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Colonial, PA
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Hey, dudes, Paco and I got out to the farm today. Before we even started detecting, we decided to present the kind landowners with a gift. We presented to them a $20 gift certificate to a local restaurant....our exact words, "Enjoy a dinner on us! Thank you for being so kind to allow us to relic hunt on your property." After a further cordial dialogue, Barb had to go to church, Carl needed to feed the oinkers, and we had to do some DETECTING! hehehe
At first, we decided to relic hunt the knoll where my Flying Eagle was recovered. We detected for about 45 minutes with nothing to show for, when I heard, Paco, yell, "Large copper! 1850 cent" In an athletic fashion, I sprinted to my good bud and shook hands with him in an excited fashion, "Good job, dude! You are even good with that junky Classic ID." After further "congratulations" on my part, we detected a little more with zero signals. I stated, "Dude, how about we explore more fields on there property!" So, we ventured our way, walking like a couple of baboons through a cow pasture. A few times during our pasture detecting, we had a few cows charging at us....each time one did, I sprinted, with my detector in hand, away from the furious animal (I think I was giggling, too). With my speed, these cows had no chance in hell to catch me alive. hehehe After about an hour of exploring, I stated, "Dude, these fields are unproductive...for some reason, my "thing" is pointing me to that field...I pointed to the Colonial coin cornfield" hehehe
So, we started to venture our way towards my car to take a break. On several occasions, we had to leap over electric fences...we made it look easy....I just took one step and jumped straight over it and rolled on the ground...thank god for my athletic abilities and my detecting abilities. hehehe On our break, I pointed to the Colonial field again and stated, "We are foos (fools) if we think dat area is devoid of coins!" Foos, I say!"
After the break, we visited the field...after an hour with no sigs, I started to detect my way towards the area where we found the Colonial coins. During that unproductive hour, I, literally, was cursing out loud...thank god the landowners were about two hundred yards away. hehehe Then, I was walking up a row, acting dejected, when I got a reading that brought me to attention. In my mind, I was thinking, "Hmmm...could it be? Hmmm...would it be? Hmmm...it better be, or I'm a quittin'!" Well, the target was giving me a jumpy, but decent copper reading...it pinpointed at 3", so I dug down and there was a large, green disc in the hole. I picked it up, rubbed some dirt off, and saw Mr. Washington's mug....I, literally, yelled, "Holy sh*t! BOO-YA" I knew how rare of a coin this was. I ran to, Paco, who was about a hundred yards away..."Dude, you are going make your pants smelly...check this dude out!" It is a 1793 George Washington Halfpenny. Our happy dance this time was...the jovial gibbons dance. hahaha
Our day ended after that. Once again, it was another memorable day on some historic property.
In the red book, it is stated to be worth $220 in Fine condition and $800 in XF....I am guessing mine is worth around $500...it is the best-shaped Colonial our entire group has dug. Zoy stated, "Find of the year, so far, in our group!" I love this hobby!
*All relics were found on private property with total consent from the landowners.
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Posts: 249
Lima, Ohio Coshocton, Ohio
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Reply To This Topic #1 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 11:29:10 AM |
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AWESOME!!!! You guys are finding some great stuff at that site.WTG!! HH Alan
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Semper Fi! Posts: 2220
Indiana
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Reply To This Topic #2 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 11:38:03 AM |
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Not sure I understand the language, but what a great find!! Great shape, and worth the cows chasing you!!
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Posts: 4084
Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #3 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 11:41:28 AM |
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Not sure I understand the language, but what a great find!! Great shape, and worth the cows chasing you!!
If you are around me enough, you will understand the "Dude" language. hehehe |
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Posts: 3036
Austin, TX
Detector used: Whites Eagle Spectrum, Compass X-100, Whites Beach Hunter ID, 2 Whites Spectrum XLT's
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Reply To This Topic #4 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 11:41:41 AM |
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Now that is a nice coin! Way to go, and don't do any cow tipping while you're out there.
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It's better to be thought a fool, then open your mouth and remove all doubt.
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mid-missouri
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Reply To This Topic #5 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 11:43:08 AM |
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WTg!! bud AWSOME find!!!!!! i love it!!!!!!!!!
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Central Illinois
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Reply To This Topic #6 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 11:44:45 AM |
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Amazing find Kirk! Also a very nice gesture to buy the man`s dinner. I`d hit that place again for sure. WTG HH
Coinman66
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Western Colorado
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Reply To This Topic #7 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 11:46:44 AM |
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DON'T CLEAN THAT COIN!!
Way to go DUDE!!
Another one for the Banner
WOW
I said that right didn't I??
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Not everyone who wanders is lost
"Know Guns, Know Freedom.
No Guns, No Freedom."
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Posts: 4084
Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #8 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 11:54:43 AM |
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Thanks, guys, for the replies. I am still floating on Cloud Nine! hahaha
Paco has one heck of a site! It keeps on producing!
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Reply To This Topic #9 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 11:58:14 AM |
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Amazing! And the coin is interesting too.
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Silver farm: wheats 478, Indians 1, Buffs 21, V nickel 1, War nickels 10, Barber dimes 3, Mercs 34, Roseys 41, Canadian Ed VI dime 1, Barber quarters 2, Washington quarters 20, Walking Liberty Halves 7, Pittsburgh Railways tokens 10, 10K class ring
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Posts: 4084
Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #10 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 12:00:14 PM |
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Very nice token!
Is that the plain edge or lettered edge?
Oh, it is the Lettered edge. |
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Western Colorado
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Reply To This Topic #11 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 12:09:12 PM |
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Kirk,
Of course it's lettered on the edge.
The US didn't reed the edges of coins until 1836.
OD
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Not everyone who wanders is lost
"Know Guns, Know Freedom.
No Guns, No Freedom."
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beep beep. Posts: 1826
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Reply To This Topic #12 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 12:12:03 PM |
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Sweet, sweet, find. I don't know about the rest of that BS, but I love the coin.
You mean to say those fields aren't planted in corn or beans? All pasture?
I've got a field I can't wait to hunt when the crops come down. Just a couple hundred yards from an old fort. Hoping for some oldies.
HH
Ken
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Posts: 4084
Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #13 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 12:14:10 PM |
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The area where I found the coin is planted with corn. It is tough to do, but it is well worth it. ;)
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North Carolina
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Reply To This Topic #14 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 12:15:42 PM |
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Looks pretty to me > great find  |
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Shamokin, PA
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Reply To This Topic #15 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 12:16:42 PM |
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BOOOOO YAAAAAA back to ya. Congratulations on a great find. Had to check the 2007 Redbook A Guide Book of US Coins, page 79
1793 Ship Halfpenny, Lettered Adge:
Fine $220
VF $450
EF $800
AU $1300
UNC $3000
PS: There is a plain edge too. (rare) If yours was a plain edge, the sky's the limit on the price.........Rich
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Reply To This Topic #16 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 12:20:47 PM |
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Holy crap Kirk... awesome freakin find! You SHOULD be floating on cloud nine! Great story and pics... |
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Reply To This Topic #17 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 12:23:16 PM |
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Kirk,
Of course it's lettered on the edge.
The US didn't reed the edges of coins until 1836.
OD
Um..it isn't a US coin ;) Two versions of this Token was made. One plain edge and one that said: "PAYABLE IN ANGLELSEY, LONDON, OR LIVERPOOL" 1793 WASHINGTON PORTRAIT SHIP HALFPENNY LETTERED EDGE. the prices listed are a lot lower than in kirks redbook though. although they are supposed to be prices a dealer might offer you. in the blue book it says $35 VG,$110 F,250VF,450EF,$700AU and $1650 UNC. way to go Kirk!! |
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PA
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Reply To This Topic #18 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 12:36:50 PM |
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I wrote this coin on my 2007 wish list, but it wasn't me who found it!  hehehe So, Kirkie Jerkie, you better hand it over or I will put you in the "cross-faced chicken wing" until you cough it up!  hehe |
Those early PA settlers did too much  and that is why coppas are found in abundance!
The Three Datectateers will  miles to find the Colonial "stuff"! 
KirkKyleChris (KKC)  and  to those long-forgotten, coppa-dropping settlers!
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ENGLAND
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Reply To This Topic #19 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 12:47:00 PM |
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Now you found a coin I would be happy to find  Nice work! |
TOO BUSY TO DETECT, YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!
'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' - me 25/06/08
A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds
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Reply To This Topic #20 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 12:52:09 PM |
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Nice Find and thanks for a great story!!!!!!!!! I would have stunk my pants if i found that coin.  |
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Posts: 4084
Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #21 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 01:16:22 PM |
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Thanks, dudes, I am glad you enjoyed my story. I now have 5 Colonials for the year. The year is still young, too! |
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Posts: 7788
North Carolina
Detector used: Tesoro Silver Umax w/9x8 DD coil; Tesoro Silver Umax w/stock 8" coil, Vibra Probe 570
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Reply To This Topic #22 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 01:30:02 PM |
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Kirk, You guy are "milking" that property for all it's worth. What a fantastic find! Congrats to you Mighty Whitey Dude! Also, thanks for another funny post. I LMAO when I read the...."Dude, you are going to make your pants smelly"... quote. Classic. Save some of those finds for Zoy too. We don't want to read about you been done in by a "crossed face chicken wing".  Great job, MM |
Oldest coin = 1700's Spanish silver piece of 8 reale
Oldest U.S. silver = 1833 Capped Bust Half Dime
Rarest coin = 1864 "L" *double die* IH
Civil War best finds:
*NC belt buckle
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Posts: 4084
Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #23 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 01:33:40 PM |
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Kirk, You guy are "milking" that property for all it's worth. What a fantastic find! Congrats to you Mighty Whitey Dude! Also, thanks for another funny post. I LMAO when I read the...."Dude, you are going to make your pants smelly"... quote. Classic. Save some of those finds for Zoy too. We don't want to read about you been done in by a "crossed face chicken wing". Great job, MM Thanks, MM, I just love to bring our adventures to life. What you read, is what happened, seriously. This has to be the best hobby in the world...also, spending time with a good friend makes it even better. The memories will always be there! Thanks, bud, for the kind words. Oh, the "crossed face chicken wing" hasn't happened yet. Maybe I should "cross face" his machine! hahaha |
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North Carolina
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Reply To This Topic #24 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 01:37:11 PM |
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You guys crack me up! I bet it's a blast hunting with your group. Great job, MM |
Oldest coin = 1700's Spanish silver piece of 8 reale
Oldest U.S. silver = 1833 Capped Bust Half Dime
Rarest coin = 1864 "L" *double die* IH
Civil War best finds:
*NC belt buckle
*CSN Confederate Navy Officer button
*Eagle Sword Belt Plate
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Reply To This Topic #25 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 01:40:17 PM |
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That's a beautiful find man.
I love them colonial sites. First one I have seen. Thank god it held up over the years. Every now and then you get lucky and the good one comes up in nice soil.
HH Jer
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Reply To This Topic #26 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 01:53:59 PM |
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YO KIRK,
THIS IS PACO, YOU SURE KNOW HOW TO SNIFF OUT THOSE COLONIALS............SO SWEET......CAN`T WAIT TO HIT AGAIN......
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Reply To This Topic #27 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 02:02:35 PM |
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Most excellent!
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Posts: 4084
Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #28 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 02:11:05 PM |
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YO KIRK,
THIS IS PACO, YOU SURE KNOW HOW TO SNIFF OUT THOSE COLONIALS............SO SWEET......CAN`T WAIT TO HIT AGAIN......
Thanks, Paco, it is about time you showed your professional abilities on the forum. I, along with many others, welcome you here with open arms. Dude, if it wasn't for your great research, my coin would still be in the ground. You are great at sniffing out the Colonial sites, dude. We must hit it again! |
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Posts: 4084
Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #29 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 02:12:55 PM |
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You guys crack me up! I bet it's a blast hunting with your group. Great job, MM That is what it is all about: Having Fun! If it ain't fun, I am done! hehehe I hope you find some wilver in the future, bud. Out hunt, Ridley! That's a beautiful find man.
I love them colonial sites. First one I have seen. Thank god it held up over the years. Every now and then you get lucky and the good one comes up in nice soil.
HH Jer
Not to sound haughty, but this is the 1st I have seen on here, too. Actually, I think "TimmyNY" found a 1795 at a foundation. But, other than that, I haven't seen any. They must not have been circulated as much, or the dudes didn't lose them often. It is about the size of a half dollar. I almost sh*t myself when the green disc popped out. Ahhhh, the sight of coppa! hahaha |
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MINELAB SOVEREIGN USER Posts: 18777
JOLIETT Pennsylvania
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Reply To This Topic #31 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 02:56:21 PM |
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Very nice Kirk
Congrats !
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"Half of writing history is hiding the truth"
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PA
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Reply To This Topic #32 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 03:06:06 PM |
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A "crossfaced chicken wing" will be carried out on your detector, which is sleeping in the closet at this moment! In all seriousness, Kirkie Poo, this coin, in memories alone, paid for your detector. One professional doyboy sweep...one professional doyboy pinpoint...one professional doyboy dig...and one professional doyboy non-deck of a semi-rare halfpenny!  Welcome to the banner, Jerkie! You definitely deserve it, Poo! |
Those early PA settlers did too much and that is why coppas are found in abundance!
The Three Datectateers will miles to find the Colonial "stuff"!
KirkKyleChris (KKC) and to those long-forgotten, coppa-dropping settlers!
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Central Illinois
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Reply To This Topic #33 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 04:46:16 PM |
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Brotherly love. Put him in the Saturday night special. On a Sunday!
Again nice find.
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Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #34 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 04:53:56 PM |
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A "crossfaced chicken wing" will be carried out on your detector, which is sleeping in the closet at this moment! In all seriousness, Kirkie Poo, this coin, in memories alone, paid for your detector. One professional doyboy sweep...one professional doyboy pinpoint...one professional doyboy dig...and one professional doyboy non-deck of a semi-rare halfpenny! Welcome to the banner, Jerkie! You definitely deserve it, Poo! Zoy, hmmm....where is my detector at this very minute? She ain't in the closet! I am definitely worried for her safety! hehehe An uppercut will be presented to the housing of your tector tonight. That should do her in for the year! hehehe I know my detector was paid for. Yes, I aim to be a professional. hehehe I take great pride in my proper form and pinpointing. I don't know nobody that don't think the same. Wow, a triple negative. |
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Texas
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Reply To This Topic #35 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 04:54:21 PM |
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Welcome Paco I was begining to think Kirk had a imaginary friend, Great coin Kirk funny I was just reading about those, Damn you made the Banner in less than 8 hrs, Way to Grow
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I dont have time to spell check!
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Reply To This Topic #36 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 04:58:59 PM |
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That's one fine fine coin master Kirk!
Big time congrats to you my friend.
The history behind this coin is amazing, just thinking,
the War of Independance had just ended and our country
was just beginning. Freekin amazing man!!
WTG making the banner too dude!
Smiles!
BDoo
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Posts: 4084
Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #37 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 05:06:08 PM |
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That's one fine fine coin master Kirk!
Big time congrats to you my friend.
The history behind this coin is amazing, just thinking,
the War of Independance had just ended and our country
was just beginning. Freekin amazing man!!
WTG making the banner too dude!
Smiles!
BDoo
Thanks, Bdoo, my goal this year was to make it up there. The history behind that coin is amazing. It was minted in England...indubitably, kind sir. hahaha |
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Michigan
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Reply To This Topic #38 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 05:50:19 PM |
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Wow! Let me get this straight. I looked it up in the 2008 Red Book. It's a U.S. coin that was minted in England??
I wonder if I'll ever find even a Large Cent. My state is too young..
Congrats to you and your partners. Outstanding coin.
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Somewhere over the rainbow...oh wait, that was Kermit...just here!
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Reply To This Topic #39 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 05:52:22 PM |
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Outstanding! In great condition too! A real highlight to an md portfolio!
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AUT VIAM INVENIAM AUT FACIAM
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North Carolina
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Reply To This Topic #40 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 05:53:56 PM |
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Wow you got up in the thumbnails pretty quick with this one ! Congrats !
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A wise old owl lived in an oak
The more he saw the less he spoke
The less he spoke the more he heard.
Why can't we all be like that wise old bird?
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Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #41 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 05:58:33 PM |
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I am still waiting until, Don in SJ, responds. He really know his Colonials, so he may be able to estimate the value.
Seriously, dudes, how much do you think it would sell for?
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Reply To This Topic #42 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 05:58:58 PM |
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Facilitator of Happiness Posts: 554
East Greenbush NY
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Reply To This Topic #43 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 06:01:25 PM |
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Dude...dude dude...DUDE dudes dudey dude like dude...Holy DUDE....DuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuDe
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South Louisiana
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Reply To This Topic #44 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 06:34:03 PM |
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You Da Man!! A picture of the area with a street sign would be nice. 
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RENSSELAER, NY
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Reply To This Topic #45 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 06:49:38 PM |
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I think George Washington's middle name was Dude.....GREAT FIND.!!
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Todd's Mill, NJ
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Reply To This Topic #46 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 06:49:43 PM |
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Great find!!
WTG!
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North Carolina
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Reply To This Topic #47 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 06:56:03 PM |
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The colonial dude that dropped it would probably state that he'd be proud of the master coin hunting future dude that found it!
George Washington would probably be amused too!
Here's a virtual happy congratulatory type hand shake! Looks like the coin made the banner already!
Great job! Dude!
Ridley
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Wisconsin
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Reply To This Topic #48 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 07:00:29 PM |
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Awesome find! I wish we had stuff that old here.
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Posts: 4084
Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #49 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 08:30:18 PM |
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The colonial dude that dropped it would probably state that he'd be proud of the master coin hunting future dude that found it!
George Washington would probably be amused too!
Here's a virtual happy congratulatory type hand shake! Looks like the coin made the banner already!
Great job! Dude!
Ridley
Thanks to my awesome detecting skills....hahaha....it was all luck! I hope to find some old wilver there next! |
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Reply To This Topic #50 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 08:34:20 PM |
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Nice Banner find kirk! Awesome!
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Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #51 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 08:36:31 PM |
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Nice Banner find kirk! Awesome!
Congrats yourself for being up there! |
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Long Island, New York
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Reply To This Topic #52 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 08:40:11 PM |
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THAT'S A FIND TO BE REAL PROUD OF! EXCELLENT DIG! WTG! TO PUT A NEW TWIST ON AN OLD PHRASE - ONCE YOU GO COLONIAL YOU NEVER GO BACK!
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I DugIt Posts: 331
Pacific NW
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Reply To This Topic #53 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 09:11:27 PM |
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Amazing find lad! I'd take a tent and a porta potty to that site and live on it the rest of the year :)What History your unconering Did you show it to the Landlords if so what did they think?
HH
Blue
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Reply To This Topic #54 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 09:22:29 PM |
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Dude Kirk ! All I can say is , you are the MAN dude ! Congrats ! Hoss
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" Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it " Geroge Santayana . American philosopher . 1863-1953 . From " Life of Reason " Which it seems to me we have a abandoned . Hoss
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Have ya ever heard of the great Thomas Baldingboy Posts: 1514
Southeast Missouri
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Reply To This Topic #55 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 09:34:58 PM |
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Super finds! Hammer the heck out of that place. What an awesome coin!
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Portland, OR
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Reply To This Topic #56 Posted Jul 29, 2007, 10:02:58 PM |
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WTG!!! Nice coin Dude! I would send in off to be graded. If not for the value, but the protection of this find. It will come back with a net grade because it is a dug coin, however it is a very, very, very nice find!
WTG
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Posts: 2022
East Central Florida
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Reply To This Topic #57 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 12:58:41 AM |
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Very nice find. Congrtulations on you find and having it posted in front row ( Thumb Nail Gallery) aka " RECENT TREASURES FOUND BY OUR MEMBERS" One of my hopes is to find something that is deemed worthy enough to be put in the front row. Until, then, HH. Ray S. |
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Loudoun County Virginia
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Reply To This Topic #58 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 01:50:03 AM |
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Nice Digs!!
man.. your postings crack me up... it's like.. "Bills and Ted's Excellent Metal Detecting" That was a good idea with the gift certificate... the best I ever did.. was stop to ask permission and ended up helping the land owners herd in a couple hundred head that were in the wrong field. The guy was really.. angry.. seems one of his helpers had left the wrong gate open the night before and the herd went into a field full of crops. After we got them in, he was still pretty mad.. so I was just going to leave and come back.. when he said.. "..and what did you need feller?" Turned out to be one of the best places I ever dug.. and he and his wife never gave anyone else permission but me!! I actually had another guy, after trying to get permission, stop along the road and yell at me!! He was pis.. er.. angry.. that that would not give him permission when I was out digging! It's all about the karma...
MonkeyBoy
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Posts: 1537
PA
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Reply To This Topic #59 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 03:01:45 AM |
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Kirkie, I agree that this should be slabbed. |
Those early PA settlers did too much and that is why coppas are found in abundance!
The Three Datectateers will miles to find the Colonial "stuff"!
KirkKyleChris (KKC) and to those long-forgotten, coppa-dropping settlers!
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Posts: 4025
Massachusetts
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Reply To This Topic #60 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 03:09:47 AM |
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keenest hobby ever
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Reply To This Topic #61 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 03:45:20 AM |
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Looks like one of those coins Zoyboy bought off E-Bay.
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Detector used: Garrett GTI 1500 w/Sunray Probe ---Tesoro De Leon
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Reply To This Topic #62 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 03:56:10 AM |
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Outstanding
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In the academies many books, at the circus many sacks of peanuts, at the club rooms many cigar butts.
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Posts: 4084
Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #63 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 04:19:10 AM |
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Looks like one of those coins Zoyboy bought off E-Bay.
It is nice, ain't it, unc? |
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Reply To This Topic #64 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 04:22:57 AM |
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I am still waiting until, Don in SJ, responds. He really know his Colonials, so he may be able to estimate the value.
Seriously, dudes, how much do you think it would sell for?
Very Nice find Kirk, I will send you a PM today Don |
"The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
The value will increase with judicious cleaning."
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Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #65 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 04:26:55 AM |
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I am still waiting until, Don in SJ, responds. He really know his Colonials, so he may be able to estimate the value.
Seriously, dudes, how much do you think it would sell for?
Very Nice find Kirk, I will send you a PM today Don Sounds good, Don. I am curious to hear what you have to say about it. I am still floating on the Ninth cloud now. hahaha |
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Reply To This Topic #66 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 04:34:16 AM |
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I have seen most sold in auctions listed as 1793/2 for the date, but only a few have the 2 still visible, the rest like yours do not, but it would still be considered an overdate since all of that type was made from a recut 1792 die. Here are some excerpts from the Notre Dame website on Washington Tokens It was the Ship Halfpenny of 1793 (Baker 18, Fuld, WA.1793/2.1) that gave the Hancock obverse portrait of Washington its widest circulation. The date was originally cut into the die as 1792 but was changed to 1793 before being used. Apparently the dies clashed early in use. The resulted in a buckeling of the dies, evident as a bulge on the coin between 3:00 and 5:00 o'clock on the obverse. Only five extant examples are reported that are in perfect condition without the bulge. Breen states the overdate can only be seen on these five examples as it is not apparent on examples from after the die clash. I will send you some information I gathered last night on value and let you decipher it. Don |
"The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
The value will increase with judicious cleaning."
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Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #67 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 04:38:17 AM |
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I have seen most sold in auctions listed as 1793/2 for the date, but only a few have the 2 still visible, the rest like yours do not, but it would still be considered an overdate since all of that type was made from a recut 1792 die. Here are some excerpts from the Notre Dame website on Washington Tokens It was the Ship Halfpenny of 1793 (Baker 18, Fuld, WA.1793/2.1) that gave the Hancock obverse portrait of Washington its widest circulation. The date was originally cut into the die as 1792 but was changed to 1793 before being used. Apparently the dies clashed early in use. The resulted in a buckeling of the dies, evident as a bulge on the coin between 3:00 and 5:00 o'clock on the obverse. Only five extant examples are reported that are in perfect condition without the bulge. Breen states the overdate can only be seen on these five examples as it is not apparent on examples from after the die clash. I will send you some information I gathered last night on value and let you decipher it. Don Thanks, Don, for the help. I appreciate it, bud. |
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east northport ny
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Reply To This Topic #68 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 04:57:40 AM |
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damn kirk that is awesome you guys are digging some great stuff congrats and hh
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Posts: 4084
Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #69 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 05:02:18 AM |
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damn kirk that is awesome you guys are digging some great stuff congrats and hh
We are digging some great stuff, thanks to the kind landowners! |
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Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #70 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 05:04:13 AM |
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Dudes, I will take some pics of the lettered edge tonight. There are some nice details!
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Reply To This Topic #71 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 05:21:03 AM |
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Dudes, I will take some pics of the lettered edge tonight. There are some nice details!
I have two ways of photographing lettered edges, the easiest was taking about 4 or 5 of them as you go around and stitch together either with a stiching program or Irfanview. The other method is tougher, that is using a mag light reflector and shoot a photo of the coin and the edges at the same time, but I believe the lettering than comes out in reverse, not sure, have to check my archives. Here is the lettered edge photos on my rare variety 1794 Large Cent. Don |
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"The mantra has always been don't clean a (copper) coin or it will lose value.
For undug coins this is true. For dug coins this is untrue.
The value will increase with judicious cleaning."
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"IT AIN'T ROCKET SCIENCE" Posts: 2392
HUMBLE, TEXAS
Detector used: WHITES M6 / DX1 / BLACK WIDOWS
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Reply To This Topic #72 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 05:33:33 AM |
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Super Excelletnt Washington coin bud...
Keep diggin'...
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"WHERE'S MY FLYING CAR THEY PROMISED ME?"
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Posts: 4084
Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #73 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 05:36:32 AM |
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I think the wet soil helped make this coin more evident. It was in an area we all hit before, but the soil was too dry.
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Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #74 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 07:39:05 AM |
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Dudes, here is some info I got from, Don in SJ. Thanks again, bud, for the help. It is some great information on my coin. Kirk, very nice find for sure, have not seen but maybe one or two others found posted on any of the forums over the many years I have been watching, However, I was not sure of how common or rare they are, evidently they are not too common. There are at least around 60 known by PCGS, which makes the coin a R5 and maybe R4. I will show the Rarity Scale below. With that said, I looked through my catalogs and found two sold somwhat recently by the C4 auction, which is held each fall in Boston and they are not ground found, and as you can judge for youself to compare with yours, Unfortuntely we get penalized heavily for the corrosion, unless they are in competive demand. I sent the photos to a freind who is a Colonial collector and some Federal area coins and this was his response: Don, This is so cool - finding a Washington Ship Halfpenny!!! I have one. Actually I'm giving a talk (two talks) at the Ocean County Coin Club this Thursday night about Washingtonia! I don't know if NCS would do anything with a metal detecting find. If this were my find, I'd probably send it to you and ask if you would do your Hydrogen Peroxide treatment. I'd settle for whatever the results were. People that collect Washington coins and medals are looking for quality and surfaces. I don't think that he'll increase the value of the coin much by attempting to clean it. http://home.comcast.net/~slospokes2/C4_Nov_2004.jpg SOLD For $275, VF20 No Corrosion http://home.comcast.net/~slospokes2/C4_Nov_2005.jpg SOLD For $325 VF30 No Corrosion http://www.stacks.com/lotdetail.aspx?lrid=AN00060421 SOLD For $1035 EF45 No Corrsoion and in Superb condition 1793 Washington Ship Halfpenny VF 30 First Token. Baker-18. Weight: 10.33 grams. Even brown color with pleasing surfaces and no noticeable marks. SOLD For $286 in 1996 NO PHOTO AVAILABLE - HERITAGE AUCTIONS So, my opinion, a good find, a special coin to keep and have great braggin rights on, but for being very valuable, nada. My guess, and it is only a guess and I would not post this, is maybe $200 but also maybe only $50-75..... Of course on e-bay, funny things can happen and it could go for more. Right now on e-bay is a slabbed one that is one of the best known, no bids yet. Item number: 170133006998 When I said the number approx 60 known by PCGS, that does not mean there are only 60, I believe that means there have been X amount graded, other examples are most likely known. OK here is a Rarity Scale that is somewhat considered a standard, although there is a "Univieral rarity scale" developed in 1998, but I have not seen those numbers used! But this seems to be used alot by collectors. R8+ 1 KNOWN R8 2 KNOWN R8 - Unique or Nearly So R8- 3 KNOWN R7+ 4-6 KNOWN R7 7-9 KNOWN R7 - Extremely Rare R7- 10-12 KNOWN R6+ 13-18 KNOWN R6 19-24 KNOWN R6 - Very Rare R6- 25-30 KNOWN R5+ 31-45 ESTIMATED R5 46-60 ESTIMATED R5 - Rare R5- 61-75 ESTIMATED R4 76-200 ESTIMATED R4 - Very Scarce R3 201-600 ESTIMATED R3 - Scarce R2 601-2000 ESTIMATED R2 - Common R1 OVER 2000 ESTIMATED R1 - Very Common REFERENCE: William C. Noyes, author of United States Large Cents books. I would save this for background knowledge I almost posted this, except I would have left out my value opinion, it is a very judgemental thing, also not sure how to grade your coin, again, since photos are hard to see sometimes all the details or damage, so I will pass on that and just stay with my rough guess opinion on value. Even the photos on the C4 auction pages are rather hard to determine detail, but the one that sold for over a grand on STACKS site, WOW, what a pretty coin and great color photo!! Don PS Rarity does not always equate into value, example would be the 1916D Mercury Dime, heck they minted 264,000 of them, that makes them Very Common, but there are so many collectors out there that the demand for that coin is great and thus they are valuable. Value has all to do with supply and demand in coins. |
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PA
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Reply To This Topic #75 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 07:40:25 AM |
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This farm should yield at least 20 coppers when the four detect-o-teers are finally done with it! |
Those early PA settlers did too much and that is why coppas are found in abundance!
The Three Datectateers will miles to find the Colonial "stuff"!
KirkKyleChris (KKC) and to those long-forgotten, coppa-dropping settlers!
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Posts: 188
NY
Detector used: MINELAB X-Terra 50 & WHITE'S MXT
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Reply To This Topic #76 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 07:52:31 AM |
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Homey, dude, man! (For you In Living Color fans ;) ) Killer find What an unusual coin! Congrats and HH, Nickel_B |
Coins Recovered Since 6/9/07...
1-NJ Copper
4-Large Cents
1-One Skilling Banco (Swedish)
1-Seated Dime
2-Barber Dimes
4-Mercs
6-Rosies
1-V Nickel
3-Buffalo's
2-War Nickel
3-Silver G-Dub-Ya's
4-Indian Heads
38-Wheats
164-Q
187-D
69-N
290-P
Total=780
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Washington and Oregon
Detector used: Garret Ace250/Prospecter Bounty hunter(Backup)
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Reply To This Topic #77 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 07:57:18 AM |
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DUDE! That's one heck of coin! I dont imagine I will be finding one on the west coast anytime soon.
Keep up the great work.
Can't stop shakin' my head when looking at that coin....SWEET DIG!
~Nash~
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Whatever it is, it is valuable. If nothing else for the lesson learned or simply the experience of having been there.
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SE Louisiana
Detector used: Garrett Ace 250, Minelab X-Terra 70
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Reply To This Topic #78 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 08:35:13 AM |
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Man, that's a super duper find, Dude!! WTG, Kirk!! ;) RR |
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Reply To This Topic #79 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 08:41:37 AM |
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Now that's what I call metal detecting! Way to go!
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Reply To This Topic #80 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 08:43:12 AM |
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And your "dude" dialect cracks me up! hahaha. |
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Posts: 4084
Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #81 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 08:45:07 AM |
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And your "dude" dialect cracks me up! hahaha. The "Dude" language is going through some evolution now. Hopefully, it will pass through the generations of Tnet. hahaha  |
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PA
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Reply To This Topic #82 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 10:04:55 AM |
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During Kirkie's phone conversation with Paco yesterday, I counted 31 "dudes," which were peppered throughout the duration of the call. |
Those early PA settlers did too much and that is why coppas are found in abundance!
The Three Datectateers will miles to find the Colonial "stuff"!
KirkKyleChris (KKC) and to those long-forgotten, coppa-dropping settlers!
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Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #83 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 10:05:22 AM |
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This farm should yield at least 20 coppers when the four detect-o-teers are finally done with it! What he said. |
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Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #84 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 10:06:11 AM |
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During Kirkie's phone conversation with Paco yesterday, I counted 31 "dudes," which were peppered throughout the duration of the call. It is a form of language in PA, dudes! hehehe |
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Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #85 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 10:12:01 AM |
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Looks like one of those coins Zoyboy bought off E-Bay.
Come on, Unc, how could that be? Paco was there to watch me dig it! hehehe |
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Reply To This Topic #86 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 12:18:13 PM |
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KIRK! DUUUUUUDE! What a find! Dang! Many congrats! Dudette Nana |
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Posts: 7788
North Carolina
Detector used: Tesoro Silver Umax w/9x8 DD coil; Tesoro Silver Umax w/stock 8" coil, Vibra Probe 570
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Reply To This Topic #87 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 12:29:03 PM |
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Kirk, That thorough reply back from Don (and friend) was amazing. Now I can see why you waited for his reply. Congrats again on that find Big Guy. Fantastic. I think you owe Paco a few Corona's. Great hunt, great job. =MM- |
Oldest coin = 1700's Spanish silver piece of 8 reale
Oldest U.S. silver = 1833 Capped Bust Half Dime
Rarest coin = 1864 "L" *double die* IH
Civil War best finds:
*NC belt buckle
*CSN Confederate Navy Officer button
*Eagle Sword Belt Plate
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northwest tn.
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Reply To This Topic #88 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 12:38:37 PM |
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" dude" you guys have the cooliest finds, and love the gesture to the owner, and the post . keep em comin dude |
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Land of the Cheese Steak
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Reply To This Topic #89 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 12:48:20 PM |
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Congrats on an excellent find, Kirk!
And also on making the banner so quickly
Once again, a very entertaining post.
Thanks for sharing, Dude.
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Just as soon as I belong
Then it's time I disappear...
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Middleburg, Florida 32068
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Reply To This Topic #90 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 01:06:25 PM |
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Gotta throw my congratulations in here too. What a cool piece of history you've found there. Not to discount the other nice finds you've shared as well. Keep it up, there's gotta be a couple more nice old coins around that area.
JRich
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Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #91 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 01:09:13 PM |
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Congrats on an excellent find, Kirk!
And also on making the banner so quickly
Once again, a very entertaining post.
Thanks for sharing, Dude.
Thanks, Paul, I have such a passion for this hobby and love to show it in my posts. All of my family members call me, "obsessed," but can you blame me? hehehe I love uncovering the Colonial past. Paco and I have a great site to hit. I can't wait until he turns the field with his tractor. giggle HH! |
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Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio
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Reply To This Topic #92 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 02:14:08 PM |
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Bud
Nice old coppa. I wouldn't attemp cleaning as it has great detail as-is. I nearly destroyed the obverse on the only colonial I have found thus far while trying to bring out more detail.
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"The Beauvians are obviously reptilian"
Riley Martin
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Posts: 4084
Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #93 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 03:01:11 PM |
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Dan, I never clean my coins other than rubbing dirt off of them. I like the authentic look of some dirt along the edges. So far, we have recovered 5 Colonials out of this field and about 20 Colonial buttons. Also, we have only detected 2 fields out of about 10 on their property. The area where I found my Colonial is difficult to detect now. The corn is in your face and weeds are growing all over. Just to update the forum: Paco's MXT is coming soon. He sent his M6 to Mr. Howard to trade for an upgrade. He told me that he is in another one of his evolutionary phases. Even though, Paco, found numerous Colonials, other coppas, and wilver with his trusty M6, he wanted to purchase a better machine to aid in his treasure seeking and to gain an extra edge in the field. Whether it is knocking out mineralization, or punching an extra two inches into the ground, he is always exploring new avenues to perfect his treasure addiction. Once again, thanks, Paco, for the invite! You da man! |
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east northport ny
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Reply To This Topic #94 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 04:10:41 PM |
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i think we are going to hold you guys to the 20 coppers guarentee sounds like you dudes are up for the challenge good luck and again dude truly an excellent find
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Costa Mesa, California
Detector used: White's Eagle Spectrum XLT & Bullseye II Probe
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Reply To This Topic #95 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 05:28:16 PM |
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Dudes...
I really feel compelled to say...
What a knarly (spelling?) find dude! That's simply awesome.... da bomb! truly!
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2007 FIND COUNT
Sac Dollars = 1
Quarters = 269
Silver Wash=1
SLQ=1
Dimes = 397
Silver Rosie=3
Barber=2
Nickels = 140
Stinkin Lincoln = 1198
Wheat= 42
IH=1
Total Coins Found = 2056
Rings -16
HH from Mē
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Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #96 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 05:51:48 PM |
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Thanks, M-squared, at this moment, I have the coin in my hand and am glaring at it in awe. I feel the emotion through the history of this coin. It is a great feeling! Paco, Silver Zeus, zoyboy, and I all are looking forward to many more of these Colonial moments. |
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Central Illinois
Detector used: Whites Eagle II SL 90
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Reply To This Topic #97 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 06:02:46 PM |
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Are you gonna slab it Kirk? Nice piece o history! HH
Coinman66
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Colonial, PA
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Reply To This Topic #98 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 06:04:10 PM |
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Are you gonna slab it Kirk? Nice piece o history! HH
Coinman66
I don't think I am going to. What do you suggest? |
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Coin Hunter Posts: 878
Land Of Lincoln ~ USA
Detector used: Minelab E-Trac, Fisher F75, Tesoro Golden UMax, Whites 4900/D, Bounty Hunter IV, Bounty Hunter Big Bud
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Reply To This Topic #99 Posted Jul 30, 2007, 06:10:35 PM |
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Dude that is the real Macoy and what a find!!!!
Probably couldn't beat it, but I am gonna give it my best shot.
Sweetness all the way around.
Guess your pointer kinda led you in the right direction.
I enjoyed your story.
Happy Hunting and to more good finds!
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