United Airlines DC-6 Flight 624

I also have a problem with the "bundle of money" being tossed or dropping. If a member of the crew tossed it why not many of other things, like seats parachutes, or luggage. No luggage was found along the flight path, at least not reported. The "bundles of money" may have been very large and wrapped so no one would have known onboard what they were. Still I doubt. But the cargo section was suppose to be were the fire was. It may have fell. (but then why no luggage?)

As for the diamonds...well, maybe they were in the cockpit area. Diamonds are not very big and they were repoted as "registered Mail". Different area of plane? I looked for all report in the papers of the diamonds. Last reported to the papers was 181 I believe. I also assume they were 1 carat or more each because the postal workers were walking and looking probably with racks & shovels.

People I spoke with also gave different versions as to smoke. From the people I talked to it would seem no smoke at Shamokin (one said there was some in Shamokin) but smoke was showing by Mt. Carmel. They said they could definately hear the plane in trouble at Shamokin.

Below is my graphic with an idea of where the debris feild would be. Except for the other side of the Aristes/ Mt. Carmel road. Also what homes in Wilburton #2 at that end were there and which were built after.
But I still defer to you Jeff & Rich.
~Z~

Hello everybody.  Been quite awhile since I made some posts to this board and this thread, so here is a slight correction to Zeawolf's map if I may and more related information to the previous posts.

Zeawolf........It is the American Legion building not the VFW.  You are just off a little bit off on the crash site.  The aircraft crashed in to the transformer (as shown in your pic) and continued directly on up over the dirt road (shown in your pic), and continued on about another 75 yards up the bank.  This is the EXACT crash route...........about 100 yards to the right of the American Legion heading towards Aristes.

Just below the American Legion down the hill in the woods are the remains of several small foundations which Jeff and I detected.   We beleive they are the remains of the houses/shacks of the Chinese immigrants who built the railroad just below the transformer.   Jeff found a Chinese cash coin there.  We also found several harmonica reeds other misc stuff.   The railroad is not there anymore but I have pictures of it being there.  The Coal Company used the railroad to transpot coal.

Here is a revised picture of the crash site as I marked in yellow.  The rest of the map looks accurate Zeawolf.............Rich..............PS:  More stuff to follow

I have to say damn good work to Jeff & Rich!!!
I had lived in Mt. Carmel, Kulpmont, Shamokin & Sunbury for many years before moving to WV. I did a lot of investigation on that crash myself. (sorry to say most of it is missing now after moving)

I would like to add some info I found out...
I started to look for this site after reading a single sentence in a "Treasure" book.
From several people I talked to, they gave me the following...There were almost no full bodies found after the wreck. I was told only a single babies body was recovered. A guy who I worked with at a hardware store told me he and his father were doing some roofing work to their home in Shamokin when the plane came over. It was smoking and they could hear the plane definitely having trouble. The underside of the plane was on fire. (which is the cargo section which had the "bundle of money" more below) The bundle of money (reported to be $250,000.00) supposedly dropped on the way to where the plane crashed. In a coal mining area. (some people have told me it was recovered but never reported to authorities, no one ever says who though.) Also told to me was that immediately after the wreck MANY people showed up and the "Coal & Iron Police" had to stop many and send them back to the road. Also said to me was that the "Coal & Iron Police" took many pieces of property for themselves. Some things like rings and money right off the bodies!

What I researched...(a lot of which I was shown from a file of photocopies in the Shamokin Public library. Some I found in Microfilm at the same Library.)
There is a grave of an unidentified girl (?) in the Centralia grave yard.
On board was two (2) bundles of $250,000.00. A registered package containing diamonds of which it was reported that a group of postal workers, (from where exactly I am not sure) came in to search for. They found 180. (sorry I don't have the photocopies of the article anymore) I believe another mentioned that Mr. Carrol was with two women on the flight. One photocopy at the library has a photo with a dotted line of how the plane landed.

To me it looks like the plane was going to try to head to Bloomsburg to land but was not going to make it so (and this is a guess) the pilot might have been thinking of landing on coal land in the Wilburton area. (near Aristies) then landed in an incline with one wing hitting the transformer. The transformer was a building that fed power to a coal breaker I believe. It is still there. But it was rebuilt with concrete on approximately the same spot. The plane wreckage was bulldozed into a hole and covered after the CAB allowed them to.
 
I myself have been to the site several times. I didn't have a permit though. It is directly behind the Wilburton #2 (a small coal patch of houses that is still there. Wilburton #1 is between Mt. Carmel and this "patch".) VFW or American Legion building on the Aristise side of the "Patch" of houses. When I went in winter time and stood on the coal mine property road to this area, (which divides the crash path) and looked up and down along the path of the wreck, you could make out an area where the plane hit. On the upper side toward the VFW or American Legion building I walk and saw a lot of quartz in the laurel. Down the other way I saw the transformer building to the right side and found metal with rivets like pictured above but smaller.
This was several years ago. The friend who showed me the site later told me of Jeff's & Rich's finds.

~Z~
Here is a graphic I made of the site.

Zeawolf...............here are the 2 people buried at St. Ignatious cemetary in Centralia.

I also have a problem with the "bundle of money" being tossed or dropping. If a member of the crew tossed it why not many of other things, like seats parachutes, or luggage. No luggage was found along the flight path, at least not reported. The "bundles of money" may have been very large and wrapped so no one would have known onboard what they were. Still I doubt. But the cargo section was suppose to be were the fire was. It may have fell. (but then why no luggage?)

As for the diamonds...well, maybe they were in the cockpit area. Diamonds are not very big and they were repoted as "registered Mail". Different area of plane? I looked for all report in the papers of the diamonds. Last reported to the papers was 181 I believe. I also assume they were 1 carat or more each because the postal workers were walking and looking probably with racks & shovels.

People I spoke with also gave different versions as to smoke. From the people I talked to it would seem no smoke at Shamokin (one said there was some in Shamokin) but smoke was showing by Mt. Carmel. They said they could definately hear the plane in trouble at Shamokin.

Below is my graphic with an idea of where the debris feild would be. Except for the other side of the Aristes/ Mt. Carmel road. Also what homes in Wilburton #2 at that end were there and which were built after.
But I still defer to you Jeff & Rich.
~Z~

Newpaper clips of missing $250,000 and diamonds.  PS: There is a lesson to be learned here........never beleive everything what you read in the newspapers.  Who in there right mind would go down in the baggage compartment and start throwing heavy packages out when they are about to crash.   (I think I'd stay right in my seat and buckle down and brase myself, wouldn't you)  They say they found 182 daimonds by picking them up one by one from the mud............yea right, thats what they wanted the public to beleive, they didn't want any looters up there.  There are still diamonds up on there on them ther' hills....................Rich

Like I said I defer to both of you guys. Most of the information I got was from the Shamokin (Mt.Carmel) newspapers. I didn't see anything from other areas news...yet. I guess I was thinking of the unidentified grave when I wrote before. You are right, never trust news, go and research is the way. The report of the helicopter definatly shows that they believed the "bundle" of money did fall out somewhere. I doubt it will ever be known.

As for the crash path, I just drew it in reference to the "dug out section" that is still there. I guess I am wrong as to it's location behind the American Legion.

A funny thing from the articles. It mentioned they retraced the plane's path. But Bear Gap is along a different path from the one I was told. I wonder if they flew around the Bear Gap area in the plane BEFORE crashing. Basiclly meaning they flew from Shamokin to Mt. Carmel, then (maybe) they flew out towards Eleysburg area, where the Northumberland Airport is now, but (maybe) they decided they could not make it and came back to the crash site.
~Z~

PS. could you repost the helicopter rticle. It reads like it is missing parts in two places.

[I should add there is another article sayiing there was NO Money on Board That it was taken off at there first Stop before Continuing to New York NOW, What was That about ? ;)]

I believe the whole article is there.



I should add there is another article sayiing there was NO Money on Board 
        That it was taken off at there first Stop before Continuing to New York  NOW, What was That about ?  ;)

a day or 2 after the Cash Search was Printed,
this headline and statement was Released

Sorry for condition, This was printed from Microfilm,
at the Mt. Carmel Library.

COVER-UP ? Or TRUTH ?

.

Jeff, great articles! I wish you had a better copy of the "missing Money" one.

I also think I know why Rich shows a different path. I was told the present transformer was totally rebuilt. From the bottom looking up, they moved and built the transformer stronger but more to the left of the crash path.
I love all the material you have. I really wish I hadn't lost mine or I would add it here. If by chance I find it or go back to Shamokin I will add it. I believe the Shamokin Library has alot of the Mt. Carmel newspaper on microfilm since the MtCarmel paper was bought by the Shamokin one. The Mt. Carmel News (?) bought by the Shamokin Item to become the Shamokin News Item. I also think the Shamokin Library had a new microfilm machine with a a better in-system copier the last time I was there several years ago. But call them to check first.
~Z~

The Mt Carmel Microfilm is very poor.

parts Missing due to off center filming.
and out of focus.

Then add Photo Copying from the microfilm.

It was a Nightmare.
I Know I missed Important info just because it was hard to read.
Plus getting Motion Sickness Going through roll after roll

Jeff,
Great story. I was born up there a year after the crash and growing up, I heard many stories from relatives in the area. They reported that quite a few diamonds and diamond rings were found by locals at the crash site.

Jeff,
Great story. I was born up there a year after the crash and growing up, I heard many stories from relatives in the area. They reported that quite a few diamonds and diamond rings were found by locals at the crash site.

  Yes in talking to the People up there,
I heard many of those stories also.

Detectors didn't exist, so they used Screens

All I can say is WOW! 

This is what I would consider the major leagues of Metal Detecting.  If there was ever a time when MDing needed heros, you guy are it!!

Bravo Zulu!!

Wow Jeff,
That must have been an amazing hunt, I think it would be a bit erie being there knowing that all those people died in that plane crash.  Must have been something to hunt it though and probably a lot of digging from the wreckage.
Looks like you found quite a bit of history though.

Wow Jeff,
That must have been an amazing hunt, I think it would be a bit erie being there knowing that all those people died in that plane crash.  Must have been something to hunt it though and probably a lot of digging from the wreckage.
Looks like you found quite a bit of history though.

  What just came to mind

The most Eerie thing for me was, we were searching on
June 17, 2003, 25 years to the day, & I remember a plane
Flying over the area, and remember commenting to Rich
about it.
   It was just Coincidence, no connection,
However,
     a day or two Before one of the TV stations flew over in a Chopper
trying to Match the Flight path for a news story.

No we didn't do an Interview, but the land owners did.

Jeff:

The silver broach... does it say "Palma Picasso" on the back? It looks like something I saw.

Mark

No it Dosn't Mark

[gK co]

Sorry I can't get a clear Pic or Scan
but in the Circle it has

         gK co
     and under it STERLING

Jeff,

  Check this site out. Is this the broach?

http://www.mimideeartwear.com/items/308263/item308263store.html#item

Congratulations on your finds. Look forward to reading more!

Your Friend,

Steve in Michigan

WOW Very Close Steve.

Different shape (MABY)
mine went through the Crash, so it could be bent.

but definately the same designer.

Mine appears different at the Bottom on how it's Connected.
May be an earlier version of the one shown, since mine is Definately pre 48

Mine



Theirs





mine back



Definately Same manufacturer

Jeff of PA,  Hello from a most recient MDer.  Jeff, I just read your story of Flight 624 and it
brought back some vivid memories of my memories of WWII.  I was approx. 7years old when it started and living in the middle of Fl's Everglades. (my father being a bridge builder) I was born and lived for a short time in the Springhead section (Hillsborough County) and 8 miles south of Plant City, FL.   During WWII, We had several occasions of B-17's crashing due to sabotours works. From what I can remember were esponiage agents. (Germans) I went to one such crash site and (not alone, but with a few other guys in the neighborhood) we found a lot of aluminum A/C parts (1 engine, parts from the verticle stabilizer, etc.). The Army Air Corps didn't get a lot of the parts until weeks later.  Walking around this site (I don't remember exactly who, exclaimed "Hey, here's a watch", he reached reached down and to our dismay was a hand and part of an arm with the watch still attached. A site I'll never forget.
We got the H--l out of there, went home and told 1 of the guys father about it and I guess he got ahold of the AAC and they removed it and we were told to not go near any sites again. so
of course we didn't. Too scared, truth be known.

           All I can say after reading your post, it's about the coolist posts I've read since joining up with all of you. It's been one of the most enjoyable times I've had for years. I've seen the most kindness, closeness, respect and camaraderie and feelings for others I've only seen in my
previous time in the military. Thanks for your insight and your finds(+ witticism). Take care,HH and hope to see much more from you and your friend in the future.   As always,
olegator       Am sorry if I offended ANYONE about the B-17 crash site, but it was the reality of war.  And just to say that all the crosses in graveyards with servicemen's/womens names on them are my HERO's. Just my 2cents worth.    olegator

First let me Give you a Late Welcome to TNet gator.
   Your Expierence, although a bit Harrowing I'm sure,
    Was still Intresting to read. Not sure I would want to
     Expierence that myself 
Thanks for the Nice Comments, and just an Addition.
From what I was told yesterday,
This search, although Over,
May have additional outgrowth.
and Details will be added when Available.

 

kinda creepy but better recovered than destroyed by the mining company.

Jeff,

Fantastic reading!  I thouroughly enjoyed seeing your finds.  That is what is so exciting about the hobby; we get to preserve history.  Very cool indeed!!!  Thanks for sharing.

Baldingboy

I know you hunted this site already and you may already have these articles...but I will post incase you don't.

GOOD JOB...GOOD JOB!

This was the third time I've read this thread & I get something new each time.  This should be required reading for anyone remotely interested in our "sport".

Thank You!

DR

I live in Numidia and I am doing a book on Centralia and have researched the 624 crash but have not been able to locate the site. Does anyone have the GPS settings? What I would really like to do is to meet with anyone that has been to the site to get their input.

Bob Rush

Welcome Bob

if you turn West at the Church in aristis
and travel about a Mile till you see the
"WELCOME to WILBURTON" Sign

The site is right there where the sign is
you just walk in there and the Whole mountain Side
is the Debris Field.
the Power Station was at the bottom of that mountain
just accross a Small dirt Road.

Sorry no GPS settings

The owners are very Friendly, But Permission to
enter the Property is Necessary.
And can usually be obtained
At a Dirt Road a few hundred feet before the Wilburton Sign.

   

Wow thats an absolute beautiful masonic ring! It looks like it could be handmade possibly?

A bitter sweet story. Maybe you will find the missing loot.

Due to the Fact I have now heard from 3 people related to persons on board. I am listing the complete list of those onboard.

Capt. George Warner Jr.   Age 35   Pilot Westmont Ill.
____________________________________________
Richard C. Schember   Age 26  First Officer  Elgin, Ill
____________________________________________
Nancy L. Brown Age 24 Stewardess Fort Myers, Florida
____________________________________________
Lorena R. Berg  Age 28  Stewardess Woodstock, Ill.
____________________________________________
Earl Carroll Age 54 Restaurant/Nightclub Owner, Theatrical Producer Hollywood, Calif.
____________________________________________
Venita Varden (Oakie) Age ?? Former Follies Girl, New York Actress, ex wife of Comedian Jack Oakie Hollywood Calif.
_____________________________________________
Beryl Wallace Age ?? Actress,Earl Carrol's Lead Showgirl, Radio, Movie & TV Star Hollywood, Calif
_____________________________________________
E, George Von Sebo Age ?? Head of Warehousing & Merchandising for Devoe & Reynolds (Paint) Bronxville,
New York
_____________________________________________
Parker W. Silzer Age 48 Asst. Head of Warehousing & Merchandising for Devoe & Reynolds (Paint) and only son of Governor George S. Silzer of N.J. Metuchen,New Jersey
_____________________________________________
Mrs. Alta Gwinn Saunders Age ?? Professor Buisness English since 1919, University of Ill. Urbana,ILINOIS
____________________________________________
Hugh McCloskey Age 32 Attorney, Texaco Oil Long Island, New York
____________________________________________
Lieutnant Commander C.S. Avery Age ?? U.S. Navy S.F. Calif.
___________________________________________
Nathan Berke Age ?? Merchant, Berke Bakeries Brooklyn, N.Y.
_________________________________________
Ernest Winckoff Age ?? Berke Bakeries Brooklyn, N.Y.
__________________________________________
Rowland/ Ronald Brown Age ?? Auditor, Brown Brothers Harriman Co. Wall street N.Y.
__________________________________________
Arther B. Smith Age ?? Department Head Brown Brothers Harriman Co. Wall streetBrooklyn N.Y.
________________________________________
Frank Campi Age ??San Jose, California
________________________________________-
Henry L. Jackson Age ?? Fashion Editor : Collier's Magazine, Field & Stream, fashion editor "Mens Reporter" Founder ESQUIRE Magazine White Plains, N.Y.
________________________________________
Walter A. Kendall Age 50 Head of Store Planning
W.T. Grant Co. Scarsdale,N.Y.
__________________________________________
David Marcus Age ?? President Golden Edge Fabrics Co. Ill. Jamaica, Queens,N.Y.
__________________________________________
Joy Marcus Age ?? Wife of David Marcus Jamaica, Queens,N.Y.
________________________________________
Mrs. L.O. Weiser (Rita) Age ?? Chicago,Illinois
__________________________________________
A. Stewart Angus Age 50 Attorney Texas Oil San Francisco , Calif.
__________________________________________
Anthony G. De Vito Age 38 Fred Bear Company Brooklyn, N.Y.
________________________________________
Hans Joachim Age ?? American Transul Co. S.F. Calif San Fransisco , Calif.
_______________________________________
Rudolpf G. Harvey or R. Harvey Palmer Age ??
Associate Recotron Corp. New York City
________________________________________
H.L. Slater Age ?? Cardinal Electronics Corp. New York City
_____________________________________-
Miss Kay Thorpe AGE 15 Daughter of Bud Thorpe, N.B.C. Chicago Staff Announcer Omaha. Nebraska
____________________________________
E. Hinchliff or Hanchliff age ?? Vice Pres. Burson Knitting Mills Rockford, Ill.
__________________________________-
George W. Rogers Age 33 Sales Mgr. Fountain Supplies, Lamont Corliss & Co. New York City
__________________________________
Yves Le Corre Age ?? Doctor, Paris France
_________________________________
Thomas J. Gallagher Age 27 Trucking & warehouse firm official  Bryn Mawr, PA
________________________________
Lawrence Dieringer Age ?? Vice Pres. L.K. Comstock Electric New York Dumont N.J.
_________________________________
R.B. Stewart Age ?? L.K. Comstock Electric New York N.Y.
________________________________
Nathan V. Pessin Age 53 Market Executive Los Angeles, calif
________________________________--
George H.M. Harries Age 37 Secretary & assistant Treasurer Bally Ribbon Mills Inc. Boyertown , PA
______________________________--
Betty L. Harries Age 32 Wife of George Boyertown , PA
_________________________________
Remo Bufano Age 54 Actor, Puppeteer, Marionette Producer New York City
________________________________
William Casmer (Cosmer) Age ?? New York City
_____________________________
Albert W. Stempel Age ?? Stratford , Connecticut
___________________________
Paul March (Marchi) Age 32  Sacramento, Calif.
__________________________
Toni Marcus (INFANT)  AGE 8 Months Daughter of David & Joy Marcus
Jamaica, Queens, New York
__________________________
the Weiser Infant Age ?? Chicago, Illinois
________________________

I know this is an old post..but...it's so sad to know that these kinds of accidents happen...but becomes very poignant (sp) when names are put with the incident....
Wow.

What a good read, I wish you would of taken the property owner up on digging up the wreckage, who knows what got cought up in the bulldozer debris, rings, diamonds, $250000 wrapped up?

those are some awesome finds....

Schuyler v. United Air Lines, 94 F.Supp. 472 (M.D. Pa., 1950)

94 F.Supp. 472


SCHUYLER
v.
UNITED AIR LINES, Inc.


Civ. No. 3304.


United States District Court M. D. Pennsylvania.


December 18, 1950.

Page 473

Ralph P. Needle and Needle, Needle & Needle, all of Scranton, Pa., Guy E. Ward, Beverly Hills, Cal., Douglas N. Sharretts, Baltimore, Md., for plaintiff.

Eugene Nogi and Nogi, O'Malley & Harris, all of Scranton, Pa., Owen B. Rhoads, Arthur E. Newbold, III, and Barnes, Dechert, Price, Myers & Clark, all of Philadelphia, Pa., and David L. Corbin, New York City, for defendant.

WATSON, Chief Judge.

This is a suit by Jessie I. Schuyler, Ancillary Executrix of the Estate of Earl Carroll, deceased, Plaintiff, against the United Air Lines, Inc., Defendant, under the Pennsylvania "Survival" Statute1 for damages for the death of Earl Carroll, who was killed instantly when Defendant's Douglas DC-6 Aircraft No. NC-37506 on which he was a passenger crashed near Mt. Carmel, Pennsylvania, about 12:41 P.M., on June 17, 1948. The case was tried before the Court and a jury. The jury returned a verdict in favor of the Defendant.

The case is now before the Court on Plaintiff's Motion to set aside the verdict and judgment entered thereon, and for a new trial. At the oral argument on the Motion, counsel for Plaintiff urged only one reason as ground for granting the motion, although other reasons stated in the written motion were not withdrawn. The reason urged was that the Court committed prejudicial error in connection with questions concerning certain documents, and photostatic copies thereof, referred to throughout the trial as the "Zell Report".

After this case was set for trial to begin April 3, 1950, counsel for Plaintiff presented to the Court, on March 31, 1950, a Motion for Production of Documents, etc., under Rule 34 of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.2 The Motion contained requests in twenty-nine separate paragraphs for documents of various descriptions, including a request in paragraph 22 for "Copy of report by Mr. Louis Zell, Chief of Communications, United Air Lines, pertaining

Page 474

to interpretation of recordings of radio contact between Flight 624 United Air Lines, June 16-17, 1948, between the hours of 12:30 E.S.T., and 12:45 E.S.T., June 17, 1948." On April 3, 1950, a jury was sworn to try the case, and on April 4, 1950, and April 5, 1950, an argument was held in Chambers on Plaintiff's Motion for Production of Documents, etc. On April 5, 1950, Opinion and Order3 were filed by this Court granting in part and denying in part Plaintiff's Motion for Production of Documents, etc. This Opinion, in referring to paragraph 22 of Plaintiff's Motion, stated: "It appears that, as to requests for production referred to in Paragraphs * * * 22 * * * the defendant does not have same in its possession, custody or control, and, therefore, the motion for the production of the documents, papers, books, etc., referred...



https://www.fastcase.com/Google/Sta...46a7f60bc5c458ee7fd151fe9e944e12e2d
 

Intresting !

Thought I seen it all.
I never knew about that

thanks Peerless67

What a great thread and very interesting read. That being said, it must have been a very strange and weird feeling to be right on that site.

Wow.  That is an amzaing story. 

Congrats are in order!

xoxo

wow what history!!!!

This is really what treasure hunting is all about. The families will appreciate the recovery of their relatives articles. People lost their lives there.....to me that makes their items sacred. They are so much more than just treasure. I very much enjoyed this story... it is history....something that really happened. Wish I would have read about it sooner.

wow all i can say........   

I'm glad this topic came back up to the top.  This is an amazing story of not only a tragic event but of the HUGE efforts put forth by two members to go out there and resurrect pieces of the day.  Jeff, I will never forget the day you came and showed me the ring and teeth.  I never told you, but that was the day that I KNEW I would one day follow in your shoes as a treasure hunter, LOL.  I wish I had gotten into the hobby earlier in life, but I'm glad I have now started.  Thanks for that and thanks for sharing the story with everyone and all your kind acts to those involved.  It shows the people who don't know you personally how good of a person you really are 

Amazing story! It's great that you maintained the persistience and patience to research and dig this site for some amazing finds. This story only furthers my own resolve and diligence with MDing.

And, to top it off, I now know where jeff_of_pa's avatar comes from!

Great work and I look forward reading more updates and pondering more pieces of information puzzle.

Wow!!! Great post!!!

I read up on this flight. My understanding is that, essentially, the pilots asphyxiated themselves by missing a step in operating the fire suppression system on the plane. Probably, a contributing cause was the low time the captain had in the DC-6. Really, both pilots were relatively low time in that aircraft.

Sad that a simple mistake could lead to such tragedy, as the plane was never on fire and in perfect operating condition before being flown into the side of the mountain.

Awesome posts guys... Super finds! The teeth are a little eerie knowing they were from the crash but still... What a find!

Simply amazing is all I can add 

 

I wasn't around in 2005 when this was first posted now I see were your Avarter comes from I was wondering did you make the Banner with this post The history here and the story of the recovery finds made by yourself and buddy...well I haven't read the whole post yet, but I am going to

I might be lucky to dig Ancient coins here, but I would have given my hind teeth to have been there with you guys. I will proberly post again later, after reading the whole thread

SS

I wasn't around in 2005 when this was first posted now I see were your Avarter comes from I was wondering did you make the Banner with this post The history here and the story of the recovery finds made by yourself and buddy...well I haven't read the whole post yet, but I am going to

I might be lucky to dig Ancient coins here, but I would have given my hind teeth to have been there with you guys. I will proberly post again later, after reading the whole thread

SS

Thanks 

There was no banner in 2005
& if there was It wouldn't have Qualified.

we  made  the Finds in 2003 & 2004.

I Made the Post in Best Finds & It ended up here  


I Actually waited till We were done with the site,
& our permissions were No longer possable,
Before deciding on making a post.


Didn't want a Mad rush of hunters.

The Owners were Nice enough to give us
Exclusive Permission.

I know this post has been idle for awhile, but I just learned of the crash this summer when I lost my father. His father, Walter Kendall, was a passenger on this flight and I have found this thread very informative. Can you tell me if there are still remnants at the site? I would like to visit the site next summer.

There is Not Much you Can see anymore.

There are Remains of The Transformer the Plane hit,
& The Pole Line on the Embankment The Plane
Crashed Into are Viewable, Within the woods.

The Site is Heavily Posted, and there was always
somone Sitting in a Vehicle at the Dirt road in,
Counting trucks.

   They were always Friendly, But it's been a good many
years now. I Doubt they are the same crew.
I Doubt you would have A problem with Being alowed
on To check it out Though.

Thank you Jeff.

Great thread and pics!

All the best,

Lanny

if you need to help to clean the area, I am your man ..... I take but 50 %....  is a joke