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Posted Feb 18, 2007, 04:20:14 pm

The weather was cooperating... I got out for the first time this year!  After a long drive I had about five hours to detect.  I grabbed a spare set of batteries and started walking to a favorite area that always produced because after my winter wait I didn't want to get skunked! 

I'll spare you the blow-by-blow...  but my first find was an unmarked eagle button!  I found two eagle buttons total today, a pile of nails and some scrap iron (not shown except ladle handle).  A bunch of tin lids, a pocketfull of 45-70 bullets and a few casings.  Finally, a little button hinge thingy and a "German Silver" suspender buckle.     

All items from Indian War area U.S. soldiers circa mid 1860s through late 1890s.  All said, I had a great day! Grin

Enjoy the pictures, thanks for looking.

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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Feb 18, 2007, 04:26:00 pm

Excellent finds, really awesome Montana finds!!! 

Im going out south of Missoula in a few months and getting hunting spots lined up.


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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Feb 18, 2007, 04:27:45 pm

Jim, Great Finds, Congrats, Love To See Your IW Relics. trk5capt...
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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Feb 18, 2007, 04:28:31 pm

Good for you! Great finds!
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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Feb 18, 2007, 04:40:17 pm

Excellent finds.
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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Feb 18, 2007, 05:02:00 pm

Nice finds, very nice!!! Glad you were able to get out

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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Feb 18, 2007, 05:02:44 pm

Nice buttons and bullets!  You had a great day.

Thanks for the excellent photos as well.



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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Feb 18, 2007, 05:47:13 pm

Nice spread Jim!!!....that has to be an awesome place to hunt,WTG.....
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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Feb 18, 2007, 05:53:30 pm





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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Feb 18, 2007, 05:58:06 pm

Nice digs, Jim!  I think the "button hinge thingy" may be part of an old reel-type tape measure:

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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Feb 18, 2007, 05:59:06 pm

MJ,

outstanding group of artifacts; thanks
for posting; sounds and looks like you had
a successful hunt and a good time.

have a good un.............................

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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Feb 18, 2007, 06:04:15 pm

Excellent finds, really awesome Montana finds!!! 

Im going out south of Missoula in a few months and getting hunting spots lined up.

lionhrt9... thats a great area, tons of early montana history there, hope you get some great spots to detect!  Good luck!


Nice digs, Jim!  I think the "button hinge thingy" may be part of an old reel-type tape measure:

PBK... I think you may be correct, it certainly could be exactly that!

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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Feb 18, 2007, 06:56:56 pm

Jim,

Remarkable finds, you did great and had a great day to boot.  Love those buttons and the photos.   Grin

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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Feb 18, 2007, 08:18:16 pm

Those are some odd looking bullets.  What are they ?  Was that a repeating rifle or something ? 

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Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Feb 18, 2007, 09:11:13 pm

YIKES!  That's a lotta great stuff.  Congrats MJ.  Those buttons are really cool.  And the lead, well you gotta wonder who was hit with some of that stuff.   Hope you give your wife a big hug (or whatever) for being so cooperative.  LOL   What a great haul. 
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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Feb 18, 2007, 10:21:02 pm

Those are some odd looking bullets.  What are they ?  Was that a repeating rifle or something ? 

Quoting the below sources to help articulate a response...   They were probebly from a model 1873 Springfield .45-70 carbine. The accuracy and range of this weapon made it more effective in many ways for warfare on the Plains. The .45-70 rifle cartridge was developed at the U.S. Army's Springfield Armory for use in the Springfield Model 1873 .45 caliber rifle, known to collectors (but never to the Army) as the "Trapdoor Springfield." The new cartridge was a replacement for the stop-gap .50-70 cartridge which had been adopted in 1866, one year after the end of the American Civil War.

Source: http://www.texasbeyondhistory.net/redriver/weapons.html & wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45-70

Those rounds I show are all .45-70, and sometimes I get a few .50-70 rounds.  Of course I've dug all manner of musketballs too.  Hope that helped.

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Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Feb 19, 2007, 02:56:37 am

Nice finds MM, thanks for sharing them! HH, Mike
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Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Feb 19, 2007, 04:09:02 am

Nice finds, WTG!!!
Glad you were finally able to get out, and have a good time doing so....
Good luck, & Happy hunting~

P.S.> Did ya put that quote below your avatar, before?, or after reading Monty's post?  Grin

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Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Feb 19, 2007, 04:55:11 am

Man, some guys know how to start their year out right!  ;) Way to go Jim.
I love those buttons you found. Congrats.
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Reply To This Topic #19 Posted Feb 19, 2007, 05:00:49 am

I think that thing ya got is the cover to a chalk filled plumb line for layin straight lines.  Fellars got it all rong with them pictures. 

That's interesting, TNG— and welcome to the forum!  Can you post some photos showing the item as you've identified it?  Most of the older chalk-lines or snap-lines that I've seen look something like this:
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Reply To This Topic #20 Posted Feb 19, 2007, 05:17:39 am

With what the first hunt of your year produced you should be smiling at least until spring Jim.   Grin

Love those buttons and bullets!  Just looking at them on this forum makes me smile. 

Thanks for sharing.

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Reply To This Topic #21 Posted Feb 19, 2007, 05:37:04 am

Nice button!
Any idea on the tin can lids?
We've found a few that are old "3 Merry Widows" condom tins!

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Reply To This Topic #22 Posted Feb 19, 2007, 06:21:50 am

nice finds Jim, HH thompy

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Reply To This Topic #23 Posted Feb 19, 2007, 07:11:44 am

Wow, too cool!  Great finds!
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Reply To This Topic #24 Posted Feb 19, 2007, 07:20:52 am

Very impressive finds, and good pics too
Way to go
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Reply To This Topic #25 Posted Feb 19, 2007, 07:37:07 am

Nice old buttons.
In the future they will think that we all used velcro for our clothing as most modern buttons aren't metal!

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Reply To This Topic #26 Posted Feb 19, 2007, 08:06:05 am

Great finds!!!

Is it a Scovill Button? 

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Reply To This Topic #27 Posted Feb 19, 2007, 08:56:28 am

Thanks for looking all… I’m glad you enjoyed the pictures…

And the lead, well you gotta wonder who was hit with some of that stuff.   

TT - I can virtually guarantee that all these rounds were fired for food or practice, or dropped.  But I know them things woulda done some damage! 

P.S.> Did ya put that quote below your avatar, before?, or after reading Monty's post?  Grin

Yup… decided that even though I give advice I didn’t want to get blamed if it was bad, so that’s my disclosure statement!

Any idea on the tin can lids?

One is a Ponds (cold cream) lid… the others are unknowns, and unmarked.  There is a post military history in the area and those lids/containers might be as recent as 1910s.

Is it a Scovill Button? 

Button #1 is unmarked.
Button #2 is back marked  SCOVILL MFG CO. WATERBURY (dating this button 1850 - 1865)


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Reply To This Topic #28 Posted Feb 19, 2007, 09:57:04 am

I think that thing ya got is the cover to a chalk filled plumb line for layin straight lines.  

That's interesting, TNG— and welcome to the forum!  Can you post some photos showing the item as you've identified it?  Most of the older chalk-lines or snap-lines that I've seen look something like this:
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Thanks again for the pics PBK!

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Reply To This Topic #29 Posted Feb 19, 2007, 12:16:34 pm

Very nice! Cheesy

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Reply To This Topic #30 Posted Feb 19, 2007, 02:15:27 pm

Congratulations on some very nice finds..

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Reply To This Topic #31 Posted Feb 19, 2007, 02:55:46 pm

What a great way to get the year started.  congratulations...Thanks for sharing.

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Reply To This Topic #32 Posted Feb 19, 2007, 04:54:56 pm

I love seeing relics from the "forgotten wars". Great finds!

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Reply To This Topic #33 Posted Feb 21, 2007, 04:08:36 pm

WOW finds like those and I would have to put my detector back in the closet till next spring. Grin Grin
Congrats. and HH
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Reply To This Topic #34 Posted Mar 10, 2007, 06:00:08 pm

Montana Jim.....I found that same button last year but never bothered to ID it. Thanks for the info! Cool find!
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Reply To This Topic #35 Posted Mar 10, 2007, 06:14:46 pm

Totally awesome job!! Those are great relics proof positive of your hard and determined work!WTG!!!
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Reply To This Topic #36 Posted Mar 11, 2007, 03:48:52 am

wow nice buttons...congrats on a good day out.

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Reply To This Topic #37 Posted Jan 19, 2008, 07:45:41 am

I'm new to this hobby. I got my metal detector from my son and daughter in law for Christmas. It's about 10 below zero here in Minnesota and more snow than I want. So I won't be able to use it soon here. I'm originally from Missoula,(born and raised), but moved to Minnesota temporarily 40+ years ago. I miss the mountains and Missoula in general.
By the way, great finds, I'd be curious where you were. I have Family still in the Frenchtown area and around Bonner. I'd love to "poke" around those parts sometime.
Several years ago, my mother, now deceased, took me up in the hills by Huson and showed me an old decapitated homesight she said her Grandparents had homesteaded years ago. I doubt anyone has ever hunted in that area. I'd settle for some nails or anything from there.

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Reply To This Topic #38 Posted Jan 19, 2008, 08:07:30 am

Jim,,excellent finds..boy thats one of my dreams to find a musket ball or civil war bullet...but I am not in the rite area for the civil war bullets.. ya got yourself some neat finds for sure  there.. lucky dog  you

off and hunting again today for a short bit.

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Reply To This Topic #39 Posted Jan 19, 2008, 08:16:52 am

Fantastic hunt Jim! Good stuff!!

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Reply To This Topic #40 Posted Jan 19, 2008, 08:33:50 am

Holy Cow!!!  Shocked You did great.  Grin

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Reply To This Topic #41 Posted Jan 19, 2008, 02:57:46 pm

Congrats, nice haul on the relics.
Nope, It doesn't make the list!

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Reply To This Topic #42 Posted Jan 20, 2008, 05:12:51 am

Really outstanding finds Jim! Congrats!
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Reply To This Topic #43 Posted Jan 20, 2008, 05:35:32 am

A BIG  congrats on what i call a good day.Looks like some good gilt on that eagle,also some good pics.

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Reply To This Topic #44 Posted Jan 20, 2008, 07:03:58 am

Wow !!  Nice variety of finds once again.Keep poundin' that spot .It reminds me a lot of the spot I work all the time.I;ve been hunting it for 4 years now and it still produces. HH..Panz
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Reply To This Topic #45 Posted Jan 20, 2008, 07:36:22 am

Awesome finds! I see that you pulled out some squashed Vienna Sausage cans too! I hate those things!  Angry They make your heart palpitate! Good luck with your future finds!

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Reply To This Topic #46 Posted Jan 20, 2008, 08:05:11 am

Fantastic historical finds you have there..... That should give anybody a great day. Great photo's also.

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Reply To This Topic #47 Posted Jan 20, 2008, 11:46:16 am

Nice stuff there.  Those Eagles are fun to dig and that old lead and nails are awesome too.  Great going.

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Reply To This Topic #48 Posted Jan 20, 2008, 01:08:42 pm

Old post brought back to life.......February 2007.  Roll Eyes


But, Jim, thems are sum buttkickin' finds.  Smiley
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Reply To This Topic #49 Posted Jan 20, 2008, 03:50:48 pm

Hey Jim,
Did you fix one of those awesome breakfast's before you left?
That's some good looking "stuff" lol
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Reply To This Topic #50 Posted Jan 21, 2008, 08:39:52 am

Thanks everyone again!  I was a little suprised to see this old post revived!   But... thats cool too!

I'm new to this hobby. I got my metal detector from my son and daughter in law for Christmas. It's about 10 below zero here in Minnesota and more snow than I want. So I won't be able to use it soon here. I'm originally from Missoula,(born and raised), but moved to Minnesota temporarily 40+ years ago. I miss the mountains and Missoula in general.
By the way, great finds, I'd be curious where you were. I have Family still in the Frenchtown area and around Bonner. I'd love to "poke" around those parts sometime.
Several years ago, my mother, now deceased, took me up in the hills by Huson and showed me an old decapitated homesight she said her Grandparents had homesteaded years ago. I doubt anyone has ever hunted in that area. I'd settle for some nails or anything from there.

The dman4

Thanks for the response, I'm glad my finds got ya ready to do some diggin!  I hope you enjoy the hobby as much as I have for the last 30 years.  I've only lived in Montana for 12 years or so... and love diggin the nails too.  I think it would be cool to check out that old homestead if you can and have a blast doign it!  Dig everything!

Good luck, happy hunting, and welcome to TreasureNet!

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Reply To This Topic #51 Posted Jan 21, 2008, 04:40:50 pm

Man, that looks like a great day of hunting and some nice lead.  Top it off with TWO Eagles and you are ridin' high!!!

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I guess a whole bunch of new folks get to see the finds, and thats cool too. 

I never post finds anymore so now people can see how my bounty hunter works!  LOL

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Reply To This Topic #55 Posted Sep 17, 2008, 05:38:28 pm

Nice haul Jim!! Glad your back to digging some cool relics!
Jerry
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Reply To This Topic #56 Posted Sep 23, 2008, 02:19:21 pm

Nice finds on the buttons thumbsup

Enjoying the "Good Life" in SoCal
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Reply To This Topic #57 Posted Sep 23, 2008, 04:13:27 pm

Sounds like a great day to me! 2 buttons in one day! Thats amazing! Smiley

Anyone can make life interesting you just have to go out there and do things instead of sitting on your butt doing nothing. Second quote: Life is about trying new things not just standing around.
The Lord Has Risen

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Cherokee Strip Evelyn Stone

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Reply To This Topic #58 Posted Sep 23, 2008, 04:21:59 pm

Those are some really great finds Jim, and really glad you got to go hunt!

This is the day the Lord hath made we shall rejoice and be glad in it!
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Detector used Detector(s) Used - Fisher 1266x and White's MXT 300

Reply To This Topic #59 Posted Sep 23, 2008, 04:39:40 pm

Nice finds Jim.

"Whiskey - I like it, I always did, and that is the reason I never use it".   Robert E. Lee
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Montana
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Reply To This Topic #60 Posted Sep 23, 2008, 06:15:09 pm

Those are some really great finds Jim, and really glad you got to go hunt!

I liked the hunt!  Back in Feb 07 when it happened!  Smiley 

Thanks folks... Smiley   thumbsup

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Reply To This Topic #61 Posted Sep 23, 2008, 06:21:22 pm

I liked the hunt!  Back in Feb 07 when it happened!  Smiley 
Thanks folks... Smiley   thumbsup

If we could not Reminisce we would not be alive ...

Righteous stuff Jim...

What life is all about ...

~ Nick ~

Nick...

When nobody else is awake...
When nobody else is looking...
I open a beer...
And sneak back into the old posts and look at my finds...

I do enjoy the memories. 

I don't mind sharing them again.  Smiley

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