2008 EXPEDITION: YAMASH-I-T-A ( Japanese) TREASURE

Greetings to all THers,



We had uncovered this piece of metal along with 3tons of nickel babbit.  This metal waits 92kg with a marking of pt800, ss 667.  Assay result says it contains 26% platinum.  Any ideas on how much this metal cost?

 

We had uncovered this piece of metal along with 3tons of nickel babbit.  This metal waits 92kg with a marking of pt800, ss 667.  Assay result says it contains 26% platinum.  Any ideas on how much this metal cost?

Please provide a sharp, clear picture of the item in question.

Okay sir wia!!!!!!!!!!! for this relic, heres the pic 1 of the tons of NICKEL BABBIT........Marking US melting company

For all treasure hunters:

Based on the pictures and markers I posted, If you happens to be the owner of this land? Are you going to continue digging? Are you going to dig more even if you just have some stupid markers and a hired Filipino wanna be Treasure hunter with a metal detector to back you up?

I need advice. What are we going to do on this kind of find? I need advice for a professional treasure hunters.


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Hire my group. 3 man team t-hx.........we are cheap but 90% accurate.....

I typed 'nickel babbit' and 'nickel babbitt' into google and found these among others...

http://www.tradeholding.net/default...ion/viewcompanies/companyid/180298/

http://buy.ecplaza.net/search/1s1nf20sell/nickel_babbit.html

Notice the quantities listed....in the billions.
It's amazing why the Americans shipped tons and tons and tons of babbitt to the Philippines.  



Jay

SICARII,

First thing first. Before you dispose or sell your pt to interested buyer, I suggest to deal first with your nickle babbit. It is more   easier to dispose that item. But prior to that , you have to identify what kind of babbit you have, since babbit bars are categorized and priced base in its babbit contents. As far as I know, there are 3 types of babbits.
From the proceed of your babbit, you will have ample time to think, and negotiate with your PT(that will serve as your mobilization fund); of course with the corresponding documents (assay report from whatever company who deals with assaying of metals), physical dimensions and weight, and piece of sample taken from your stock. With all of these tangible informations, I assure you, there will be interested buyers to entertain you.
BTW, selling of your babbit will have the same procedure as selling your PT,  but much easier since the amount is less compared to AU and PT. Probably, buyers will ask for random sampling, since your objects are in tons...

Angel_09

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/v_P_N82Ft1I" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/v_P_N82Ft1I</a>

MABUHAY ... KAMUSTA KAYOUNG LAHAT (Hello, How are you all doing ?)

The landmark is the fork in the river. Theres a pointing turtle and 2 heartstones in the river, can you see the eye and the cache guardian ...the "6" etched on a mid river rock that coincidentally is part of a circular formation ... can you read the signs ?

I fully endorse the use of the Ignore User function on the left ...   .

Good evening my Friend SWR, I am with you, I have never heard of a platinum base babbitt, but then there are many things that I have never heard or know of.   Go to -->

http://www.alchemycastings.com/lead-products/babbitt.htm

Interesting reading.

Don Jose de La Mancha

Hello Don Jose,

How's everything goin' on?

angel_09

HOLA MI AMIGO:  Everything still normal, and you?

Don Jose de La Mancha

Hi guys,

nice reading your posts, been awhile since i last visited. Went  out last week with my gear after more than a year working in the office. Found nothing(as always) but had to practice operating the GPR, also had my tf 2box but not in pics. the big hole was loose soil that altered the gpr signal and showed up in the screen. then i go down with the minelab to look for signals that would indicate metal, sop with my team.

HH

jose

Buenas Dias Don Jose,

Same as always, living a normal life; enjoying God's given blessings every minute, and giving back it to him the way he wanted it.

Cheers,

Angel_09

; of course with the corresponding documents (assay report from whatever company who deals with assaying of metals), physical dimensions and weight, and piece of sample taken from your stock. With all of these tangible informations, I assure you, there will be interested buyers to entertain you.
BTW, selling of your babbit will have the same procedure as selling your PT,  but much easier since the amount is less compared to AU and PT. Probably, buyers will ask for random sampling, since your objects are in tons...

Angel_09

Angel,

I still dont have the assay result on the nuckel babbit, thanks for the advice your really an angel.......

Hi gboy, angel, realde and all.

im getting rusty but have to go out again this week, what would the weight in kilos a gold bar the size of a chocolate( hershys), not the big one be? Realde mi amigo, you couched me long time ago with the 2 box, im good with it in sandy loam soil, im wondering how it will handle in rock lime, should it get better depth?z(soil in photo) hope you guys could help.

God bless,

Jose

Buenas tardes Jose:  A Gold bar of that size would prob. run arond one (1) kilo.  pure gold runs about  .70 # per cu inch.

Don Jose de La Mancha

Thank you Don Jose.


A old man told me he found some but reburied it then a flash flood came and he lost his markers, tall tale, but i also love chasing windmills. BTW how would my tf900 fare in sandy rock lime soil?

God bless,

Jose

Greetings,

How is evrybody doing here? Where is gboy and zobex?

Greetings everyone,


A group of treasure hunter found this stone in one of thier digging site.  They told me its inside a box.  Suppose to be they are hunting an au base on thier living witness but instead they had uncover this stone.  It looks like a big opal to me but I need the opinions of experience hunters in tnet.

hi,

stone looks pretty, surely handmade, if inside a box, then it must have value. Sometimes syndicates make up stories to entice people to finance their operations. So use your good judgement.

God bless

jose

hi,

stone looks pretty, surely handmade, if inside a box, then it must have value. Sometimes syndicates make up stories to entice people to finance their operations. So use your good judgement.

God bless

jose

I agree with you don jose, thats why Im asking the hunters opinion here, I doubt also about it and want to know if this really valuable.

Ola  Don Jose De la mancha,

I need your opinion on my tf 900 reading, north to south a steady meter reading at 60(with a very nice meter hang), south to north meter breaking between 30-40, readings consistent over spot, no consistent readings when i cross east to west. metal probe not hitting solid object at 3 ft of north south reading(deeper target?). Mineralization or should i it give a go? I remember you refered  me to a person in the states also good with the tf, that was years ago. Hope you can share your wisdom.

God bless,

jose

Nice waterfall !

Looks like a great vacation spot !

Good luck 

keep looking ...marcos got a big one in Uddiawan Falls,Nueva Vizcaya.

Hola Tagasilay mi amigo:  I am sorry for the delay in answering your question.  You posted -->

'Ola  Don Jose De la mancha,

I need your opinion on my tf 900 reading, north to south a steady meter reading at 60(with a very nice meter hang), south to north meter breaking between 30-40, readings consistent over spot, no consistent readings when i cross east to west. metal probe not hitting solid object at 3 ft of north south reading(deeper target?). Mineralization or should i it give a go? I remember you refered  me to a person in the states also good with the tf, that was years ago. Hope you can share your wisdom.'
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I would suggest that you are reading an alongated bit of responive  materiel, possibly a pipe, rifle

Don Jose de La Mancha

The stone pictures looks natural and thier is no incdication that is related to Yam@--deleted--@ treasures.

[Whats Going On In Divisoria, Cagayan de Oro City]

***Whats Going On In Divisoria, Cagayan de Oro City***

Two Months ago the powers that be decided to upgrade the water system in and around Divisoria, in the centre of Cagayan De Oro City. They disrupted traffic and caused a lot of congestion in the streets around Friendship Park.

This was a distraction for what was really happening at the Auditorium

(Friendship Park, Divisoria was a IJA treasure site recovered in the 1970's by Ferdinand Marcos). Below are some photos of the operation being carried out behind plastic sheeting at the auditorium.

 (Note the JICA donated lights that serve as beacons for the souls of their own soldiers that they murdered to protect the treasure)

 

 

tnks sa opinion.. k i just remove my post.

tnks sa opinion.. k i just remove my post.

bisaya There was no reason for you to remove your post 

you are Very welcome To post here !

Jeff

 

anyone knows what the meaning of this sign, engraved on top of a "stone, 2feet height,diameter 1.5 feet"..

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/-YBGnhrJbDw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/-YBGnhrJbDw</a>



tanks..

hello everybody,  i been awwy for a while, and i missed all you guys i believe it's about 2 yr. now  i been busy those days digging,and  diving,fishing ,and exploring around  p.i. have lots of fun , experience, of good thing and bad, and satisfy,and prove to myself that all the thing were talking about treasure was really exist , and thanks to all the info. here you guys are good,i mean realy  really good thanks  Edong

  what happen to thunting.com??  i just posted there yesterday..

I'm from philippines and im newbie to this.... my friend bring me to the area where they dig for treasure. A history made there when the japanesse invades our land, it is said that they buried the gold bars during the war, there in that area and we found the signs but im not so sure about our detector. Could you help me in everything what we need in order to accomplish what we begin.   

After sometime of internet inactivity, I felt like a newbie again ... need to be updated.
what's hot? where are the boys? balato kayo.

Well Kaloy,

In may opinion, the journey for this EXPEDITION has come to an end. So much has been learned from EXPERTS and alike, from actual diggings, unusual unearthed objects, stories heard from one mouth that came from another mouth which was read and excerpted from the "will" of the of the gold holder.
This thread helps a lot in providing good and bad information, and receives good and bad criticisms.
However, I hope those who posted interesting sites or projects, related or not to Yam, still continue to post their findings so that we can see the progress in reality....not in amassed stories.

Angel

Well Kaloy,

In may opinion, the journey for this EXPEDITION has come to an end. So much has been learned from EXPERTS and alike, from actual diggings, unusual unearthed objects, stories heard from one mouth that came from another mouth which was read and excerpted from the "will" of the of the gold holder.
This thread helps a lot in providing good and bad information, and receives good and bad criticisms.
However, I hope those who posted interesting sites or projects, related or not to Yam, still continue to post their findings so that we can see the progress in reality....not in amassed stories.

Angel :read2:hello,angel good to see you again merry x'mas and happy new to all  edong.

Hola to all pipol on forum!!!

After 24 long years since i stayed here in abroad, i couldnt still forget my first time to saw a 6 Kg swiss mark war jap gold it was found underneath the center of the  boulder by my dad it was our stepping stone to improve our lives a little bit. Now that i grew out at 31 i decided to my self to go and find a hidden war JAP treasure adventure to my self. Equipt with my personal knowledge and through research on how the underground tunnels are built by japanese and nazi's during WW2 there chemical components, materials being used  and how to artificially weather them to break. I also have the USGS of Luzon before and during WW2 including the japanese position along the coast of Lingayen Gulf and the mountain artillery strongholds that coast up to Solano taken from reliable US regiment force soldiers who chased them, i even have there personal diary photo scanned with japanese camp positions marked on it, and marked the exact coordinates on my GPS and began scanning satellite imagery so it will be a good prospect to start on those places once i get my foot on philippine ground. I dont believe on traditional secret japanese codes now a days but if you would ask me that question 20 years ago maybe i would believe on it hahahaha, coz the technologies for scanning and locating treasures burried in underground tunnels up to 35 meters deep is made easy with the latest technology that will show you the water deep traps, the volume and thickness of the tunnel concrete and of course the JAP WAR GOLD burried way way ahead before the big DIG thats why im bringing with me my state of the gold scanner which is proven 100% when we made a dig of gold on TEXAS mountains. so see you all and happy hunting !!!

Hola to all pipol on forum!!!

After 24 long years since i stayed here in abroad, i couldnt still forget my first time to saw a 6 Kg swiss mark war jap gold it was found underneath the center of the  boulder by my dad it was our stepping stone to improve our lives a little bit. Now that i grew out at 31 i decided to my self to go and find a hidden war JAP treasure adventure to my self. Equipt with my personal knowledge and through research on how the underground tunnels are built by japanese and nazi's during WW2 there chemical components, materials being used  and how to artificially weather them to break. I also have the USGS of Luzon before and during WW2 including the japanese position along the coast of Lingayen Gulf and the mountain artillery strongholds that coast up to Solano taken from reliable US regiment force soldiers who chased them, i even have there personal diary photo scanned with japanese camp positions marked on it, and marked the exact coordinates on my GPS and began scanning satellite imagery so it will be a good prospect to start on those places once i get my foot on philippine ground. I dont believe on traditional secret japanese codes now a days but if you would ask me that question 20 years ago maybe i would believe on it hahahaha, coz the technologies for scanning and locating treasures burried in underground tunnels up to 35 meters deep is made easy with the latest technology that will show you the water deep traps, the volume and thickness of the tunnel concrete and of course the JAP WAR GOLD burried way way ahead before the big DIG thats why im bringing with me my state of the gold scanner which is proven 100% when we made a dig of gold on TEXAS mountains. so see you all and happy hunting !!!

dear n project, nice meeting you would you mind tell us ,or pm me what kind of scanner your talking about? i am realy interested ,and how much it cost thanks  edong

gud eve experts.....

where exactly in pozorrubio they get the 77 gold bars?

im from pozorrubio...

btw do you have treasure map of pozorrubio?

or map of osmena st. in pozorrubio do you have?

where on digging right now....

we find a signs..already... the signs are 3 triangle shape made of cloth color black we find the first triangle cloth about 4feet then the second one is 6 feet and the last one is 7feet after the its a hard mud color red then after that mud we find a like a charcoal and a little bit of rock color black and white on top then we put "muriatic acid" on the rock it reacts...then after the rock its a beach sand....

what do you think we will continue digging or not?

pls text me at 09267304796... im not always online....

pls reply...

thanks in advance

Wow!
This is a great thread !
Gotta get me a gold scanner and treasure map.

My Electroscope 301 should do...  all I need is the map !

.

gud eve experts.....

where exactly in pozorrubio they get the 77 gold bars?

im from pozorrubio...

btw do you have treasure map of pozorrubio?

or map of osmena st. in pozorrubio do you have?

where on digging right now....

we find a signs..already... the signs are 3 triangle shape made of cloth color black we find the first triangle cloth about 4feet then the second one is 6 feet and the last one is 7feet after the its a hard mud color red then after that mud we find a like a charcoal and a little bit of rock color black and white on top then we put "muriatic acid" on the rock it reacts...then after the rock its a beach sand....

what do you think we will continue digging or not?

pls text me at 09267304796... im not always online....

pls reply...

thanks in advance

Looks like ure on a trap charcoal are usually used for WW2 japanese suppression of biological and chemical warfare during there times it is a natural filter agent substitute to charcoal mask during WW2 so dig carefully and record all the makers in every feet you dug. If your team have any latest gold scanner to see the ground it would help to save you time from digging the wrong spot.

We also have a project near to you're place(part of the billion dollar mountain we are looking for) we are already at the main door of the gold bar vault at 12 Ft. and there is TWO 160 lb bomb booby trap rigged on the main door so we circled around, no water trap have ever burst on our dig. spring type land mines on it but we have avoided to trigger the trap by using our state of the art gold detector including moving around on a poison gas chamber and a water trap at 8 FT. now we only need a chemical to break the concrete (based from my GPR atleast 6.5m thick of war cement) still didn't arrive from China. Our project just last 2 weeks at it saves a lot of man power at money for hiring heavy equipments. We did not follow the signs and makers because while i was detecting i found and access tunnel behind the VAULT using GPR mode probably it is where the SHUBO engineer used to escape after planting the booby traps it is atleast 2.6 feet height tunnel accesed only by crawling at the rear end near and old tree. one of the sad part of our dig is that we found atleast 60 skeleton while i was using my GPR poor souls and casualty of war.

hello guys.....

we stop digging,,,because of lots of water...we use 2 water pump then 1 subersable pump...but still the water dont dry...sa water level stay until our stoac...we will resume it on april....

guys only 1 question...pls answer it...

how many meters away from te target? beacuse its all sand that were digging...

thanks...

pls text me at 09267304796

visit me at www.tseatc.com

BTW,
 
The History Channel program was for the most part accurate up to the point that you see Major General John Signlaub at the Malinta tunnel. After that is all CIA propaganda. The investigator that talks about the CIA Director needed money and said what they wanted her to say, etc. Bob worked with Singlaub on a few projects.
 
Wayne

At the risk of being monitored I registered on this site to say that I appreciate information being conveyed by those who are in the know like WaynePhillips, ZOBEX, ANGEL_09, and SWR. I have a question, what should the approximate size of a 6.2 Kg bar of gold be? (i.e. Does let's say 8 inches long by 4 inches wide by 2 inches thick make sense?

Use this calculation :::

1 cubic inch of pure gold weighs 316.598 grams; 10.17886 troy oz; or 11.16767 imperial ounces.

The above answer is rounded to the nearest milligram or to the 5th decimal position on both imperial and troy ounces.

These numbers are detailed approximations based upon the following information and formula:

There are 19.32 grams of gold per cubic centimeter (assuming 99.9+% pure gold)
One cubic inch = 16.387064 cubic centimeters
One gram =
0.0321507466 troy ounce or
0.0352739619 ounces


General Singlaub and Col. Whittle make no bones over hauling out the gold, I was talking to him last month about things in the Islands and current USG extractions from the Philippines.  How do you think Master Obama is paying for covert USG global operations with our economy.

Zobex

HI Zobie  long time'

Don Jose de La Mancha

BTW,
 
The History Channel program was for the most part accurate up to the point that you see Major General John Signlaub at the Malinta tunnel. After that is all CIA propaganda. The investigator that talks about the CIA Director needed money and said what they wanted her to say, etc. Bob worked with Singlaub on a few projects.
 
Wayne

At the risk of being monitored I registered on this site to say that I appreciate information being conveyed by those who are in the know like WaynePhillips, ZOBEX, ANGEL_09, and SWR. I have a question, what should the approximate size of a 6.2 Kg bar of gold be? (i.e. Does let's say 8 inches long by 4 inches wide by 2 inches thick make sense?

What you should do is look here.  Do the research, learn, we all learn from each other.

http://www.onlineconversion.com/

http://www.onlineconversion.com/weight_all.htm

6.2 kilogram = 199.334 628 73 troy ounce

http://www.elmhurst.edu/~chm/vchembook/125Adensitygold.html

This a picture of a bunch of 6.2's  .  Burmas. 87% pure.

BTW,
 
The History Channel program was for the most part accurate up to the point that you see Major General John Signlaub at the Malinta tunnel. After that is all CIA propaganda. The investigator that talks about the CIA Director needed money and said what they wanted her to say, etc. Bob worked with Singlaub on a few projects.
 
Wayne

At the risk of being monitored I registered on this site to say that I appreciate information being conveyed by those who are in the know like WaynePhillips, ZOBEX, ANGEL_09, and SWR. I have a question, what should the approximate size of a 6.2 Kg bar of gold be? (i.e. Does let's say 8 inches long by 4 inches wide by 2 inches thick make sense?

Gues who,

 When you are asking about the size, you are asking about the physical magnitude of something, and the dimensions you had given is the alledged physical measurement of the gold bar. If the density of the object will not be considered, then the physical size you had given is correct...but if we are speaking about gold, any size will not be suffice to determine its authenticity. The sizes, volume and density must all agree to prove that it is authentic. It means that these three values must be true to each other to give the basic properties of gold....Hence, a 1cm x 1cm x 1 cm measurement, will give you a volume of 1 cubic centimeter having a weight of 19.32 grams. This is the basis of gold calculation.

(You can use this "seed" information to determine if your gold is authentic or not.)

Angel_09

The fast field way of testing is to pick up the bar, hold one end and swing down real hard, bang the other end of the bar on a hard rock, railroad track or steel beam.  If it bends, you have some gold.  If it just rings and stings your hand then drop it on the foot of the guy trying to pass it off as real and give him a sore foot.

Zobex

At the risk of being monitored I registered on this site to say that I appreciate information being conveyed by those who are in the know like WaynePhillips, ZOBEX, ANGEL_09, and SWR. I have a question, what should the approximate size of a 6.2 Kg bar of gold be? (i.e. Does let's say 8 inches long by 4 inches wide by 2 inches thick make sense?

Gues who,

 When you are asking about the size, you are asking about the physical magnitude of something, and the dimensions you had given is the alledged physical measurement of the gold bar. If the density of the object will not be considered, then the physical size you had given is correct...but if we are speaking about gold, any size will not be suffice to determine its authenticity. The sizes, volume and density must all agree to prove that it is authentic. It means that these three values must be true to each other to give the basic properties of gold....Hence, a 1cm x 1cm x 1 cm measurement, will give you a volume of 1 cubic centimeter having a weight of 19.32 grams. This is the basis of gold calculation.

(You can use this "seed" information to determine if your gold is authentic or not.)

Angel_09
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Angel_09 and Zobex ~ Thank you both so much for your responses. I think the best way to determine authenticity is to cut the item in half and test it, and then take it to a refinery/assayer and have the item fire assayed. I'm just trying to determine if the dimensions above might make sense with respect to the weight before doing the aforementioned. This way I should at least have an idea if I am dealing with AU (Or tungsten) Thanks Again ~
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HIO  Much as I hate to say it, I tend to agree with swr, they are alloy bars,  gold never develops a patina such as that.  Although I once lost a nice treasure by believing Dore bars were simply brass.  In this case the 99.999  eliminates that, since they are represented as pure Gold bars..

Don Jose de La Mancha

Gues Who,

If the dimensions and weight you gave previously refers to the recently posted bars, then SWR, Zobex and Realde are correct: Either it is brass or alloy. And I admire the type of lettering used nowadays, they are evolving, from rough and rugged to nice and smooth.

Do one thing, immerse your gold bar into graduated container with water and find the volume in inches and multiply by 316 and it will give you the weight; or if it is in cubic centimeter, multiply it with 19.3 and it will also give you the weight, then put your 'gold' into weighing scale and see if the weight is equal or approximately near to your calculated values (If it is 99.999 pure).

Now, if the dimensions and weight you're asking before does not represents the picture, then you can try a "destructive test" by re-melting your bar completely to determine if it is an alloy, tungsten or true gold and do the first procedure.


Angel_09

Gues Who,

If the dimensions and weight you gave previously refers to the recently posted bars, then SWR, Zobex and Realde are correct: Either it is brass or alloy. And I admire the type of lettering used nowadays, they are evolving, from rough and rugged to nice and smooth.

Do one thing, immerse your gold bar into graduated container with water and find the volume in inches and multiply by 316 and it will give you the weight; or if it is in cubic centimeter, multiply it with 19.3 and it will also give you the weight, then put your 'gold' into weighing scale and see if the weight is equal or approximately near to your calculated values (If it is 99.999 pure).

Now, if the dimensions and weight you're asking before does not represents the picture, then you can try a "destructive test" by re-melting your bar completely to determine if it is an alloy, tungsten or true gold and do the first procedure.


Angel_09



Thank you Angel_09, SWR, Zobex, and Realde. Actually the bars I was questioning with respect to weight and dimensions are not these. They are these much less authentic looking ones.

Thank you Angel_09, SWR, Zobex, and Realde. Actually the bars I was questioning with respect to weight and dimensions are not the ones posted above, but tthese much less authentic looking ones.

Zobex ~ GBoy sent me the same picture of a bunch of 6.2's  .  Burmas. 87% pure.

Zobex ~ GBoy sent me the same picture of a bunch of 6.2's  .  Burmas. 87% pure.

Who did you think gave it to him  - - - - - - .

Oh I thought he said it was one of his 100+ sites.

SWR ~ Where did you get this information from? (World War ll period gold bars only used three fine digits (ie: 99.5) The 999.9 marks came about sometime in the 1990s)

hi zobex,
its been a long time since you posted, been looking forward to hear from you again, i hope your doing fine, because from your very wide actual experience and knowledge about this topic
there are some questions i would like to ask from you,

do you think the japanese warloots buried here in the PI are all in maountanious areas?
is there a chance that it could be buried in flat land sites?
another thing i heard is the warloots are buried very deep. how deep as the case maybe?
do you have a new email add? i've been emailing you quite a lot with your old email but with no response.

i hope all is well over there.
take care!

zobex, other pros:
the pic is taken from a portion of a map, the site is an old house...
dont know if there was a wall clock in the house, or does it mean something else?
thanks....

On Golden Lily maps this is referred to as a fulcrum point. It can represent the time of day with respect to markers on the site, depth, compass bearings, distance, etc. Do you have the other portion(s) of this map? The kin sign for gold is out of place.

Also, if there is a Japanese flag on another portion of this map, the direction that it is flying will tell you if you need to view the map in a mirror if the image is reversed.

zobex, other pros:
the pic is taken from a portion of a map, the site is an old house...
dont know if there was a wall clock in the house, or does it mean something else?
thanks....

If a flag pole is with the flag flying to the right, it is face up, if the flag is flying to the left, reverse it.  The pole is from the bottom up and flag to the right, that is a proper orientation.  From what little there is shown, you have a down under room with an entrance, it is rigged to blow.  Only my opinion.

I have an original linen map with three flag poles in front of the complex, no flags on any of the poles.  But they put the names of the town on it !!!!!  The complex is gone but we found the site.  The map was cut out of a non-magnetic documents safe found inside of a vault, 60 feet under a city street.  A boarding house of poor people lived on top of a fortune but could not buy a bowl of rice.  Sad.

Zobex

Yes, the name of the town, and the province, and the project number are indicated on genuine maps. The project number should be at the base of the flagpole. All of these are indicated in Kanji, Kana, Hiragana, and Katakana.

Yes, the name of the town, and the province, and the project number are indicated on genuine maps. The project number should be at the base of the flagpole. All of these are indicated in Kanji, Kana, Hiragana, and Katakana.

As is on the map.  This is a clipped down section, naturally.

Zobex

Does anyone have any information on the railroad that ran out of the Davao Gulf from Maco to up north near Mawab on Mindanao, ????

Zobex

there's no flagpole nor flag in the map but this figure is found on the lower right portion of the map.

There is no Kanji, Kana, Hiragana, and Katakana on the portion of the map you posted. It would be better if you posted the map in it's entirety, but understandable if you don't want to. You can PM me if you need this translated if you are comfortable to do so.

I see interesting posts again in this thread, but still there is so much imagination and fiction ...from my experience, if you do not see a solid evidence at 1 meter from surface, there is not much hope...regardless of maps. Better to ask/find people nearby during 1942-1945 and ask about unusual activity by J. soldiers or K. conscripts.

Finding the "spot" is just 1% of the task. 99% is dismantling the structure. Mr. Angel 09, you belong to the "few" in this thread to whom I shared my documentation. It's been another 150-backhoe days afterwards those photographs. I am taking a rest. Nice to hear from you again Mr. Zobex...

Jonesindy

I see interesting posts again in this thread, but still there is so much imagination and fiction ...from my experience, if you do not see a solid evidence at 1 meter from surface, there is not much hope...regardless of maps. Better to ask/find people nearby during 1942-1945 and ask about unusual activity by J. soldiers or K. conscripts.

Finding the "spot" is just 1% of the task. 99% is dismantling the structure. Mr. Angel 09, you belong to the "few" in this thread to whom I shared my documentation. It's been another 150-backhoe days afterwards those photographs. I am taking a rest. Nice to hear from you again Mr. Zobex...

Jonesindy

Are you STILL digging in that hole   I suspect there is something there but you should be looking for a small tunnel that has been back filled with disguise.  The IJA would tunnel down to bed rock and then cut a tunnel and vault complex.  If you are digging dirt I believe you are looking in all the wrong places.  That is why anyone should start a dig on the smallest scale and look for signs and markers.  That will all get lost in the big dig.

Z

There is no Kanji, Kana, Hiragana, and Katakana on the portion of the map you posted. It would be better if you posted the map in it's entirety, but understandable if you don't want to. You can PM me if you need this translated if you are comfortable to do so.

On the complete map is the name of the town in English which is common since the Filipino towns were known in english.  It was definitely written in an Asian hand not a Filipino hand (Filipinos are classified as Malaysian by court ruling).  Further the name of the building in Japanese is written naming the building.  So rather than to work at the map codes we simply went to the old town, found the old people and asked them where this certain Japanese building was at.  They told us, we went there and found the site.  All structures had been removed.  Then I brought to the site an "Old Man" friend to walk and tell us where to find the site.  On the map it specifies a tunnel cut into rock at a 45deg angle down with step stairs cut into the stone.  At the end it depicts a steel bar gate like a jail cell and a large room behind the steel door.  The room is big enough that it depicts posts or pillars to hold the ceiling up.  The map depicts the room filled with box's stacked from floor to ceiling.  Filipinos are familiar with what I mean when I say an "Old Man" Tribal see'r .  He sacrificed a white pig and then walked us to the exact spot.  We dug and about 2 meters down in the soil we hit right on a cut rock tunnel that had steps on the floor, going down about 30deg angle.  At that point we stopped and back filled the hole and planted trees on the spot.  The site has some problems.  It is located between a camp of NPA and a AFP camp.  First the NPA run across the site and attack the AFP.  Then the AFP chase the NPA back across the site.  It's like a freaking highway.  If we go all the way down digging to the steel door and get inside, odds are either one side or the other will catch us in the act and either way we will get into a fire fight and the other side will grab the treasure.  So we will just wait and see what happens in the future.

Mean while I am still stuck in the USA waiting for some government documents to get signed and I am getting a flat butt from setting here waiting.

Zobex

Oh sorry Zobex, I was referring to the map that Kaloy posted. I couldn't agree more about talking to people to finds things. Good reliable, accurate, honest history is oftentimes much better than all the technological gadgets. How does one go about finding an old man? I know of a site with a ton of paranormal activity and I have heard others describe the type of success that you are describing with these people.

There is no Kanji, Kana, Hiragana, and Katakana on the portion of the map you posted. It would be better if you posted the map in it's entirety, but understandable if you don't want to. You can PM me if you need this translated if you are comfortable to do so.

On the complete map is the name of the town in English which is common since the Filipino towns were known in english.  It was definitely written in an Asian hand not a Filipino hand (Filipinos are classified as Malaysian by court ruling).  Further the name of the building in Japanese is written naming the building.  So rather than to work at the map codes we simply went to the old town, found the old people and asked them where this certain Japanese building was at.  They told us, we went there and found the site.  All structures had been removed.  Then I brought to the site an "Old Man" friend to walk and tell us where to find the site.  On the map it specifies a tunnel cut into rock at a 45deg angle down with step stairs cut into the stone.  At the end it depicts a steel bar gate like a jail cell and a large room behind the steel door.  The room is big enough that it depicts posts or pillars to hold the ceiling up.  The map depicts the room filled with box's stacked from floor to ceiling.  Filipinos are familiar with what I mean when I say an "Old Man" Tribal see'r .  He sacrificed a white pig and then walked us to the exact spot.  We dug and about 2 meters down in the soil we hit right on a cut rock tunnel that had steps on the floor, going down about 30deg angle.  At that point we stopped and back filled the hole and planted trees on the spot.  The site has some problems.  It is located between a camp of NPA and a AFP camp.  First the NPA run across the site and attack the AFP.  Then the AFP chase the NPA back across the site.  It's like a freaking highway.  If we go all the way down digging to the steel door and get inside, odds are either one side or the other will catch us in the act and either way we will get into a fire fight and the other side will grab the treasure.  So we will just wait and see what happens in the future.

Mean while I am still stuck in the USA waiting for some government documents to get signed and I am getting a flat butt from setting here waiting.

Zobex

Oh sorry Zobex, I was referring to the map that Kaloy posted. I couldn't agree more about talking to people to finds things. Good reliable, accurate, honest history is oftentimes much better than all the technological gadgets. How does one go about finding an old man? I know of a site with a ton of paranormal activity and I have heard others describe the type of success that you are describing with these people.

zobex
 i found a symbol of a metal door before, complete with gate bolt barrel locks and hinges and a rusted shovel, a few meters away was a rusted steel snake. dont know whats the meaning, maybe you can give your precious opinion? thanks!

there are two sets of kanji in big and bold letters in the map

There is no Kanji, Kana, Hiragana, and Katakana on the portion of the map you posted. It would be better if you posted the map in it's entirety, but understandable if you don't want to. You can PM me if you need this translated if you are comfortable to do so.

so what's the meaning of the kanji on the upper left of the "clock"?

I see interesting posts again in this thread, but still there is so much imagination and fiction ...from my experience, if you do not see a solid evidence at 1 meter from surface, there is not much hope...regardless of maps. Better to ask/find people nearby during 1942-1945 and ask about unusual activity by J. soldiers or K. conscripts.

Finding the "spot" is just 1% of the task. 99% is dismantling the structure. Mr. Angel 09, you belong to the "few" in this thread to whom I shared my documentation. It's been another 150-backhoe days afterwards those photographs. I am taking a rest. Nice to hear from you again Mr. Zobex...

Jonesindy

i agree...... what's your view on a sealed jar but empty taken out at 1 meter deep?

There is no Kanji, Kana, Hiragana, and Katakana on the portion of the map you posted. It would be better if you posted the map in it's entirety, but understandable if you don't want to. You can PM me if you need this translated if you are comfortable to do so.

Most of the kanji, katakana and the korean writings were translated already( except those i posted)...... the problem is, i dont know where/what point of the house is the clock referring to, my idea is, at 6 o'clock there is a box and at 3/9 o'clock there is a vase with something precious on it.... bu then and again, what point in the house is the clock referring to?

Oh sorry Zobex, I was referring to the map that Kaloy posted. I couldn't agree more about talking to people to finds things. Good reliable, accurate, honest history is oftentimes much better than all the technological gadgets. How does one go about finding an old man? I know of a site with a ton of paranormal activity and I have heard others describe the type of success that you are describing with these people.

I have worked on four sites with SEVER paranormal activity.  If you don't know what you are doing a person can get into some serious long term problems.  What island is this site on and was the site a prison or torture site or a mass burial site ??

I have a lot of work back logged on me now and I have already a couple of promises I must keep with some other TH'rs in the islands but if your spot is REALLY paranormal maybe I bring a Tribal and we can check out what the cause of the activity is.  He is really good and honest.  All he asks is an honest heart and a little support for his tribe like food and medicine.  Someday these men will all be dead and so will their skills.  They are the last of the true tribals that were not polluted by modern society.

Z

I see interesting posts again in this thread, but still there is so much imagination and fiction ...from my experience, if you do not see a solid evidence at 1 meter from surface, there is not much hope...regardless of maps. Better to ask/find people nearby during 1942-1945 and ask about unusual activity by J. soldiers or K. conscripts.

Finding the "spot" is just 1% of the task. 99% is dismantling the structure. Mr. Angel 09, you belong to the "few" in this thread to whom I shared my documentation. It's been another 150-backhoe days afterwards those photographs. I am taking a rest. Nice to hear from you again Mr. Zobex...

Jonesindy

i agree...... what's your view on a sealed jar but empty taken out at 1 meter deep?

Are you TOTALLY sure it was sealed or just stuck from setting.  If just stuck from setting then it was a valuable to the person who buried it or it is a decoy.  The proper way to bury a jar is to fill pack it with sand and then bury it, this reduces the odds of it being crushed.  If there was a DEFINITE seal on the jar I suspect it contained the spirit of a dead.  Spirits (not souls) can be captured in a container.  That is why you find them in a sealed tunnel.  If you bury alive a person in a vault, when dead the soul is gone immediately but the spirit can be captured.  This was the purpose for mass burials alive.  That left an army of tormented spirits to watch over the treasure and why, when a large deposit with dead inside is found, there are so many problems encountered.  People get the soul and spirit mixed up because they don't know what they are talking about.


Z

I agree with you Zobex. Lot of treasure hunters mixed up spirit and soul. Spirit is different from soul, because human being consist of flesh (the body), soul and the spirit. When a person dies, his soul will die with him, and the spirit will return to God.

I'm just wondering how other human being captures the spirit and make it captive for sometime.

Zobex ~ Both on Luzon. One has several hundred Igorot skeletons, the other several hundred POW's reported to be buried alive there. Needless to say extreme paranormal activity at both sites.

Zobex ~ Both on Luzon. One has several hundred Igorot skeletons, the other several hundred POW's reported to be buried alive there. Needless to say extreme paranormal activity at both sites.

OK so if this pic. is real and not faked as a game, we have seen exactly the same white light energy but in our case it was more formed into a human form.  Almost killed some of the Manobo's.  They froze in fear and I was not far away from that.  It was with some IJA who committed Seppuku .

I see you are using a Sony video cam, I am using the Sony HDRXR350V .

Z

Zobex,

Whats up?
You said you are banned here? Now you are ALIVE here again?  ...or you just bought this forum and new owner of TREASURENET, aren't you?

Anyways, When I posted your Gold bar stockpile picture....nobody believes it.....including Angel_09, he even make a fake gold bar stockpile picture out of it,  to make it appear its just computer generated gold bar stockpile. I told them it was found in one of our Mindanao suspected treas sites (LH tunnel) who was explored by my partner Cliff before in 1980'-90's, still nobody believes me.

Anyways, since you are here now...you can explain everything since you are the one who produce that gold bar stockpile picture. But since this is a public forum, we may keep SECRET about it hehehe or just let those gold critics DROOL...

How's Lt. O and Col. I.... are they already in fine health?

Re The railroad in maco and other areas...it was Gen. Murakami's who constructed and opened up that road and other mining areas. My partner Cliffhanger probably knows it or familiar with those areas bcoz it was his grandpa (Murakami) who constructed that areas since 1915-1945.

Zobex,

Whats up?
You said you are banned here? Now you are ALIVE here again?  :headbang:...or you just bought this forum and new owner of TREASURENET, aren't you?

Anyways, When I posted your Gold bar stockpile picture....nobody believes it.....including Angel_09, he even make a fake gold bar stockpile picture out of it,  to make it appear its just computer generated gold bar stockpile. I told them it was found in one of our Mindanao suspected treas sites (LH tunnel) who was explored by my partner Cliff before in 1980'-90's, still nobody believes me.

Anyways, since you are here now...you can explain everything since you are the one who produce that gold bar stockpile picture. But since this is a public forum, we may keep SECRET about it hehehe or just let those gold critics DROOL... :tongue3:

How's Lt. O and Col. I.... are they already in fine health?

Re The railroad in maco and other areas...it was Gen. Murakami's who constructed and opened up that road and other mining areas. My partner Cliffhanger probably knows it or familiar with those areas bcoz it was his grandpa (Murakami) who constructed that areas since 1915-1945.

OK GBoy,   Ha Ha .

As soon as the dam judge signs off the documents I fly, I know I've been saying that for 6 weeks.  I'm plugging in the GPS fix of the former RR tonight.  I found it on the satellite pictures today.  Lt. O is not doing well, he's in a safe house being watched over, he must be 88 years old now!  I'll text you when we land.  Stay out of trouble and don't get shot.  If you do I am going to kick your butt.

This is a treasure LEGEND tread and that means the IJA treasures do not exist so the picture must be fake, say what ??  What is your opinion ?


Z

[This is a treasure LEGEND tread and that means the IJA treasures do not exist so the picture must be fake, say what ?? What is your opinion ?]

Zobex,

Its just alright if you are delayed, just finish first your assignment there and come here later if everything is okey. We will just be around.
Re your GPS program, we will ask some GPS dealer here (mostly Sports/electronic Shops in the malls) and ask their help to download the GPS program.

My partner Cliffhanger is busy in Sierra Madre, however he is willing to help your TH inquiries specially in Mindanao sites. The last time he meet Lt. O and Col. Ito was in 1990....20 years ago, but he lost contact bcoz we concentrated here in Luzon. It was Gen. Murakami (cliff grandpa who told him about Lt. O and Col. I ). Anyways, since you have found them, am glad you take care of them....those are valuable assets.

Does anyone have any information on the railroad that ran out of the Davao Gulf from Maco to up north near Mawab on Mindanao, ?
Zobex

Re these areas....I think Cliff is familiar with these areas bcoz it was his grandpa, the late Gen. Murakami constructed and opened up these roads in 1940's from Masugpo (now Tagum City) to Mawab, Nabuntaran, Monkayo, Campostela valley and help in opening the mining areas in Mt. Diwalwal, Monte Alto, Araibo, Maragusan Valley and L.H. Tunnel. Cliff is well research in that treasure areas bcoz that was his treasure playground before.

HEY !! DON'T POST THAT PHOTO AGAIN. Your TH photos and infos  was supposed to be CONFIDENTIAL AND SECRET, right? Yam critics doesn't believes them anyways, so don't bother...hehehe

"This is a treasure LEGEND tread and that means the IJA treasures do not exist so the picture must be fake, say what ??  What is your opinion ?
"....althought its original....on second thought, I wanted it to be fake so that, nobody will bother us anymore hehehe ...let IJA treasure remain LEGEND, oks? .....

Hi Zobex,

It seems that picture of "gold stockfile" really belongs to you...not from other people who claim it belongs to one of their projects. The thing is, it was posted in some other treasure site, and I commented that it was arranged and photograph to depict quantity, not saying that it is fake or not...and in my analysis, it was arranged to show quantity ....the same techniques done 20 years ago in selling nickel babbit in volume. Half of the photograph was with protective lines, probably not to be copied by other person... and to prove my point that this picture can be easily generated with the use of computer, manual arrangements, or any other means, I reproduced it without those interfering lines, and looks like original without further scrutiny.
Now that you posted the "original" picture without those interfering lines, I roughly show 'some' of the repetitive pictures joined together that makes that picture as it was posted. Please check it out and see it for your self. I'm not saying that you did it, maybe it also came from other source...we all don't know.
About its authenticy, no one can say it is...unless of course it is assayed, but basing pictures alone is not a prerequisites to claim that it is true gold.

                         "NOT ALL METAL STACKED LIKE GOLD CAN BE TREATED AND CONSIDERED AS TRUE GOLD"
Angel_09

Hi Zobex,

It seems that picture of "gold stockfile" really belongs to you...not from other people who claim it belongs to one of their projects. The thing is, it was posted in some other treasure site, and I commented that it was arranged and photograph to depict quantity, not saying that it is fake or not...and in my analysis, it was arranged to show quantity ....the same techniques done 20 years ago in selling nickel babbit in volume. Half of the photograph was with protective lines, probably not to be copied by other person... and to prove my point that this picture can be easily generated with the use of computer, manual arrangements, or any other means, I reproduced it without those interfering lines, and looks like original without further scrutiny.
Now that you posted the "original" picture without those interfering lines, I roughly show 'some' of the repetitive pictures joined together that makes that picture as it was posted. Please check it out and see it for your self. I'm not saying that you did it, maybe it also came from other source...we all don't know.
About its authenticy, no one can say it is...unless of course it is assayed, but basing pictures alone is not a prerequisites to claim that it is true gold.

                         "NOT ALL METAL STACKED LIKE GOLD CAN BE TREATED AND CONSIDERED AS TRUE GOLD"
Angel_09

Angel, you have a perceptive eye.  The bars are laying on their side, because, that is the FLOOR of the tunnel and the camera man is standing on the floor covered in bars using a cheap disposable camera.  When a person carries a bar, they often carry it in their hands, one on each end.  And in ramped edge bars they are often stacked so they ramp to the smaller side up.  So, when you picket it up and carry it, it is in the more common pyramid shape.  Now, when you to go to put it down, you do not set it straight down with the pyramid shape like you see in bank vaults.  Why, because you get your fingers pinched!!  So if you are grunt work, you just bend over and drop it the last inch or so, and, on it's side.  If the bars were all perfectly in rows and displayed nice, then you know it is fake.  I use disposable cameras because when the roll is shot, I smash the camera and take out the spool of film.  Then destroy the camera.  If you have a camera in the jungle and get caught, that is more trouble.  The film can be destroyed by yanking it open to the light.  If you use a digital camera with a sim card, you must remove the sim card and replace it with a dummy card in case the camera gets grabbed.  The best way to destroy a sim card is to hold a cheap cigarette lighter under it and cook it.

I really have little concern if anyone has any view of the authenticity of a picture since it is not theirs.  It's mine, I took the picture.

Zobex

Zobex,

You don't have to explained to some Yam critics re gold bars stockpile and stuff bcoz they don't know you and what you have been through or accomplish re Yam treas hunting hehehe
Let them remain --deleted-- about Yam treas hunting, that way we will be undisturbed.

Angel_09,

This picture belongs to Zobex bcoz he instructed me to post it in several TH forum to prove that Yam Treas exist bcoz he was not able to post it here before. Pinagbawalan siya magpost dito dati.
When Zobex mentioned that these stockpile came from LH Tunnel, I never doubted bcoz that was our treas sites before. When he mentioned Lt.O and Col. I....we never doubted bcoz my partner Cliff had meet them personally before. In fact our plan in 1990 is to let those --deleted-- straggler surrender, so that the treasure sites will be given to us...but it didn't push through. Am glad Zobex was able to follow up and meet these --deleted-- stragglers bcoz they are the REAL --deleted-- hehehe.
In other words....Zobex was able to found treasure on the site that was given by the --deleted--... we failed to find before.  Bcoz we concentrated already in Sierra.

SWR,
Why don't you challenged Zobex re the existence of Yam treasure...am sure he will give you some lectures about treasure hunting and stuff hehehe.
Why would Tony Wells kick us out?...we help him make his treasure forum famous and popular already hehehe

SWR,

I told you to challenge Zobex...if he is penniless hehehe...you can't aren't you?
Whatever you assets?...you multiply it by thousand...thats what he is worth...aren't you Zobex?

Zobex,
Since our beloved SWR d Yam critics doesn't believe your Burma gold bars hahahhaha or the existence of Yam treasures....why don't you show some pictures of burma gold bars on board the private jet...or pictures when it was in Hongkong refinary...am sure SWR d coin hunter will drooooool with envy. hahahahaha or will you still remain SECRETIVE as always?

[I said it was 'sealed' bec. they put a half-inch thick cement on top of the jar to cover its lid/mouth...or more appropriate to say that it was covered.... the jar was supported at the base with the same material as its cover......it seemed that 1/3 of the jar was filled with something that dried up in the course of time and leave a white mark on the jar. the white mark peeled like scales and some settled at the bottom... i found a piece of bone beside the jar... a bone of the hand i guess... also, there was a 7-8 inches long 1 inch wide brick inserted horizontally on the soil adjacent to the jar......]

I see interesting posts again in this thread, but still there is so much imagination and fiction ...from my experience, if you do not see a solid evidence at 1 meter from surface, there is not much hope...regardless of maps. Better to ask/find people nearby during 1942-1945 and ask about unusual activity by J. soldiers or K. conscripts.

Finding the "spot" is just 1% of the task. 99% is dismantling the structure. Mr. Angel 09, you belong to the "few" in this thread to whom I shared my documentation. It's been another 150-backhoe days afterwards those photographs. I am taking a rest. Nice to hear from you again Mr. Zobex...

Jonesindy

i agree...... what's your view on a sealed jar but empty taken out at 1 meter deep?

Are you TOTALLY sure it was sealed or just stuck from setting.  If just stuck from setting then it was a valuable to the person who buried it or it is a decoy.  The proper way to bury a jar is to fill pack it with sand and then bury it, this reduces the odds of it being crushed.  If there was a DEFINITE seal on the jar I suspect it contained the spirit of a dead.  Spirits (not souls) can be captured in a container.  That is why you find them in a sealed tunnel.  If you bury alive a person in a vault, when dead the soul is gone immediately but the spirit can be captured.  This was the purpose for mass burials alive.  That left an army of tormented spirits to watch over the treasure and why, when a large deposit with dead inside is found, there are so many problems encountered.  People get the soul and spirit mixed up because they don't know what they are talking about.


Z

I said it was 'sealed' bec. they put a half-inch thick cement on top of the jar to cover its lid/mouth...or more appropriate to say that it was covered.... the jar was supported at the base with the same material as its cover......it seemed that 1/3 of the jar was filled with something that dried up in the course of time and leave a white mark on the jar. the white mark peeled like scales and some settled at the bottom... i found a piece of bone beside the jar... a bone of the hand i guess... also, there was a 7-8 inches long 1 inch wide brick inserted horizontally on the soil adjacent to the jar......

GBoy , pls let it be.  This site is for exchanging ideas and information not insults.  We all (hopefully) are lucky to have a free forum like this to communicate with each other.  Just because someone does not have anything to share does not mean they should not listen and learn.

As for the site in the picture, let it be.

Z

SWR,

I told you to challenge Zobex...if he is penniless hehehe...you can't aren't you?
Whatever you assets?...you multiply it by thousand...thats what he is worth...aren't you Zobex?

Zobex,
Since our beloved SWR d Yam critics doesn't believe your Burma gold bars hahahhaha or the existence of Yam treasures....why don't you show some pictures of burma gold bars on board the private jet...or pictures when it was in Hongkong refinary...am sure SWR d coin hunter will drooooool with envy. hahahahaha or will you still remain SECRETIVE as always?

Zobex,

Okey...lets leave SWR d coin hunter alone. Anyways, he does not have treasure story in florida to share. Lets just keep the SECRET OF YAM TREASURE LEGENDS to ourselves. And let him have more "fake gold bars picture" as his collections hehehe. 
You don't have to explain to him re those restless tunnel spirits bcoz he had not yet encounter that. Let him be --deleted-- about these kind of SPIRIT ADVENTURE. hehehe 

BTW, my friend Tony Wells ( shipwreck salvager and known even in these forum) well be coming to the Philippines to salvage some spanish galleon in cooperation with Phil gov't to make it legal. He wanted to joint venture with us re our spanish galleon shipwreck.

Since you have a "treasure barge" would you like to join us? Your problem of salvaging your barge is solve. All we have to do is watch or stroll along the beach and have some "sinugba or kinilaw na isda", while waiting for Tony and his salvage team do the job. Anyways, your barge is just a hundred meters only from the shoreline, isn't it? It would gonna be fun...no need to risk our ass in diving, let the professionals do their job. Are you agreeable with that?

SWR,

Oh we already found something...thats why your gold archives is already full isn't? hehehe
I wander how many dilapidated coins, pull tabs, old jewelries or bottles you have collected already in your shallow water garbage collection...was it already sack full?...show it here   ....

Gents,

I will be silent for a while for medical reason....

Gents,

   I developed a kidney stone....its like am being stab in the back...and the knife was twisted, gives me excruciating pain....you can't stand. The once athletic gboy finally had a match. According to doctor due to salty & sweet foods...and not drinking plenty of water.
    Its true, bcoz while inside the Sierra Madre jungle for several years, we drink only 3 glass of water in the river, we never drink a lot for fear of bacterial contamination or amoeba....will these is the end result of it...kidney stone.
    I will be silent for awhile....and have some rest day...but will be back if will get rid of my stone...arrrgggghhh.

[wanted: seeker of the "RS1929" map code... I have the code and the site... But I dont know the orientation... If somebody out there knows how to orient it properly pls pm me asap... thanks]

wanted: seeker of the "RS1929" map code... I have the code and the site... But I dont know the orientation... If somebody out there knows how to orient it properly pls pm me asap... thanks

Zobex,

I found the structure already! are you suggesting that the "structure" is a decoy? and that the valaubles are hidden under plain dirt? you mean no real physical protection? will that be possible. i found many markers before I found the huge structure. I have talked to old folks familiar with the place during the war and was assured that there was plenty of "construction/movement" for at least 1 year at the early days of the war.

I suspect that "it was a deliberate plan to burry something". The name Yama...has nothing to do with it...so I never refer to it as Yama...is is simply a mystery that I like to solve...

Jonesindy

Zobex ~ Both on Luzon. One has several hundred Igorot skeletons, the other several hundred POW's reported to be buried alive there. Needless to say extreme paranormal activity at both sites.

OK so if this pic. is real and not faked as a game, we have seen exactly the same white light energy but in our case it was more formed into a human form.  Almost killed some of the Manobo's.  They froze in fear and I was not far away from that.  It was with some IJA who committed Seppuku .

I see you are using a Sony video cam, I am using the Sony HDRXR350V .

Z

Zobex ~ I wouldn't know how to fake a photo like that even if I wanted to. That particular site had so much intense paranormal activity that I tried all sorts of ways of communicating with the spirits or at least capturing them on video, infrared, audio, etc. without success, then this happened by chance in the photo. The point of sharing this, as I see their are other people here who are not aware that these things exist, is that I think an old man see'er might be effective on this site not far from Manila.....so I guess my question is.....how do I find one of these guys? Thanks ~

Does anybody know the difference between 1940's versus 1980's-1990's dynamite? (How wired, water proof versus not water proofed, etc.)

Thanks ~

Zobex ~ Both on Luzon. One has several hundred Igorot skeletons, the other several hundred POW's reported to be buried alive there. Needless to say extreme paranormal activity at both sites.

OK so if this pic. is real and not faked as a game, we have seen exactly the same white light energy but in our case it was more formed into a human form.  Almost killed some of the Manobo's.  They froze in fear and I was not far away from that.  It was with some IJA who committed Seppuku .

I see you are using a Sony video cam, I am using the Sony HDRXR350V .

Z

Zobex ~ I wouldn't know how to fake a photo like that even if I wanted to. That particular site had so much intense paranormal activity that I tried all sorts of ways of communicating with the spirits or at least capturing them on video, infrared, audio, etc. without success, then this happened by chance in the photo. The point of sharing this, as I see their are other people here who are not aware that these things exist, is that I think an old man see'er might be effective on this site not far from Manila.....so I guess my question is.....how do I find one of these guys? Thanks ~

Well that would depend on what purpose or for what reason do you want to communicate with them ??  As a rule these are not things you want to mess with.  Pending on the strength of a person (mental) you can get attached by one of these things and it will stay with you for the rest of your life.  That is NOT what you want.

If it is treasure hunting in the tunnels then that is a different purpose.  Simply put if you approach this like it is a game or like a movie stunt you see on TV, then you are asking for trouble.  The USG has an extensive program and covert section that deals only with this.  One of the original instructors for the USG Defense Intelligence Agency was Charles Whitehouse.  Charles was a friend of mine and the last project he worked on was one of our tunnels on Mindanao.  Charles was very good at this business and was also killed (assasinated) in 1999.

The REAL people who can do this are generally a dieing breed of Tribals in their 80's or better.  If there is a REAL purpose for doing this, I suppose I could bring one from Mindanao and we could try to determine what is in the tunnel.

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