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Posted Feb 20, 2007, 05:51:17 pm

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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Feb 27, 2007, 12:38:02 pm

Man, would like to stumble across some coins from that wreck!  I wonder if any ever make it shore?

Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Feb 28, 2007, 03:14:27 pm

What does "40 chests of Specie " mean ?
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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Feb 28, 2007, 03:20:07 pm

Specie - coins or coinage

Not all who wander are lost - Some of us are simply confused. (Apologies to J.R.R. Tolkein's memory)
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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Apr 13, 2007, 10:50:02 am

The stories of this ship have always been interesting. Supposedly it sunk in the area of Bartlets Reef which is outside the Thames River off New London. This reef supposely has tall sea weed on it anmd rocks. As far as I ever heard it has never been located. As for the $500, 000 treasure aboard, it has never been determined if a fact or rumor. 

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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Dec 02, 2009, 04:46:52 pm

Has any coins been found?  Where is the location of this ship now?
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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Dec 03, 2009, 06:14:12 am

Has any coins been found?  Where is the location of this ship now?

There had been searches for this wreck, I remember reading of them back in the 1960s, but it seems no one ever found it. Never heard of any coins or cannons from it either. They say it is on Bartlets Reef which is mainly rocks and sea grass. I believe it has fast currents also. Should be easy to find with a magnetometer, if it really exists.

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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Dec 03, 2009, 11:08:53 am

Great information from #6.
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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Dec 04, 2009, 08:12:06 pm

Has anybody had found coins from this ship?
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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Dec 05, 2009, 04:57:35 am

Has anybody had found coins from this ship?

Very unlikely. But if someone had found the remains of this ship, they probably wouldn't let anyone know  anyway. The State of Ct. would likely intervene and run the finder off the site, and claim it as state property as it is in state waters.

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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Dec 06, 2009, 08:01:33 pm

I would look anyway, and hope for the best.  Merry Christmas to all.  i live in Connecticut.
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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Jan 23, 2010, 02:43:36 pm

I am wondering if anybody found any coins.  I believe the story is true.

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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Feb 21, 2010, 04:17:29 pm

There must be a million lead sinkers on bartlett reef. The wreck of the Defense is said to be there as well. 1779

You are likely right on the sinkers. The Defence is what I am talking about, not some frigate. I don't believe there were 2 different supposedly treasure ships sunk on this site, I don't know where the San Jose name and 1752 date came from. I also read of a Spanish ship which supposedly sunk in New Haven harbor in the 1700's. It was seeking shelter from a storm, but sunk anyway, supposedly near the large sand bar off West haven. A cannon was found around WW2 era off the sand bar area by someone who was claming. I have been told it was found in 2 different areas though. Probably looking in old newspaper files or microfilm in libraries from the area, would give the truth about where the cannon was found.

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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Mar 04, 2010, 08:57:54 pm

Many great comments.  Best of luck to all of you who are searching for this treasures.
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Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Mar 15, 2010, 06:24:11 pm

What is the latest news?
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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Mar 16, 2010, 04:55:37 am

There won't be any news in the Winter time or Spring either. I doubt anything new will come from this area. It has been known for ages and nothing has ever been found. It is a rough area to search and as I said before, the State would likely take it over and you would get nothing. 

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Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Mar 17, 2010, 09:43:21 am

It is getting warm in Connecticut.
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Reply To This Topic #17 Posted May 24, 2010, 06:42:28 pm

It is now May, Has any coins been found yet?
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Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Aug 24, 2010, 11:29:31 am

Did anybody find any coins?
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Reply To This Topic #19 Posted Aug 24, 2010, 12:45:38 pm

If you don't hear anything about it in the news on TV or newspapers, then it means no one has found anything. At least anyone would know better than to say they did, or the state would step in and claim it.

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Reply To This Topic #20 Posted Sep 13, 2010, 02:58:00 pm

What is the latest news?
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Reply To This Topic #21 Posted May 29, 2011, 03:09:49 pm

Sorry about the lateness of this post. I don't think I joined TNet until long after it was started.

Have several citations for sources of this lead if anyone is interested:

Guide to Sunken Ships in American Waters, p. 18
Penfield's Directory to Buried and Sunken Treasure, p. 49
Lost Treasure, August, 1978, p. 45
Gold, Summer, 1977, p. 51
Terry's Treasure Map Atlas, p. 47
Treasure, August 1981, p. 20

I also have listed a Spanish Galleon wrecked in 1753 (a year later than the San Jose) which might, in fact be the same shipwreck reference:

Lost, Buried or Sunken Treasures, p. 184
Penfield's Directory to Buried and Sunken Treasure, p. 49
Lost Treasure, August, 1978, p. 45
Terry's Treasure Map Atlas, p. 47
Lost Treasure, March, 1979, p. 23
Guide to Lost Treasures, p. 42

Part of what makes searching for data difficult is the sheer numbers of treasures reported anywhere. Blackbeard is said to have a treasure cache in New Haven also, reported in Lost Treasure, March, 1979, page 23. This seems almost counterindicated. Captain Kidd is the pirate most frequently associated with caches in CT: at Charles Is., Connanicut Is., Goose Is., Lyme, Middletown, Milford, Money Is., Pilot Is., Stratford Point, Thimble Isles, Weathersfield, and very likely other places in CT as I didn't start adding locations until after I had far too many citations for individual caches to be likely.

Coins have been found at Pilot Island, according to an article in Lost Treasure from April, 1976, p. 54. Supposedly a pirate cache was located on Penfield Reef, cited in Lost Treasure, March, 1979, p. 23. A gold coin cache was also found in CT at Salisbury, reported in Lost Buried and Sunken Treasure, p. 180; as well as Treasure, January 1979, p. 42.

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