Rare George Washington Halfpenny (Poll added)

Hey, dudes, Paco and I got out to the farm today. Before we even started detecting, we decided to present the kind landowners with a gift. We presented to them a $20 gift certificate to a local restaurant....our exact words, "Enjoy a dinner on us! Thank you for being so kind to allow us to relic hunt on your property." After a further cordial dialogue, Barb had to go to church, Carl needed to feed the oinkers, and we had to do some DETECTING! hehehe

At first, we decided to relic hunt the knoll where my Flying Eagle was recovered. We detected for about 45 minutes with nothing to show for, when I heard, Paco, yell, "Large copper! 1850 cent" In an athletic fashion, I sprinted to my good bud and shook hands with him in an excited fashion, "Good job, dude! You are even good with that junky Classic ID." After further "congratulations" on my part, we detected a little more with zero signals. I stated, "Dude, how about we explore more fields on there property!" So, we ventured our way, walking like a couple of baboons through a cow pasture. A few times during our pasture detecting, we had a few cows charging at us....each time one did, I sprinted, with my detector in hand, away from the furious animal (I think I was giggling, too). With my speed, these cows had no chance in hell to catch me alive. hehehe After about an hour of exploring, I stated, "Dude, these fields are unproductive...for some reason, my "thing" is pointing me to that field...I pointed to the Colonial coin cornfield" hehehe

So, we started to venture our way towards my car to take a break. On several occasions, we had to leap over electric fences...we made it look easy....I just took one step and jumped straight over it and rolled on the ground...thank god for my athletic abilities and my detecting abilities. hehehe On our break, I pointed to the Colonial field again and stated, "We are foos (fools) if we think dat area is devoid of coins!" Foos, I say!"

After the break, we visited the field...after an hour with no sigs, I started to detect my way towards the area where we found the Colonial coins. During that unproductive hour, I, literally, was cursing out loud...thank god the landowners were about two hundred yards away. hehehe Then, I was walking up a row, acting dejected, when I got a reading that brought me to attention. In my mind, I was thinking, "Hmmm...could it be? Hmmm...would it be? Hmmm...it better be, or I'm a quittin'!" Well, the target was giving me a jumpy, but decent copper reading...it pinpointed at 3", so I dug down and there was a large, green disc in the hole. I picked it up, rubbed some dirt off, and saw Mr. Washington's mug....I, literally, yelled, "Holy sh*t! BOO-YA" I knew how rare of a coin this was. I ran to, Paco, who was about a hundred yards away..."Dude, you are going make your pants smelly...check this dude out!" It is a 1793 George Washington Halfpenny. Our happy dance this time was...the jovial gibbons dance. hahaha

Our day ended after that. Once again, it was another memorable day on some historic property.

In the red book, it is stated to be worth $220 in Fine condition and $800 in XF....I am guessing mine is worth around $500...it is the best-shaped Colonial our entire group has dug. Zoy stated, "Find of the year, so far, in our group!" I love this hobby!

*All relics were found on private property with total consent from the landowners. 

AWESOME!!!! You guys are finding some great stuff at that site.WTG!! HH Alan

Not sure I understand the language, but what a great find!!  Great shape, and worth the cows chasing you!!

Not sure I understand the language, but what a great find!!  Great shape, and worth the cows chasing you!!

If you are around me enough, you will understand the "Dude" language. hehehe

Now that is a nice coin! Way to go, and don't do any cow tipping while you're out there.

WTg!! bud   AWSOME find!!!!!!  i love it!!!!!!!!!

Amazing find Kirk! Also a very nice gesture to buy the man`s dinner. I`d hit that place again for sure. WTG HH
Coinman66

DON'T CLEAN THAT COIN!!

Way to go DUDE!!

Another one for the Banner
WOW

I said that right didn't I??

Thanks, guys, for the replies. I am still floating on Cloud Nine! hahaha

Paco has one heck of a site! It keeps on producing!

     Amazing!  And the coin is interesting too.

Very nice token!

Is that the plain edge or lettered edge?

Oh, it is the Lettered edge.

Kirk,
Of course it's lettered on the edge.
The US didn't reed the edges of coins until 1836.

OD

Sweet, sweet, find. I don't know about the rest of that BS, but I love the coin.

You mean to say those fields aren't planted in corn or beans? All pasture?

I've got a field I can't wait to hunt when the crops come down. Just a couple hundred yards from an old fort. Hoping for some oldies.

HH
Ken

The area where I found the coin is planted with corn.  It is tough to do, but it is well worth it. ;)

Looks pretty to me > great find 

BOOOOO  YAAAAAA back to ya.  Congratulations on a great find.  Had to check the 2007 Redbook A Guide Book of US Coins, page 79

1793 Ship Halfpenny, Lettered Adge:

Fine $220
VF    $450
EF    $800
AU    $1300
UNC  $3000

PS:  There is a plain edge too.  (rare)  If yours was a plain edge, the sky's the limit on the price.........Rich

Holy crap Kirk... awesome freakin find!  You SHOULD be floating on cloud nine!  Great story and pics... 

[dealer]

Kirk,
Of course it's lettered on the edge.
The US didn't reed the edges of coins until 1836.

OD

Um..it isn't a US coin  ;)

Two versions of this Token was made. One plain edge and one that said:

"PAYABLE IN ANGLELSEY, LONDON, OR LIVERPOOL"

 1793 WASHINGTON PORTRAIT SHIP HALFPENNY LETTERED EDGE. the prices listed are a lot lower than in kirks redbook though. although they are supposed to be prices a  dealer might offer you. in the blue book it says $35 VG,$110 F,250VF,450EF,$700AU and $1650 UNC. way to go Kirk!!

I wrote this coin on my 2007 wish list, but it wasn't me who found it! hehehe  So, Kirkie Jerkie, you better hand it over or I will put you in the "cross-faced chicken wing" until you cough it up! hehe

Now you found a coin I would be happy to find

Nice work!

Nice Find and thanks for a great story!!!!!!!!!  I would have stunk my pants if i found that coin.

Thanks, dudes, I am glad you enjoyed my story. I now have 5 Colonials for the year. The year is still young, too!

Kirk,
You guy are "milking" that property for all it's worth. What a fantastic find! Congrats to you Mighty Whitey Dude!
Also, thanks for another funny post. I LMAO when I read the...."Dude, you are going to make your pants smelly"...  quote. Classic. 
Save some of those finds for Zoy too. We don't want to read about you been done in by a "crossed face chicken wing". 
Great job,
MM

Kirk,
You guy are "milking" that property for all it's worth. What a fantastic find! Congrats to you Mighty Whitey Dude!
Also, thanks for another funny post. I LMAO when I read the...."Dude, you are going to make your pants smelly"...  quote. Classic. 
Save some of those finds for Zoy too. We don't want to read about you been done in by a "crossed face chicken wing". 
Great job,
MM

Thanks, MM, I just love to bring our adventures to life. What you read, is what happened, seriously. This has to be the best hobby in the world...also, spending time with a good friend makes it even better. The memories will always be there! Thanks, bud, for the kind words.

Oh, the "crossed face chicken wing" hasn't happened yet. Maybe I should "cross face" his machine! hahaha

You guys crack me up! 
I bet it's a blast hunting with your group.
Great job,
MM

That's a beautiful find man.

I love them colonial sites. First one I have seen. Thank god it held up over the years. Every now and then you get lucky and the good one comes up in nice soil.

HH Jer

YO KIRK,
  THIS IS PACO, YOU SURE KNOW HOW TO SNIFF OUT THOSE COLONIALS............SO SWEET......CAN`T WAIT TO HIT AGAIN......

Most excellent!

YO KIRK,
  THIS IS PACO, YOU SURE KNOW HOW TO SNIFF OUT THOSE COLONIALS............SO SWEET......CAN`T WAIT TO HIT AGAIN......

Thanks, Paco, it is about time you showed your professional abilities on the forum. I, along with many others, welcome you here with open arms. Dude, if it wasn't for your great research, my coin would still be in the ground. You are great at sniffing out the Colonial sites, dude. We must hit it again!

You guys crack me up! 
I bet it's a blast hunting with your group.
Great job,
MM

That is what it is all about: Having Fun! If it ain't fun, I am done! hehehe

I hope you find some wilver in the future, bud. Out hunt, Ridley!

That's a beautiful find man.

I love them colonial sites. First one I have seen. Thank god it held up over the years. Every now and then you get lucky and the good one comes up in nice soil.

HH Jer

Not to sound haughty, but this is the 1st I have seen on here, too. Actually, I think "TimmyNY" found a 1795 at a foundation. But, other than that, I haven't seen any. They must not have been circulated as much, or the dudes didn't lose them often. It is about the size of a half dollar. I almost sh*t myself when the green disc popped out. Ahhhh, the sight of coppa! hahaha

Here is an interesting piece of information:
http://www.usmint.gov/kids/coinNews/coinOfTheMonth/2004/12.cfm

Bloody hell! hahaha

Very nice Kirk

 Congrats !

A "crossfaced chicken wing" will be carried out on your detector, which is sleeping in the closet at this moment!

In all seriousness, Kirkie Poo, this coin, in memories alone, paid for your detector.  One professional doyboy sweep...one professional doyboy pinpoint...one professional doyboy dig...and one professional doyboy non-deck of a semi-rare halfpenny!   Welcome to the banner, Jerkie!   You definitely deserve it, Poo!  

Brotherly love. Put him in the Saturday night special. On a Sunday!
Again nice find.
Coinman66

A "crossfaced chicken wing" will be carried out on your detector, which is sleeping in the closet at this moment!

In all seriousness, Kirkie Poo, this coin, in memories alone, paid for your detector.  One professional doyboy sweep...one professional doyboy pinpoint...one professional doyboy dig...and one professional doyboy non-deck of a semi-rare halfpenny!   Welcome to the banner, Jerkie!   You definitely deserve it, Poo!  

Zoy, hmmm....where is my detector at this very minute? She ain't in the closet! I am definitely worried for her safety! hehehe An uppercut will be presented to the housing of your tector tonight. That should do her in for the year! hehehe

I know my detector was paid for. Yes, I aim to be a professional. hehehe I take great pride in my proper form and pinpointing. I don't know nobody that don't think the same. Wow, a triple negative.

Welcome Paco I was begining to think Kirk had a imaginary friend, Great coin Kirk funny I was just reading about those,  Damn you made the Banner in less than 8 hrs, Way to Grow

That's one fine fine coin master Kirk!
Big time congrats to you my friend.
The history behind this coin is amazing, just thinking,
the War of Independance had just ended and our country
was just beginning. Freekin amazing man!!
WTG making the banner too dude!

Smiles!
BDoo

That's one fine fine coin master Kirk!
Big time congrats to you my friend.
The history behind this coin is amazing, just thinking,
the War of Independance had just ended and our country
was just beginning. Freekin amazing man!!
WTG making the banner too dude!

Smiles!
BDoo

Thanks, Bdoo, my goal this year was to make it up there. The history behind that coin is amazing. It was minted in England...indubitably, kind sir. hahaha

Wow!  Let me get this straight.  I looked it up in the 2008 Red Book.  It's a U.S. coin that was minted in England??

I wonder if I'll ever find even a Large Cent.  My state is too young..

Congrats to you and your partners.  Outstanding coin.

Outstanding!  In great condition too!  A real highlight to an md portfolio!

[A wise old owl lived in an oakThe more he saw the less he spokeThe less he spoke the more he heard.Why can't we all be like that wise old bird?]

Wow you got up in the thumbnails pretty quick with this one ! Congrats !

I am still waiting until, Don in SJ, responds. He really know his Colonials, so he may be able to estimate the value.

Seriously, dudes, how much do you think it would sell for?

Welcome Paco I was begining to think Kirk had a imaginary friend, Great coin Kirk funny I was just reading about those,  Damn you made the Banner in less than 8 hrs, Way to Grow

I know the feeling...

Dude...dude dude...DUDE dudes dudey dude like dude...Holy DUDE....DuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuDe

[You Da Man!! A picture of the area with a street sign would be nice.]

You Da Man!!  A picture of the area with a street sign would be nice.

I think George Washington's middle name was Dude.....GREAT FIND.!!

Great find!!

WTG!

The colonial dude that dropped it would probably state that he'd be proud of the master coin hunting future dude that found it!

George Washington would probably be amused too!

Here's a virtual happy congratulatory type hand shake! Looks like the coin made the banner already!

Great job! Dude!



Ridley

Awesome find! I wish we had stuff that old here.

The colonial dude that dropped it would probably state that he'd be proud of the master coin hunting future dude that found it!

George Washington would probably be amused too!

Here's a virtual happy congratulatory type hand shake! Looks like the coin made the banner already!

Great job! Dude!



Ridley

Thanks to my awesome detecting skills....hahaha....it was all luck! I hope to find some old wilver there next!

Nice Banner find kirk!  Awesome!

Nice Banner find kirk!  Awesome!

Congrats yourself for being up there!

THAT'S A FIND TO BE REAL PROUD OF! EXCELLENT DIG! WTG! TO PUT A NEW TWIST ON AN OLD PHRASE - ONCE YOU GO COLONIAL YOU NEVER GO BACK!

Dude Kirk ! All I can say is , you are the MAN dude ! Congrats ! Hoss

Super finds!  Hammer the heck out of that place.  What an awesome coin!

WTG!!!  Nice coin Dude!  I would send in off to be graded.  If not for the value, but the protection of this find.  It will come back with a net grade because it is a dug coin, however it is a very, very, very nice find!

WTG

Very nice find. Congrtulations on you find and having it posted in  front row ( Thumb Nail Gallery) aka " RECENT TREASURES FOUND BY OUR MEMBERS"

One of my hopes is to find something that is deemed worthy enough to be put in the front row. 

Until, then, HH.

Ray S.

Nice Digs!!

man.. your postings crack me up... it's like.. "Bills and Ted's Excellent Metal Detecting"  That was a good idea with the gift certificate... the best I ever did.. was stop to ask permission and ended up helping the land owners herd in a couple hundred head that were in the wrong field. The guy was really.. angry.. seems one of his helpers had left the wrong gate open the night before and the herd went into a field full of crops. After we got them in, he was still pretty mad.. so I was just going to leave and come back.. when he said.. "..and what did you need feller?" Turned out to be one of the best places I ever dug.. and he and his wife never gave anyone else permission but me!! I actually had another guy, after trying to get permission, stop along the road and yell at me!! He was pis.. er.. angry.. that that would not give him permission when I was out digging! It's all about the karma...

MonkeyBoy

Kirkie, I agree that this should be slabbed.

      sweeeeeeet dig dude !!   

Looks like one of those coins Zoyboy bought off E-Bay.

Outstanding

Looks like one of those coins Zoyboy bought off E-Bay.

It is nice, ain't it, unc?

I am still waiting until, Don in SJ, responds. He really know his Colonials, so he may be able to estimate the value.

Seriously, dudes, how much do you think it would sell for?

Very Nice find Kirk, I will send you a PM today

Don

I am still waiting until, Don in SJ, responds. He really know his Colonials, so he may be able to estimate the value.

Seriously, dudes, how much do you think it would sell for?

Very Nice find Kirk, I will send you a PM today

Don

Sounds good, Don. I am curious to hear what you have to say about it. I am still floating on the Ninth cloud now. hahaha

I have seen most sold in auctions listed as 1793/2 for the date,  but only a few have the 2 still visible, the rest like yours do not, but it would still be considered an overdate since all of that type was made from a recut 1792 die.

Here are some excerpts from the Notre Dame website on Washington Tokens

It was the Ship Halfpenny of 1793 (Baker 18, Fuld, WA.1793/2.1) that gave the Hancock obverse portrait of Washington its widest circulation.

 

The date was originally cut into the die as 1792 but was changed to 1793 before being used. Apparently the dies clashed early in use. The resulted in a buckeling of the dies, evident as a bulge on the coin between 3:00 and 5:00 o'clock on the obverse. Only five extant examples are reported that are in perfect condition without the bulge. Breen states the overdate can only be seen on these five examples as it is not apparent on examples from after the die clash.

I will send you some information I gathered last night on value and let you decipher it.

Don

I have seen most sold in auctions listed as 1793/2 for the date,  but only a few have the 2 still visible, the rest like yours do not, but it would still be considered an overdate since all of that type was made from a recut 1792 die.

Here are some excerpts from the Notre Dame website on Washington Tokens

It was the Ship Halfpenny of 1793 (Baker 18, Fuld, WA.1793/2.1) that gave the Hancock obverse portrait of Washington its widest circulation.

 

The date was originally cut into the die as 1792 but was changed to 1793 before being used. Apparently the dies clashed early in use. The resulted in a buckeling of the dies, evident as a bulge on the coin between 3:00 and 5:00 o'clock on the obverse. Only five extant examples are reported that are in perfect condition without the bulge. Breen states the overdate can only be seen on these five examples as it is not apparent on examples from after the die clash.

I will send you some information I gathered last night on value and let you decipher it.

Don

Thanks, Don, for the help. I appreciate it, bud.

damn kirk that is awesome    you guys are digging some great stuff   congrats and hh

damn kirk that is awesome    you guys are digging some great stuff   congrats and hh

We are digging some great stuff, thanks to the kind landowners!

Dudes, I will take some pics of the lettered edge tonight. There are some nice details!

Dudes, I will take some pics of the lettered edge tonight. There are some nice details!

I have two ways of photographing lettered edges, the easiest was taking about 4 or 5 of them as you go around and stitch together either with a stiching program or Irfanview.  The other method is tougher, that is using a mag light reflector and shoot a photo of the coin and the edges at the same time, but I believe the lettering than comes out in reverse, not sure, have to check my archives.

Here is the lettered edge photos on my rare variety 1794 Large Cent.

Don

Super Excelletnt Washington coin bud...

Keep diggin'...

I think the wet soil helped make this coin more evident. It was in an area we all hit before, but the soil was too dry.

Dudes, here is some info I got from, Don in SJ. Thanks again, bud, for the help. It is some great information on my coin.

Kirk, very nice find for sure, have not seen but maybe one or two others found posted on any of the forums over the many years I have been watching, However, I was not sure of how common or rare they are, evidently they are not too common.  There are at least around 60 known by PCGS, which makes the coin a R5 and maybe R4.  I will show the Rarity Scale below.  With that said, I looked through my catalogs and found two sold somwhat recently by the C4 auction, which is held each fall in Boston and they are not ground found, and as you can judge for youself to compare with yours,  Unfortuntely we get penalized heavily for the corrosion, unless they are in competive demand.  I sent the photos to a freind who is a Colonial collector and some Federal area coins and this was his response:

Don,
    This is so cool - finding a Washington Ship Halfpenny!!!  I have one.  Actually I'm giving a talk (two talks) at the Ocean County Coin Club this Thursday night about Washingtonia!  I don't know if NCS would do anything with a metal detecting find.  If this were my find, I'd probably send it to you and ask if you would do your Hydrogen Peroxide treatment.  I'd settle for whatever the results were.  People that collect Washington coins and medals are looking for quality and surfaces.  I don't think that he'll increase the value of the coin much by attempting to clean it.


http://home.comcast.net/~slospokes2/C4_Nov_2004.jpg             SOLD For   $275, VF20 No Corrosion

http://home.comcast.net/~slospokes2/C4_Nov_2005.jpg             SOLD For   $325 VF30 No Corrosion


http://www.stacks.com/lotdetail.aspx?lrid=AN00060421              SOLD For  $1035 EF45  No Corrsoion and in Superb condition


1793 Washington Ship Halfpenny VF 30 First Token. Baker-18. Weight: 10.33 grams. Even brown color with pleasing surfaces and no noticeable marks.
                                                                                             SOLD For   $286  in 1996
                                                                                              NO PHOTO AVAILABLE - HERITAGE AUCTIONS

So, my opinion, a good find, a special coin to keep and have great braggin rights on, but for being very valuable, nada.  My guess, and it is only a guess and I would not post this, is maybe $200 but also maybe only $50-75.....  Of course on e-bay, funny things can happen and it could go for more.  Right now on e-bay is a slabbed one that is one of the best known, no bids yet. 
Item number: 170133006998


When I said the number approx 60 known by PCGS, that does not mean there are only 60, I believe that means there have been X amount graded, other examples are most likely known.
OK  here is a Rarity Scale that is somewhat considered a standard, although there is a "Univieral rarity scale" developed in 1998, but I have not seen those numbers used!  But this seems to be used alot by collectors.

R8+    1 KNOWN
R8      2 KNOWN                                            R8 - Unique or Nearly So
R8-     3 KNOWN
R7+    4-6 KNOWN
R7      7-9 KNOWN                                         R7 - Extremely Rare
R7-     10-12 KNOWN                                     
R6+    13-18 KNOWN
R6      19-24 KNOWN                                     R6 - Very Rare
R6-     25-30 KNOWN
R5+    31-45   ESTIMATED
R5      46-60   ESTIMATED                             R5 - Rare
R5-     61-75   ESTIMATED       
R4     76-200   ESTIMATED                            R4 - Very Scarce
R3     201-600 ESTIMATED                            R3 - Scarce
R2     601-2000 ESTIMATED                          R2 - Common
R1     OVER 2000 ESTIMATED                      R1 - Very Common

REFERENCE:  William C. Noyes, author of United States Large Cents books.

I would save this for background knowledge


I almost posted this, except I would have left out my value opinion, it is a very judgemental thing, also not sure how to grade your coin, again, since photos are hard to see sometimes all the details or damage, so I will pass on that and just stay with my rough guess opinion on value. Even the photos on the C4 auction pages are rather hard to determine detail, but the one that sold for over a grand on STACKS site, WOW, what a pretty coin and great color photo!!

Don

PS  Rarity does not always equate into value,  example would be the 1916D Mercury Dime, heck they minted 264,000 of them, that makes them Very Common, but there are so many collectors out there that the demand for that coin is great and thus they are valuable.
Value has all to do with supply and demand in coins.

This farm should yield at least 20 coppers when the four detect-o-teers are finally done with it!

Homey, dude, man!
(For you In Living Color fans ;) )

Killer find

What an unusual coin!

Congrats and HH,

Nickel_B

DUDE! That's one heck of coin! I dont imagine I will be finding one on the west coast anytime soon.
Keep up the great work.
Can't stop shakin' my head when looking at that coin....SWEET DIG!

~Nash~

Man, that's a super duper find, Dude!!    WTG, Kirk!!

 ;) RR

Now that's what I call metal detecting! Way to go!

And your "dude" dialect cracks me up! hahaha. 

And your "dude" dialect cracks me up! hahaha. 

The "Dude" language is going through some evolution now. Hopefully, it will pass through the generations of Tnet. hahaha

During Kirkie's phone conversation with Paco yesterday, I counted 31 "dudes," which were peppered throughout the duration of the call.

This farm should yield at least 20 coppers when the four detect-o-teers are finally done with it!

What he said.

During Kirkie's phone conversation with Paco yesterday, I counted 31 "dudes," which were peppered throughout the duration of the call.

It is a form of language in PA, dudes! hehehe

Looks like one of those coins Zoyboy bought off E-Bay.

Come on, Unc, how could that be? Paco was there to watch me dig it! hehehe

[DUUUUUUDE!]

KIRK!  DUUUUUUDE! What a find! Dang! 

              Many congrats!

                     Dudette Nana 

Kirk,
That thorough reply back from Don (and friend) was amazing. Now I can see why you waited for his reply. 
Congrats again on that find Big Guy. Fantastic. I think you owe Paco a few Corona's. 
Great hunt, great job.
=MM-

" dude" you guys have the cooliest finds, and love the gesture to the owner, and the post . keep em comin dude 

Congrats on an excellent find, Kirk!

And also on making the banner so quickly

Once again, a very entertaining post.

Thanks for sharing, Dude.

Gotta throw my congratulations in here too.  What a cool piece of history you've found there.  Not to discount the other nice finds you've shared as well.  Keep it up, there's gotta be a couple more nice old coins around that area.

JRich

Congrats on an excellent find, Kirk!

And also on making the banner so quickly

Once again, a very entertaining post.

Thanks for sharing, Dude.

Thanks, Paul, I have such a passion for this hobby and love to show it in my posts. All of my family members call me, "obsessed," but can you blame me? hehehe

I love uncovering the Colonial past. Paco and I have a great site to hit. I can't wait until he turns the field with his tractor. giggle

HH!

Bud



Nice old coppa. I wouldn't attemp cleaning as it has great detail as-is. I nearly destroyed the obverse on the only colonial I have found thus far while trying to bring out more detail.

Dan, I never clean my coins other than rubbing dirt off of them. I like the authentic look of some dirt along the edges.

So far, we have recovered 5 Colonials out of this field and about 20 Colonial buttons. Also, we have only detected 2 fields out of about 10 on their property.

The area where I found my Colonial is difficult to detect now. The corn is in your face and weeds are growing all over.

Just to update the forum: Paco's MXT is coming soon. He sent his M6 to Mr. Howard to trade for an upgrade. He told me that he is in another one of his evolutionary phases. Even though, Paco, found numerous Colonials, other coppas, and wilver with his trusty M6, he wanted to purchase a better machine to aid in his treasure seeking and to gain an extra edge in the field. Whether it is knocking out mineralization, or punching an extra two inches into the ground, he is always exploring new avenues to perfect his treasure addiction.

Once again, thanks, Paco, for the invite! You da man!

i think we are going to hold you guys to the 20 coppers guarentee    sounds like you dudes are up for the challenge  good luck and again dude truly an excellent find

Dudes...



I really feel compelled to say...


What a knarly (spelling?) find dude! That's simply awesome.... da bomb! truly!


HH from M²

Thanks, M-squared, at this moment, I have the coin in my hand and am glaring at it in awe. I feel the emotion through the history of this coin. It is a great feeling!

Paco, Silver Zeus, zoyboy, and I all are looking forward to many more of these Colonial moments.

Are you gonna slab it Kirk? Nice piece o history! HH
Coinman66

Are you gonna slab it Kirk? Nice piece o history! HH
Coinman66

I don't think I am going to. What do you suggest?

Dude that is the real Macoy and what a find!!!!

Probably couldn't beat it, but I am gonna give it my best shot.

Sweetness all the way around.

Guess your pointer kinda led you in the right direction.

I enjoyed your story.

Happy Hunting and to more good finds!

Just admire it, dont rub the date off it. LOL
You couldnt send it to PCGS they would say enviromental damage. Maybe ANACS would give it a detail grade. I would just leave it as is and enjoy. Oh yeah, dont put in your bicycle spokes either like i did my Nolan Ryan rookie. DOAAAF in a Homer Simpson like voice. HH
Coinman66

Back for another look at your little beauty bro,
still drooling over it. Such a cool find!

Hope it's the start of a colonostreak for ya!

Smiles!
BDoo

Back for another look at your little beauty bro,
still drooling over it. Such a cool find!

Hope it's the start of a colonostreak for ya!

Smiles!
BDoo

I'm still drooling over it...hahaha. So far, I have 5 Colonials for the year. My goal was 4, so I passed it.

I hope I am on a streak. But, I would like to see Paco get the next one. It would be cool.

Back for another look at your little beauty bro,
still drooling over it. Such a cool find!

Hope it's the start of a colonostreak for ya!

Smiles!
BDoo

I'm still drooling over it...hahaha. So far, I have 5 Colonials for the year. My goal was 4, so I passed it.

I hope I am on a streak. But, I would like to see Paco get the next one. It would be cool.

You have such a great attitude... dude. Very refreshing!

Here's to Paco colonialising soon.
Think "domination" Paco!! Good luck.

I have already passed last years coin total and face value total so I have nuttin to complain about. Just love getting out and swinging!

Good luck bro K

Smiles!
BDoo

very nice find Kirk! that's a good spot! Great condition too!

I could slab it for you, Kirkie!  My slab method on the halfpenny: two pieces of wheat bread with light mayo, one onion, one tomato, one 1793 George Washington halfpenny, and one heck of an appetite.   

I could slab it for you, Kirkie!  My slab method on the halfpenny: two pieces of wheat bread with light mayo, one onion, one tomato, one 1793 George Washington halfpenny, and one heck of an appetite.   

I could slab it...my fist across your detector.

I might have a 1793 George Washington halfpenny slab sandwich for dinner tonight!  

I might have a 1793 George Washington halfpenny slab sandwich for dinner tonight!  

You should have an envious sanmich

I'm going to give your detector a knuckle sandwich!

I'm going to give your detector a knuckle sandwich!

Then, I will have to punt your detector out into the street.

I'm going to give your detector a knuckle sandwich!

Then, I will have to punt your detector out into the street.

You 2 should get a room...This flirting has gone on long enough...

I say it again: the best hobby ever!

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What I find interesting is that we never had a ship on our coinage until 1937, see a similar one above.  Funny enough it was called a Ship halfpenny, wonder if there is a link??

Updated:

Having just read about it, the ship was modelled on a British Token.  These were toterated illegal coinage but not offical.  So the first time a ship was used on offical coinage was 1937.

The real Irony about that Half Penny was that the USA in it's attempt to completely seperate from england didn't want to use the same monitary system. They abandoned the Pennyand went for something a little easier to use. Our dollar is divided into 100 parts called cents, The One Cent is the coin that America has used from the beginning as it's standard of currency,
We don't make pennies, I hope we never do.

The real Irony about that Half Penny was that the USA in it's attempt to completely seperate from england didn't want to use the same monitary system. They abandoned the Pennyand went for something a little easier to use. Our dollar is divided into 100 parts called cents, The One Cent is the coin that America has used from the beginning as it's standard of currency,
We don't make pennies, I hope we never do.

Effectively since 1967 when we went decimal we have Cents as well, we just call them Pennies.  Before 1967 there was 12 Pence to the Shilling.  20 Shilling in a pound, therefore 240 Pennies to the Pound.
Now we have 100 Pence to the Pound (Cent??)

Thinking about it now, I own an awesome piece of American history.

Thinking about it now, I own an awesome piece of American history.

Yeap, but you can do better ;)  Keep digging.

I hope I can do better. I have a feeling one of us, in my group, will find a Draped wilver.

All can say is "Dude" that is one nice coin and where are you guys from in Pa? I grew up in Pittsburgh and just moved to Fredericksburg Va last year.
I should be posting the new finds from Va. soon but having resizing issues new to this part of the hobby. Found many many great things in Pa but nothing like that coin!!!
Rebel Man Va

All can say is "Dude" that is one nice coin and where are you guys from in Pa? I grew up in Pittsburgh and just moved to Fredericksburg Va last year.
I should be posting the new finds from Va. soon but having resizing issues new to this part of the hobby. Found many many great things in Pa but nothing like that coin!!!
Rebel Man Va

I am just very blessed to live in a county full of history. I live in Central PA. I know for sure, I will top this find...one of these days. I will not give up now! hehehe

Now, when my family members call me, "Obsessed," I will say, "Get a REAL hobby!" hahahaHAHA ;)

Now, when my family members call me, "Obsessed," I will say, "Get a REAL hobby!" hahahaHAHA

haha. I like the way you think. Besides, it's just so much fun!

Now, when my family members call me, "Obsessed," I will say, "Get a REAL hobby!" hahahaHAHA

haha. I like the way you think. Besides, it's just so much fun!

I just think a lot of our family members are jealous of our passion (Zoy + Me). Life is too short to worry on trivial pursuits, dudes. Without a hobby, life is super boring.

Ask Paco, he will tell you how "excitable" I get....hahaha...even over the small things. I have to stay away from cotton candy...I act like a child....I get too giddy. hehehe

total respect to da boys in group x91 far out finds big shout for the permisson crack look forward to more of your chop chomping on the finds front massive respect dudes.

In other words well done to all the chaps in your group you all did a tremedous job both in terms of finds and seeking permission. We look forward to hearing more

total respect to da boys in group x91 far out finds big shout for the permisson crack look forward to more of your chop chomping on the finds front massive respect dudes.

In other words well done to all the chaps in your group you all did a tremedous job both in terms of finds and seeking permission. We look forward to hearing more

total respect to da boys in group x91 far out finds big shout for the permisson crack look forward to more of your chop chomping on the finds front massive respect dudes.

Word...

Amen to that!

We must keep the fever high...tell Silver Zeus that!

  Awsome Find. Way to go

Paco and I may get back out to the site. It is hit pretty damn hard, but I know there are some Colonials still there.

I wish the kind farmer would cut his crops and till the field. hahaha

I am starting to think something more than a Colonial homestead was on this field. We found 5 Colonials and I know there has to be at least a few more.

But didn't you say you guys still have 8 of the 10 or so fields to hunt yet? GREAT coin by the way. Yes, hopefully someone finds a Draped wilver or something at the site. That would be awesome.

Dudes, here is what some other dude sent to my email:

Hi kirk!
    This is a magnificent find!!! Although struck in England, these are
actively collected by those interested in Washingtonia.  Because of the
corrosion, I don't know that you could get $100 for it.  Even if you
attempted to clean it, collectors shy away from cleaned coins and this one
would need harsh cleaning.  It's very important in that it was found.  Were
other contemporaneous coins found at the site?  It could help place the time
it was lost.  I'd like to forward your email to a friend - Phil Mossman, who
keeps records of finds like this.  I've never heard of one of these being
found by a detectorist - congratulations!!!

Paco and I may get back out to the site. It is hit pretty damn hard, but I know there are some Colonials still there.

I wish the kind farmer would cut his crops and till the field. hahaha

I am starting to think something more than a Colonial homestead was on this field. We found 5 Colonials and I know there has to be at least a few more.

It is hard to say what exactly could have been there..From the research I have done when we found our colonial field....20 acre field along the Kinderhook creek... We found over 200 coins in this field. These coins became virtually worthless over night when the US made their own coins...SO....they were tossed away...Perhaps the homesite that was there was one of a wealthy person who had an abundance of Colonials?? I guess without going back in time you will never know...Just keep digging and finding what is there...I remember when we found our field o coppa.... It was freshly tilled and we were finding them on the surface. Ahh...The memories!!! Oh BTW it paid to be young at that time...I could out run all the old guys to the coins!!! hehe


Good Luck!!!

Excellent Findings!!!!!! Congrats!!! 

The best part was paco posting!

Paco and I may get back out to the site. It is hit pretty damn hard, but I know there are some Colonials still there.

I wish the kind farmer would cut his crops and till the field. hahaha

I am starting to think something more than a Colonial homestead was on this field. We found 5 Colonials and I know there has to be at least a few more.

It is hard to say what exactly could have been there..From the research I have done when we found our colonial field....20 acre field along the Kinderhook creek... We found over 200 coins in this field. These coins became virtually worthless over night when the US made their own coins...SO....they were tossed away...Perhaps the homesite that was there was one of a wealthy person who had an abundance of Colonials?? I guess without going back in time you will never know...Just keep digging and finding what is there...I remember when we found our field o coppa.... It was freshly tilled and we were finding them on the surface. Ahh...The memories!!! Oh BTW it paid to be young at that time...I could out run all the old guys to the coins!!! hehe


Good Luck!!!

I find it hard to believe that someone would throw coins. I have heard that dudes were carrying Colonials even in the 1800s. You may have come across a tavern or something of high caliber.

Are you gonna slab it Kirk? Nice piece o history! HH
Coinman66

I don't think I am going to. What do you suggest?

i wonder if it would be worth it to send it to a coin conservator to have it professionally cleaned? it may come out looking like a million bucks!

It's great to see people recover these coins.  Your coin looks like it held up well for the age.  Very nice.  Congratulations are in order.

It's great to see people recover these coins.  Your coin looks like it held up well for the age.  Very nice.  Congratulations are in order.

Thanks, bud, I appreciate your interest in my coppa. Send my regards to the Berg gang.

I was one of the dudes who chose "none" on the poll!

I was one of the dudes who chose "none" on the poll!

I knew you would be one of the jealous dudes to pick that option.

very nice who knows you might fimd very old wilver there --- Ivan

wow!!!!!!!!!! what a coin. what a hobby. go find and share more like it.  gf2 in tx

[Incredible find Kirk!]

Incredible find Kirk! .  Reading all you guys, seeing all the coins I only dream about has been the highlight of my life since my attorney, ex-spousal unit, her attorney, guardian ad litem and judge all got together to take my kids & retirement account & all else of value four years ago.  They somehow missed my two detectors and coin collection.  The coins and baseball card collection dating from 1899-current are all my 10 year olds will inherit when I move on to (hopefully) better hunting.  Never underestimate how much your chatter (all of it) might raise the spirits of an old guy whose best find this year is a washington .... clad quarter, 1997. 

Thru four months of research, I've located the site of a colonial-era fort here in GA. When the temps drop below 100, I plan to start at one corner of the site and work til I drop.  If I find anything even half as nice as the 1793, I'll be sittin with you on cloud 9. If not.... what've I lost?

Keep up the good work, keep sharing your finds.  Some of us can only enjoy TH'ing thru your finds.

That coin would make my year, rockin find bro!!!

what a find wow 

Wanted to let you know I have the 2008 red book and for your 1793 Ship Half Penny Lettered Edge these are the prices
F-$220.00, VF-$450.00, EF-650.00, AU-$1,500.00, UNC. $3,500.00

 Mike

High Fives !  Thats one beautiful coin.That site rocks ....keep poundin' it hard.God Bless and HH..Panz

Since two other OLD posts have been brought back up top, I decided to give recognition again to a SPECTACULAR coppa found in Central PA!   It is a coppa found by my bro, Colonial KirkPA!

Snicket

 

With all of the beautiful,  valueable coppers being found lately,  why not.   This was a stellar copper recovery.  Now go out and find us another one datectateers.

WOW That GW Half Penny is too cool

  Nice Condor Token. 

Darn nice half cent!  Looks like it is in really good shape.  So many of them yu can bareliy make out what they are. 

My worse antic was when  I was hunting a tot lot in the sand.  I have trouble getting up and down anyway because of an old injury to my back, but...As I was struggling to get up, my feet slipped in the sand and I did a complete back flip right in front of God and two little kids.  After checking and finding nothing broken I was limping off when one of the kids ran up to me and said,"  Could you do that again?  Billy wasn't looking and didn't get to see it"!  I stopped myself just before I stabbed him in the heart with my digging tool!  Monty

BEAUTIFUL...BEAUTIFUL...BEAUTIFUL!!!!!   That sweet historic coin is is such nice condition!!   

Larry

very nice find kirk  i live a little south of u lots of old places to hunt  may u find more

Hey Kirk, even I have to admit you have an awesome find!  It is a beauty and possibly the find of the year.  I still think you should join the military and fight against the Barack Hussein Obamas.  You would be a great leader however, you just do not know your potential.  HH, Mike

Congrats on an excellent find, Kirk!

And also on making the banner so quickly

Once again, a very entertaining post.

Thanks for sharing, Dude.

Thanks, Paul, I have such a passion for this hobby and love to show it in my posts. All of my family members call me, "obsessed," but can you blame me? hehehe

I love uncovering the Colonial past. Paco and I have a great site to hit. I can't wait until he turns the field with his tractor. giggle

HH!

_{Kirk,awesome job man!! My family also calls me obsessed My teenage daughter has labled me as having "OMDD" for obsessive metal detecting disorder..I can live with it HH,Jerry}

Kirk..You DA MAN. Letme know if you need a green horn from Wisconsin to come over and pick up some of your slack! I'd LOVE to find a coin like that! With the junk I find, posts like yours are the only thing that keep me (and my wifey who always wonders if I'd wasted monery on a detector) with a positive attitude! Great job. I always look forward to posts of your new finds!

Very cool dude! That is one of the coolest coins I have seen found on this forum! Congratulations! This should go into the best finds of treasurenet section!