!
Bluezman
Well then just beat me up & tell me half!  Ok, rtde3 You asked for it! Get ready, here we go: Now, slap yourself in the face, then punch your self in the gut, ok, now punch yourself in the eye. Grab your right arm and twist it behind your back and use your left hand to grab yourself by the farhead while slipping your right foot behind your left ankle. Pull on your farhead so that you fall back and use a short snap punch to your solar plexus on the way down. This should leave you on the ground gasping for breath. Got your breath back? Ok, now take out your cell and call 911. Tell them you were beat up, but couldn't get a good look at the guy's face because it happened online. Hope you didn't get hurt too badly. Since I may have overdone it, and I'm feeling a little guilty, I'll tell you 90% of what I know about it. It's a Quick Change, Manual Reset, Production Counter, and it's obsolete. This counter is quick change by design; the long tabs (c) go into raised slots on a mounting plate. The bent tabs (D) go into rectangular holes on the plate. When shifted to the left the alignment is set, so the lock-down screw holes (E) line up (self aligning). Tighten down the 2 screws and your done. Quick change implies other counters (changeout parts) of a different denomination (10,11,12,13,14) and/or diameter (size product). Since it is reset manually you can see that the process that it governs takes some time, otherwise someone would have to stand over it all the time (defeating it's purpose). So, you want to know what it counts?.............................. I gave you 90%. You want egg in your beer too? Bluezman
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Reply To This Topic #173 Posted May 02, 2007, 08:33:23 am |
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speak quickly before the unruly mob comes with flaming torches!!! 
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Reply To This Topic #174 Posted May 02, 2007, 09:01:08 am |
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My Castle is Impenetrable! Bluezman
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Reply To This Topic #175 Posted May 02, 2007, 09:19:41 am |
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thats what they all say. 
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Reply To This Topic #176 Posted May 02, 2007, 09:38:08 am |
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Keep back I have hot oil!
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Reply To This Topic #177 Posted May 02, 2007, 09:44:56 am |
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will I got the chicken and beans and slaw and corn bread---bring out the hot oil and get to frying.----and while you at it you can tell me the rest of the what it story.----or stay inside and starve.
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Reply To This Topic #178 Posted May 02, 2007, 10:54:19 am |
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Ok , but you're buying the beer!
These things are pretty generic. The last one I saw was much larger and substantially made; about 25 lbs. It was set up on an automatic fed drill and tap press to count off 6 parts and stop. The operator was required to check every sixth part.
This big momma counted 1/2" thick 4" diameter steel rings, that were threaded both on the inside and out, and needed to have two holes drilled and tapped into one face, and two blind holes drilled 90* opposite (spanner holes) on the other face. What were the parts you say?
They were called fusewell retainer rings! Think late '60s think Viet Nam, think carpet bombing. Think 750 pounders. Think that's enough for today.
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Reply To This Topic #179 Posted May 02, 2007, 03:46:43 pm |
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It's a Quick Change, Manual Reset, Production Counter, and it's obsolete. Hi Bluezman, I can't argue with that!!  I reckon this baby has been put to rest. Unless there are any objections, that bottle of fine New Zealand wine should be winging your way very soon. You will need to PM me with details and preference - red or white? Cheers, Mike
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Reply To This Topic #180 Posted May 02, 2007, 04:04:55 pm |
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It's a Quick Change, Manual Reset, Production Counter, and it's obsolete. Hi Bluezman, I can't argue with that!!  I reckon this baby has been put to rest. Unless there are any objections, that bottle of fine New Zealand wine should be winging your way very soon. You will need to PM me with details and preference - red or white? Cheers, Mike I'm not convinced. At all...
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Reply To This Topic #181 Posted May 02, 2007, 04:20:21 pm |
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They were called fusewell retainer rings! Think late '60s think Viet Nam, think carpet bombing. Think 750 pounders. Think that's enough for today.
Montana! I'm not convinced either. But was glad that, that was all for today.
Tony
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Reply To This Topic #182 Posted May 02, 2007, 04:42:41 pm |
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It's a Quick Change, Manual Reset, Production Counter, and it's obsolete. Hi Bluezman, I can't argue with that!!  I reckon this baby has been put to rest. Unless there are any objections, that bottle of fine New Zealand wine should be winging your way very soon. You will need to PM me with details and preference - red or white? Cheers, Mike Yea... I have to admit ..not totally convinced either. But... the explanation of the device by Bluezman I have to also admit It is one of the most convincing explanation of what a device "of this design" is used for. Bluezmans device may have looked similar, did essentially the same task, but his device was much , much, larger..and ultimately not "this" device. But the ultimate question is what was this particular device used for?
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Reply To This Topic #183 Posted May 02, 2007, 04:45:18 pm |
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so it counted the "fusewell rings" huh ?----rings that held the "fuse" the part that makes the bomb go boom when it hits something---- the rings had inside and outside threading--- outside threading held ring to the bomb & inside threads to screw the the "fuse" into the body of ring they were used in 750 lb bombs---that were used in carpet bombing in nam- but that one was bigger *******so think smaller--say its a "fusewell ring counter" say for a smaller say a 200 lb / 250 lb bomb--- been around the military alot over the years---seen lots of odd stuff over the years seems --either aboard a merchant ship or at a military base I seem to remember having seen this cursed "thing" at one time or another---come on air force armement guys wasn't 15 --200 / 250 lbers a load? (3000 lbs or 3750 if 250 lbers were used) 3 pods with 5 bombs --left wing / center / right wing of aircraft for close air support or anti tank or bombing runways of the enemy with a mix of bomblets (cbu's) say for a aircraft like an A6 Intruder or a A10 Warthog --my ship did carry ammo during the gulf war in 1991 could be something ammo related---can I have some new zealand wine too?  Ivan
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Reply To This Topic #184 Posted May 02, 2007, 05:57:05 pm |
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The mechanism here is much too small to make a retaining ring for even a 500 pounder.
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Reply To This Topic #185 Posted May 02, 2007, 06:23:48 pm |
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know they have differant kinda dets time,impact and such but we had unarmed bombs without (det) on them for safety---I worked on the cape ann---we up loaded at earle N.J.---we hauled ammo for the aircraft carrier America (part of task force 155) in 1991 gulf war--- the American (shes a fish haven now) ---gulb,glub---I was just thinking "small" bombs I've heard og heard of 500 lb GP bombs and was wondering if there was say a 200 or 250 lbers--we carried a bunch differant types of bombs a good bit was cbu's but we never poked around with the ammo or opened the "coffins"---that was done on the aircraft carrier after they were flown from us to the carriers by helos and landing nets (unrep)---they got "armed" on the carrier just before being put on the planes. Ivan
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Reply To This Topic #186 Posted May 02, 2007, 06:51:19 pm |
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UPDATE: I just removed what ended up being a rant... wrongly posted after terribly misreading another post.
Thanks Charlie...
I'm sorry Bluezman...
I appreciate you guys setting me straight!
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Reply To This Topic #187 Posted May 02, 2007, 06:55:48 pm |
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I think you all misunderstood him. He did not say the artifact was a fuse retainer or any part of a bomb. He said it was on a machine that formed the parts and alerted the operator that he had to do a "1-in-15" quality check when it tripped.
Don't know if that is the case, either. Looks kind of light construction to be part of a milling or machining operation.
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Reply To This Topic #188 Posted May 02, 2007, 06:57:41 pm |
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I just made the 750s. Actually I made the baseplugs and attachment rings, and reworked the retaining rings, when the operator screwed up.
I think you should wait till some one finds out what kind of machine this mini counter came from before you send out that wine. I can explain what it is and how it works, but have no idea what it came off of. Bluezman PS Jim I never said it was a bomb part. re read my reply please
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Reply To This Topic #189 Posted May 02, 2007, 07:12:54 pm |
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Oopps... see my last post.
And... after seeing the drawing of the thing counting... I guess I can lean towards the generic anwer that bluezman offers.
Prolly as close as we will get... Ivan is prolly right.
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Reply To This Topic #190 Posted May 02, 2007, 07:14:08 pm |
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partial answer seems to me ----quailty assurance check counter on a milling /drilling machine of some sort that seems to me what bluesman is saying -----which machine and what it made who knows? most likely going to need a mill wright to ID this one. (folks who make tools that make tools).rare job that one big $$$ too.
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Reply To This Topic #191 Posted May 02, 2007, 07:16:19 pm |
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I am a millwright....was a millwright...retired now
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Reply To This Topic #192 Posted May 02, 2007, 07:18:18 pm |
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I am a millwright
Well done.
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Reply To This Topic #193 Posted May 02, 2007, 07:24:53 pm |
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bluesman thought you might be one --the way you said what you did---I was baiting you a bit ---scarce as hens teeth mill wrights are--- I think you got it right --- but I think their wanting to know what it counted to 15 ---as in 15 whats? before checking your tolerances to make sure their within specs. or whatever and why in gods name would it be out in alaska for ? Ivan
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Reply To This Topic #194 Posted May 02, 2007, 07:31:46 pm |
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like I said we going to need a mill wright  ---and its a partial answer ---quality assurance check counter---went to 15 ---15 whats who knows? so its a ---15 count quality assurance check counter for a milling /drilling machine to check out >---the item being checked is an unknown item. however I do think its close enough. lets kill this beast!!! get the spears!!!
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Reply To This Topic #195 Posted May 02, 2007, 07:41:12 pm |
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I've removed my last reply to replace it with this.
starting over:
Nope, never seen anything like that before in my life! Good luck Bluezman
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Reply To This Topic #196 Posted May 02, 2007, 07:45:48 pm |
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but since bluezman has in my veiw ID what this base and vile beast is (a quality assurance check stop) and what it was used for (quality assurance). although which exact machine and what it quality is assured is beyond the even the powers of even a mighty mill wright. I feel it is time for us to gather and get the spears and slay this awful beast (call it ID'ed)---what say ye?  Ivan
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Reply To This Topic #197 Posted May 02, 2007, 07:51:45 pm |
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its too late we know now its secert name---its weakness is reveled---get it while its weak--- I implore you all. get the great white whale  ... opps ..I mean the the quality assurance check counter!!! Ivan
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Reply To This Topic #198 Posted May 03, 2007, 12:28:43 am |
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No ... no New Zealand wine for you....But if you 'd like to buy me a beer ...I drink Corona.
Bluezman
Kia Ora Bluezman, as far as I'm concerned, you have identified a completely plausible use for it. The best yet. I want to award you with a bottle of wine - or more of Corona. You'll still need to let me know your preference - with Lemons or Limes? and Ivan - if you can tell us 'exactly what it counted' - There could be a bottle flying your way too. in a nice sort of way - of course Cheers, Mike
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Reply To This Topic #199 Posted May 03, 2007, 01:36:37 am |
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I offered a 90% 64 half to bluezmans but he wouldn;t take it---I agree thats about as far as you'lll get as far as an ID--- but how in gods name did it wind up in a farm feild in alaska? wonder if it was used on a automated lathe or drill press at one of the old radar stations (military outpost) back in those days they used to made parts for stuff (machinist was a rating in the military)---you "made" things.---maybe some farmer went scrapping at an old radar station and it got chucked unto hes sled- when he was coming home it fell off. about the only way I can think of it getting there-- that or a old canning plant maybe----15 oz canned salmon cans---- 15oz could be ---15 min in time 4 X an hour or 15 passes / or units made---my head hurts from this bugger. Ivan
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